Welp…
Hate to be a pisser, but there are reports of all sorts of “middle eastern men” furtively coming and going from the house at night for some time. The neighbor didn’t want to be called racist, so he didn’t say anything.
The rifles were modified, with some expertise, to bypass CA mag rules.
The bombs were well made with classic bathtub explosives favored by ISIS.
He was a a devout Muslim and often contacted known radicals.
In short, this was terrorism.
What is the pisser is this: they almost certainly had help and instruction.
This leads me to believe there is a larger network out there, and Seyyid just happened to get pissed, pull a Leeroy Jenkens*, and went off too early.
More is undoubtedly planned at shopping centers and places of work throughout the USA.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Hate to be a pisser, but there are reports of all sorts of “middle eastern men” furtively coming and going from the house at night for some time. The neighbor didn’t want to be called racist, so he didn’t say anything.
The rifles were modified, with some expertise, to bypass CA mag rules.
The bombs were well made with classic bathtub explosives favored by ISIS.
He was a a devout Muslim and often contacted known radicals.
In short, this was terrorism.
What is the pisser is this: they almost certainly had help and instruction.
This leads me to believe there is a larger network out there, and Seyyid just happened to get pissed, pull a Leeroy Jenkens*, and went off too early.
More is undoubtedly planned at shopping centers and places of work throughout the USA.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins[/quote]
While it’s entirely possible (and arguably, likely), the FBI hasn’t determined whether the attack was an act of terrorism. “[A senior law enforcement official] said the FBI has yet to find definitive evidence that the couple had been radicalized or were looking at jihadist websites or reading terrorist literature such as Inspire magazine.” To assume ISIL is directly or tangentially responsible (outside of inspiration) is also a step at the current stage of the investigation. It wouldn’t be surprising, however, to learn that the couple was inspired by ISIL.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...omepage%2Fstory
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.[/quote]
Maybe. My sincere wish is for you to be correct.
But wishes are like assholes. We all have them.
I’ve lived through two rounds of terrorism. This is how it starts.
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
^ That is astonishing.
I actually think there is going to be a small, but noticiable bask lash to the PC, head-in-the sand approach to radical Islam. Mainstream media and sensible democrats included.
It’s funny, Obummer does not jump to conclusions on motive, but he sure does on enacting legislation! Lol[/quote]
Oh he jumped to conclusions really fast. He blamed republicans and demand we enact tougher gun laws, because obviously this attack would have been prevented if we had tougher gun laws. Clearly they would have just given up. I have never seen a president so detached from reality. I really hope he’s just Crack addict and that’s his excuse for his dangerous stupidity.
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
^ That is astonishing.
I actually think there is going to be a small, but noticiable bask lash to the PC, head-in-the sand approach to radical Islam. Mainstream media and sensible democrats included.
It’s funny, Obummer does not jump to conclusions on motive, but he sure does on enacting legislation! Lol[/quote]
Don’t worry.
In a little more than a year, President Trump will jump to any conclusion you want him to…and will “tell-it-like-it-is”.
Mufasa
Dear FBI/CIA/homeland security,
Instead of monitoring what I’m saying and doing on the internet and where I’m traveling maybe you should have been monitoring that guy that killed everyone yesterday. Just sayin’.
Signed,
Your average middle class American.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.[/quote]
Maybe. My sincere wish is for you to be correct.
But wishes are like assholes. We all have them.
I’ve lived through two rounds of terrorism. This is how it starts.[/quote]
Well the more information we get the more it looks like it was just a plain old fashion terrorist attack. Of course The president is refusing to admit this and will continue to not admit it, because he really does not want it to be so. He’s saying the terrorists were operating under ‘mixed motives’. As long as he can avoid calling it terrorism, he can blame the Gun Lobby and Republicans, who are his real enemy. He will also face criticism for making climate change a higher priority that fighting the people who want to kill Americans.
I think obama needs to resign, he’s clearly to stupid and weak to do this job.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Dear FBI/CIA/homeland security,
Instead of monitoring what I’m saying and doing on the internet and where I’m traveling maybe you should have been monitoring that guy that killed everyone yesterday. Just sayin’.
Signed,
Your average middle class American. [/quote]
There’s a lot of dubiety regarding what good that would do. Hindsight is always 20/20, but law enforcement has told me they’ve been urged to take greater steps to avoid racial profiling too, for reasons that are obvious.
From this article: Authorities Search Redlands Home Tied To Suspect Syed Farook - CBS Los Angeles
“A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people. â??We sat around lunch thinking, â??What were they doing around the neighborhood?'â?? he said. â??Weâ??d see them leave where theyâ??re raiding the apartment.â??”
Okay, but if the average Joe phones the authorities and tells them a half dozen Middle Eastern men have been coming and going from an apartment in recent weeks, what’s going to happen? Are the police even going to investigate, and, if so, how much can they really do other than cursory background checks? That may or may not have prevented the attack. Those are rhetorical questions, but it’s a valid “what if” scenario.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.[/quote]
Maybe. My sincere wish is for you to be correct.
But wishes are like assholes. We all have them.
I’ve lived through two rounds of terrorism. This is how it starts.[/quote]
The Saudis have been throwing billions of dollars on imams and mosques in Chechnya and Bosnia, as well as towards their respective expat communities in the US.
The reason being that Bosnian Muslims, with their Slavic origins and pale complexion can easily pass off as Eastern or Northern Europeans - many of them are blonde and blue eyed, for example.
The same thing with Chechens, whose ethnic mixture means they can visually blend in different environments, from European to Hispanic.
Which means that there won’t be any “middle eastern appearance” alarm bells going off.
How many more innocents need to die in the name of allah before people wake the fuck up.
Maybe if California had stricter gun laws…
Or more EPA regulations to combat climate change…
[quote]loppar wrote:
The Saudis have been throwing billions of dollars
[/quote]
Medieval assholes
Let’s build mosques
But not take anyone in
Your head needs to be pretty far up your ass to not see what’s going on with the gulf states.
I’m thinking that this guy was either a sleeper cell, and maybe thought he was under surveillance, and wanted to pull off some kind of carnage before he would be stopped.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Hate to be a pisser, but there are reports of all sorts of “middle eastern men” furtively coming and going from the house at night for some time. The neighbor didn’t want to be called racist, so he didn’t say anything.
The rifles were modified, with some expertise, to bypass CA mag rules.
The bombs were well made with classic bathtub explosives favored by ISIS.
He was a a devout Muslim and often contacted known radicals.
In short, this was terrorism.
What is the pisser is this: they almost certainly had help and instruction.
This leads me to believe there is a larger network out there, and Seyyid just happened to get pissed, pull a Leeroy Jenkens*, and went off too early.
More is undoubtedly planned at shopping centers and places of work throughout the USA.
*Leeroy Jenkins - Wikipedia
[/quote]
While it’s entirely possible (and arguably, likely), the FBI hasn’t determined whether the attack was an act of terrorism. “[A senior law enforcement official] said the FBI has yet to find definitive evidence that the couple had been radicalized or were looking at jihadist websites or reading terrorist literature such as Inspire magazine.” To assume ISIL is directly or tangentially responsible (outside of inspiration) is also a step at the current stage of the investigation. It wouldn’t be surprising, however, to learn that the couple was inspired by ISIL.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...omepage%2Fstory
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.[/quote]
WRONG.
California Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez claimed that ?multiautomatic round weapons are easily available, even though not in California.?
Will one of you fine gents more knowledgeable than me about firearms please tell me WTF a multiautomatic round weapon is ?
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Hate to be a pisser, but there are reports of all sorts of “middle eastern men” furtively coming and going from the house at night for some time. The neighbor didn’t want to be called racist, so he didn’t say anything.
The rifles were modified, with some expertise, to bypass CA mag rules.
The bombs were well made with classic bathtub explosives favored by ISIS.
He was a a devout Muslim and often contacted known radicals.
In short, this was terrorism.
What is the pisser is this: they almost certainly had help and instruction.
This leads me to believe there is a larger network out there, and Seyyid just happened to get pissed, pull a Leeroy Jenkens*, and went off too early.
More is undoubtedly planned at shopping centers and places of work throughout the USA.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins[/quote]
While it’s entirely possible (and arguably, likely), the FBI hasn’t determined whether the attack was an act of terrorism. “[A senior law enforcement official] said the FBI has yet to find definitive evidence that the couple had been radicalized or were looking at jihadist websites or reading terrorist literature such as Inspire magazine.” To assume ISIL is directly or tangentially responsible (outside of inspiration) is also a step at the current stage of the investigation. It wouldn’t be surprising, however, to learn that the couple was inspired by ISIL.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...omepage%2Fstory
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.[/quote]
WRONG.[/quote]
I’m wrong? And in capital letters no less? The FBI has yet to state that the event was terrorism, though it’s entirely possible that it was. It isn’t unreasonable to believe that terrorism was the likely motive, but it’s too soon to say definitively. Regardless, if it is terrorism, the attack doesn’t appear to have been directed or networked, but inspired.
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
It’s funny, Obummer does not jump to conclusions on motive, but he sure does on enacting legislation! Lol[/quote]
Nor does he jump to conclusions that it is radical Islamic terrorism. But, when a white cop showed up at a black University Professor’s house because of a call of someone snooping around Obama immediately said “looks like the police officer acted stupidly.” Then a few weeks later in order to save face they had a beer summit on the White House lawn. That is when Obama was still trying to cover his obvious race bias. He’s not even trying now.
I’m sure you remember the many times that Obama showed great sympathy for black victims (which I have no problem with) “Trayvon could have been my son.” Yet, one can hear crickets chirp when the victim is white, or when the attacker is of Muslim heritage, or a sympathizer (note fort hood for one).
He is also not very hot to rid the world of Isis for some reason. Hmm…one would think that the American President would be leading a strong coalition of other countries against this band of evil scum. But, not Obama he’s quite happy to show them he’s a tough guy by having a climate change summit in Paris.
Seems to be that Obama is not only a Muslim sympathizer but also a racist.
Harsh? I don’t think so as I. I’ve watched this guy for 7 years now. I knew he was going to be a bad President but I never knew he’d be this bad.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
^ That is astonishing.
I actually think there is going to be a small, but noticiable bask lash to the PC, head-in-the sand approach to radical Islam. Mainstream media and sensible democrats included.
It’s funny, Obummer does not jump to conclusions on motive, but he sure does on enacting legislation! Lol[/quote]
Don’t worry.
In a little more than a year, President Trump will jump to any conclusion you want him to…and will “tell-it-like-it-is”.
Mufasa
[/quote]
Trump will not be the republican nominee and you know that right?
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Hate to be a pisser, but there are reports of all sorts of “middle eastern men” furtively coming and going from the house at night for some time. The neighbor didn’t want to be called racist, so he didn’t say anything.
The rifles were modified, with some expertise, to bypass CA mag rules.
The bombs were well made with classic bathtub explosives favored by ISIS.
He was a a devout Muslim and often contacted known radicals.
In short, this was terrorism.
What is the pisser is this: they almost certainly had help and instruction.
This leads me to believe there is a larger network out there, and Seyyid just happened to get pissed, pull a Leeroy Jenkens*, and went off too early.
More is undoubtedly planned at shopping centers and places of work throughout the USA.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins[/quote]
While it’s entirely possible (and arguably, likely), the FBI hasn’t determined whether the attack was an act of terrorism. “[A senior law enforcement official] said the FBI has yet to find definitive evidence that the couple had been radicalized or were looking at jihadist websites or reading terrorist literature such as Inspire magazine.” To assume ISIL is directly or tangentially responsible (outside of inspiration) is also a step at the current stage of the investigation. It wouldn’t be surprising, however, to learn that the couple was inspired by ISIL.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...omepage%2Fstory
If we assume the attack is terrorism, it appears to not have been directed or networked, but rather inspired.[/quote]
WRONG.[/quote]
I’m wrong? And in capital letters no less? The FBI has yet to state that the event was terrorism, though it’s entirely possible that it was. It isn’t unreasonable to believe that terrorism was the likely motive, but it’s too soon to say definitively. Regardless, if it is terrorism, the attack doesn’t appear to have been directed or networked, but inspired. [/quote]
Sorry man, but I don’t need the director of the fbi to make a statement to draw my own correct conclusions.
So yeah- capital letters.