Same Game, Different Century?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]SpartanX wrote:
matko5 wrote:
SpartanX wrote:
Let me rephrase.

Bosnia were/are sell-out, to foreign muslim invaders of Europe. These invaders, enslaved, belittled, and abuse the kingdoms they came into, kingdoms such as as Albania and Bosnia who sold out and converted/encouraged islam, were given preferential treatment, and favored positions within the imperial administration of the region. Christian were treated like shyt. When your benefactor patron left, Tito saved the place as he told everone to forget history and look to the future. When his beautiful idea fell through, people remembered their history, and they didn’t forget the injustice. Serbia enlarged, Croatia enlarged, the bully of Bosnia became the bullied, and then wimpered for the world to help- noone cared except some jihadis from the middle east, till clinton stepped in.

I don’t know why he cared. I mean if China invaded the USA, and the Mayor of New York decreed Communism and Atheism the official doctrines and encouraged Chinese languauge and culture at the expense of our own. Further, served as a colonial uncle tom over our nation with prefered treatment from our dominator. When we sloughed Chinese rule, woudl it be wrong for us to take care of the New York Benedict Arnold issue? Me thinks not.

Same shit, different continent.

Balkan wars of the '90 had nothing with religion hatred. The Turks left a century before the wars, I don’t think there was much anger because of what they did centuries before that. Pure nationalism.

So the bosniak national identity, serbian, and croatian ones are not linked to their cultures which are of course not linked to their national religions? Okay. Quite an astounding thesis paper you should be able to write on this.

I live by 60,000 bosnians homes, I’ve seen your stupid ass broadcasting tower for that allahu akbar shyt three times a day in a goddamn american city for everyone to hear. If you don’t think Bosnian identity is some neo-ottoman muslim shyt, then I don’t even think you’re really Bosnian.

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I’m not Bosnian, I never said so. But I’m telling you that the wars over here weren’t motivated by religion.

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[quote]matko5 wrote:

I’m not Bosnian, I never said so. But I’m telling you that the wars over here weren’t motivated by religion.
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Are you a Serb or a Croat?

I agree that religion per se had little to do with the Bosnian civil war, but ethnicity sure did. And once the lines were drawn, the Serb propaganda machine waged a pretty extensive campaign which essentially struck the fear of jihad into the populace. Admittedly, there were a number of foreign mujahideen fighting on the Bosniak side, but overall, it was more about ethnic and cultural identity, separatism and survival, than about religion.

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Soooo, the cultural identity has NOTHING to do with religion? Were the Muslims they were killing Slavs or Turks? If they were mainly Slavs, how can you say this?

It was a war to avenge the losses of 1389, a war to avenge the atrocities of the Ustasha.

It was based on Nationalism which encompassed all three: religious, ethnic and cultral identity.