[quote]pat wrote:
I love it when people say shit like this with out offering any solutions or alternatives. What the fuck else is Israel supposed to do? Sit there and just let anybody bomb them who feels like it?
The muslim world gets pissed off about cartoons. They kill people over that shit. They antagonize very easily, how can you have rational negotiations with that mentality? No matter what you do you antagonize the muslim world…Since most of their objectives are in direct opposition to ours, we gonna piss them off no matter what we do.[/quote]
Exactly, They tried to beat Israel and got their asses kicked. Tr6y a little freedom and democracy once and get back to me.It’s funny how certain people love to defend the muslim world when their track record on freedom is so poor, but attack Israel. It’s like the apologists for all the communists back in the day.
Duly noted. Still, I believe that it was a different Army back then. Even if it had been logistically practical to wheel in the field artillery and just shell that hacienda that Cardenas was hiding out in, for example, I think all concerned would have thought it a base and cowardly thing to do, particularly since it would mean risking the deaths of Cardenas’ servants, wife and children, who were also present.
It took a cocky young lieutenant with a pistol to bring down Cardenas, while somehow managing not to hit any non-combatants.
It took a one-ton bomb to take out Nizar Rayan, knocking down a four-story building and killing eleven other people, including two of his wives and four of his children.
Not for me to say which method is the superior one, though.[/quote]
Agree with your posts, but you probably know as well as I do that the U.S. had a record in the Philippines a century back that puts any recent Israeli war crimes to shame.
Duly noted. Still, I believe that it was a different Army back then. Even if it had been logistically practical to wheel in the field artillery and just shell that hacienda that Cardenas was hiding out in, for example, I think all concerned would have thought it a base and cowardly thing to do, particularly since it would mean risking the deaths of Cardenas’ servants, wife and children, who were also present.
It took a cocky young lieutenant with a pistol to bring down Cardenas, while somehow managing not to hit any non-combatants.
It took a one-ton bomb to take out Nizar Rayan, knocking down a four-story building and killing eleven other people, including two of his wives and four of his children.
Not for me to say which method is the superior one, though.
Agree with your posts, but you probably know as well as I do that the U.S. had a record in the Philippines a century back that puts any recent Israeli war crimes to shame.[/quote]
If the US were held to the same standards in WWII that the ‘Patriot’ crowd holds Israel to now, we’d all be speaking German.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
If the US were held to the same standards in WWII that the ‘Patriot’ crowd holds Israel to now, we’d all be speaking German.
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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Agree with your posts, but you probably know as well as I do that the U.S. had a record in the Philippines a century back that puts any recent Israeli war crimes to shame.[/quote]
Well, the Moros were Muslims, so they don’t count.
Besides, the result of our intervention in the Philippines was the Colt 1911 .45 automatic pistol, which is worth any sacrifice.
If the US were held to the same standards in WWII that the ‘Patriot’ crowd holds Israel to now, we’d all be speaking German.
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What a bizarre statement.
I don’t think holding the United States to as high a standard in the 1940s as Israel is held to now would have in any way improved the ability of Americans today to learn any foreign language, German included.
Of course, since you were responding to GDollars’ post about the Philippines, perhaps it would have made as much sense for you to say:
“If the US were held to the same standards in the Philippine Insurrection that the ‘Patriot’ crowd holds Israel to now, we’d all be speaking Tagalog.”
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Agree with your posts, but you probably know as well as I do that the U.S. had a record in the Philippines a century back that puts any recent Israeli war crimes to shame.
Well, the Moros were Muslims, so they don’t count.
If the US were held to the same standards in WWII that the ‘Patriot’ crowd holds Israel to now, we’d all be speaking German.
What a bizarre statement.
I don’t think holding the United States to as high a standard in the 1940s as Israel is held to now would have in any way improved the ability of Americans today to learn any foreign language, German included.
Of course, since you were responding to GDollars’ post about the Philippines, perhaps it would have made as much sense for you to say:
“If the US were held to the same standards in the Philippine Insurrection that the ‘Patriot’ crowd holds Israel to now, we’d all be speaking Tagalog.” [/quote]
The ‘Patriot’ crowd never met an Islamic group it didn’t like. Here’s the Moro Islamic Liberation Front’s website:
It reads like the same Arab Muslim propaganda that comes from the Palestinian groups with the names changed. Any retaliation by the kuffar is ‘genocide.’
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Every conflict is ultimately a land conflict, fought over either who’s going to live on the land, or who is going to benefit from the goodies on it.[/quote]
[quote]pat wrote:
I love it when people say shit like this with out offering any solutions or alternatives. What the fuck else is Israel supposed to do? Sit there and just let anybody bomb them who feels like it?
Well this all depends on where you start now doesn’t it?
What point in history do you start?
The muslim world gets pissed off about cartoons. They kill people over that shit. They antagonize very easily, how can you have rational negotiations with that mentality? No matter what you do you antagonize the muslim world…Since most of their objectives are in direct opposition to ours, we gonna piss them off no matter what we do.[/quote]
