[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
lixy wrote:
Interestingly, Ron Paul generates three times more Google traffic than McCain in Canada.
And “huge boobs” probably generates more traffic than all the candidates combined. Is Huge Boobs going to be president?[/quote]
I am voting for huge boobs
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
lixy wrote:
Where did you get the impression that they were running for office?
It’s all part of my twisted fantasy - so you see I can actually relate to those who think Paul has a chance in hell of winning.[/quote]
There are 2 ways I would vote for Paul ,First being I am sure Obama would win. Second would be I thought Paul had a chance to win
Someone want to tell me what is so wrong about the neoconservative movement? I’m being serious, i hear a lot of neocon bashing and the like, but no reasons. What gives?
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Someone want to tell me what is so wrong about the neoconservative movement? I’m being serious, i hear a lot of neocon bashing and the like, but no reasons. What gives?[/quote]
The War on Iraq**
Millions of Iraqis dead, maimed and displaced.
4000+ dead American soldiers.
Countless maimed Americans.
Close to $1 trillion.
Terrorism in Iraq.
[quote]lixy wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Someone want to tell me what is so wrong about the neoconservative movement? I’m being serious, i hear a lot of neocon bashing and the like, but no reasons. What gives?
The War on Iraq**
Millions of Iraqis dead, maimed and displaced.
4000+ dead American soldiers.
Countless maimed Americans.
Close to $1 trillion.
Terrorism in Iraq.[/quote]
Well, tell your cell leader to tell the head maniacs to quit firing up the Americans. Quit attacking those who’re trying to free the world from oppression and violence. Maybe those things you describe wouldn’t have happened w/o Saddam and Osama, and the Muslim fear of becoming civilised, not stuck in their hidebound culture.
[quote]lixy wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Someone want to tell me what is so wrong about the neoconservative movement? I’m being serious, i hear a lot of neocon bashing and the like, but no reasons. What gives?
The War on Iraq**
Millions of Iraqis dead, maimed and displaced.
4000+ dead American soldiers.
Countless maimed Americans.
Close to $1 trillion.
Terrorism in Iraq.[/quote]
They say that 1 billion minuts ago Christ lived and there are 1000 x 1 billion = 1 trillion
Ron Paul Wins 15 Percent in Oregon
[i]Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul received 15 percent of yesterday’s primary vote in Oregon, a state in which he inspired both strong grassroots activism and online support but did not physically visit.
“Oregonians and Americans are hungry for the leadership that will protect the traditions that made our country so great,” said campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. “Dr. Paul’s grassroots supporters delivered Dr. Paul’s second best GOP primary showing based on percentage points. Dr. Paul and the grassroots movement he has inspired are building a bright future for the Republican Party and the United States of America.” [/i]
http://prwallstreet.com/article.cfm?articleID=19123
How’s that for progressive?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Ron Paul Wins 15 Percent in Oregon
[i]Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul received 15 percent of yesterday’s primary vote in Oregon, a state in which he inspired both strong grassroots activism and online support but did not physically visit.
“Oregonians and Americans are hungry for the leadership that will protect the traditions that made our country so great,” said campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. “Dr. Paul’s grassroots supporters delivered Dr. Paul’s second best GOP primary showing based on percentage points. Dr. Paul and the grassroots movement he has inspired are building a bright future for the Republican Party and the United States of America.” [/i]
http://prwallstreet.com/article.cfm?articleID=19123
How’s that for progressive?[/quote]
How embarrassing for Paul. McCain is almost a Democrat in disguise and Paul can only get 15% of the Republican vote.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
How embarrassing for Paul. [/quote]
Hardly.
I think this speaks more to the death of the conservative movement than it does to any lack of support for Paul.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
How embarrassing for Paul.
Hardly.
I think this speaks more to the death of the conservative movement than it does to any lack of support for Paul.[/quote]
Not really. There are plenty of conservatives out there that will not vote for Paul.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Not really. There are plenty of conservatives out there that will not vote for Paul.[/quote]
Which makes me wonder who of the self-proclaimed conservatives that support McCain are really conservative.
I am not a conservative by any means but I still have to question McCain’s credentials as a conservative.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Not really. There are plenty of conservatives out there that will not vote for Paul.
Which makes me wonder who of the self-proclaimed conservatives that support McCain are really conservative.
I am not a conservative by any means but I still have to question McCain’s credentials as a conservative.[/quote]
McCain is not a conservative but he is not an extremist like Paul.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
McCain is not a conservative [/quote]and[quote] he is not [/quote]principled[quote] like Paul. [/quote]
There, fixed it for you.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
McCain is not a conservative and he is not principled like Paul.
There, fixed it for you.[/quote]
Nice spin.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
McCain is not a conservative and he is not principled like Paul.
There, fixed it for you.
Nice spin.[/quote]
That’s how I roll.
[quote]lixy wrote:
vroom wrote:
…
Interestingly, Ron Paul generates three times more Google traffic than McCain in Canada.[/quote]
That’s fan-fucking-tastic.
Not only does he beat McCain ,but he does it in a country he’s not running for office in!?!! Does he beat McCain in New Zealand too?
We should choose our leaders based on who searches them the most on google, or better yet, whichever page loads most often when you click random article on wikipedia! But only based on the results of Ecuador.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
Okay say hello to President Big Tits
Where did you get the impression that they were running for office?
I posted that tidbit because I found it “interesting”, not in an attempt to predict who will get elected.[/quote]
I should have kept reading to see this post instead of replying to the earlier one. Ignore m dickish rant, my apologies.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Someone want to tell me what is so wrong about the neoconservative movement? I’m being serious, i hear a lot of neocon bashing and the like, but no reasons. What gives?[/quote]
I wouldn’t say that neoconservatism is bad so much as it is something i disagree with. There are neocons that I would not hesistate to throw under and oncoming bus though.
[quote]Irving Kristol: "If there is any one thing that neoconservatives are unanimous about, it is their dislike of the counterculture."[/quote]
Here's one reason (this quote is in regards to the hippie movement)
From the neocon wikipedia page:
[quote]"they believe that a society with no commonly accepted values based on religion or ancient tradition will end up in a war of all against all. "[/quote]
I just plain disagree with a need for religion in order for a society to be peaceful, or at least not at war.
[quote]Compared with traditional conservatism and libertarianism, which may be non-interventionist, neoconservatism emphasizes defense capability, [b]challenging regimes hostile to the values[/b] and interests of the United States, and pressing for free-market policies abroad[/quote]
Bolded for emphasis, to me that reads awfully close to simply waging war against brown people (to borrow from George Carlin).
Also the idea of pressing for free-market policies abroad if a sovereign nation by and large votes along the lines of a more restricted market, socialism, or other system. Statements like the above sound to me a lot like trying to move Europe, with their consent or not, towards our idea of how they should be.
All quotes taken from wikipedia page describing their "evolution of neoconservative views". Based on the definition provided by wiki, thats what I don't like about them. It’s all about forcing other people to live by “our” ideals…