Ron Paul Revolution

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
your movement is dead. [/quote]

The republican party is dead, and in the end so are you.[/quote]

Zeb’s thought is typical of PWI threads , thinking if they talk some one to death ,then they are right
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I know I hate people who are able to articulate an argument. Just because they can make a claim and then proceed to back it up with evidence does not make them right. After all you have your long believed false dogma that’s served you well all these years, why change any of that. Why even question it?

Carry on.

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It is you that believes the the Rhetoric that is spoon fed to the American public , my articulation is no problem , my problem would be punctuation :slight_smile:
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I don’t think punctuation is that big a deal. I always understand where you’re coming from by the time I finish one of your posts. In fact, while we may disagree on most things political you are a bright guy.

Have a good day my friend.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

is it possible you see something that no one else sees or possibly something that does not exist ?
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Well, let’s see. I say that’s a video with two clips of Ron Paul. And that in the first clip he says that we should have relied upon the Pakistanis to arrest OBL and hand him over to us. The second clip is him saying that Pakistan was hiding and protecting OBL. Now I keep assuming that everyone can put two and two together. Perhaps not everyone can. If Pakistan were hiding and protecting OBL how could we rely upon them to arrest him and hand him over? And the answer to that question is we couldn’t. We couldn’t rely upon the Pakistanis to arrest OBL and hand him over - and the reason we couldn’t rely upon them to do so is that they were hiding and protecting him.[/quote]

I can not speak for any one else but I see that but what is your point ?

It would be like me thinking you are defending or think it was a good thing America spent a trillion dollars to kill OBL ?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I can not speak for any one else but I see that but what is your point ?

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If you haven’t got the point yet you never will.

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I’m all for Ron Paul, however I’m not an active participant in voting. Not that I cannot vote, just haven’t registered yet. I’m going to, and need to before the time comes to actually vote.

I like how he is all about small federal govt, and the constitution. How he isn’t into porkbarrelling and going with lobbyists. He’s said and given numerous advice on topics that got brushed under the table and later resurfaced only proving that he had a heads up and knew what to expect.

I really respect the man, and I hate politicians/politics

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[quote]ZenPit wrote:

I like how he is all about small federal govt, and the constitution.

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He’s “all about” the constitution is he? Is Ron Paul an anarchist like Rothbard and Rockwell? Y/N?

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Ron Paul being interviewed by an anarchist:

Interviewer: I know you stand for the constitution but what do you say to people who advocate self-government rather than a return to the constitution?

Ron Paul: Great. I’m fine…and.ah…I think really that’s what my goal is.

Not really a constitutionalist at all is he?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Well, there you have it folks. The only one left defending Ron Paul is a Muslim, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist and he refers to Bush II as “demonic.” His nonsense, gibberish, obfuscating response is there for all to see.[/quote]

SM,
You seem to be operating under a false impression that you have banished all the ignorant “Paultards” and stand victorious at the top of the mountain.

Perhaps consider the possibility that you have simply become an obnoxious bore.

Get a job and move out of your mom’s basement. You have way too much time on your hands.

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[quote]JEATON wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Well, there you have it folks. The only one left defending Ron Paul is a Muslim, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist and he refers to Bush II as “demonic.” His nonsense, gibberish, obfuscating response is there for all to see.[/quote]

SM,
You seem to be operating under a false impression that you have banished all the ignorant “Paultards” and stand victorious at the top of the mountain.

Perhaps consider the possibility that you have simply become an obnoxious bore.

Get a job and move out of your mom’s basement. You have way too much time on your hands.
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Why don’t you just answer my questions for once? How can an anarchist be a constitutionalist? Answer that or get lost nitwit.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]JEATON wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Well, there you have it folks. The only one left defending Ron Paul is a Muslim, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist and he refers to Bush II as “demonic.” His nonsense, gibberish, obfuscating response is there for all to see.[/quote]

SM,
You seem to be operating under a false impression that you have banished all the ignorant “Paultards” and stand victorious at the top of the mountain.

Perhaps consider the possibility that you have simply become an obnoxious bore.

Get a job and move out of your mom’s basement. You have way too much time on your hands.
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Why don’t you just answer my questions for once? How can an anarchist be a constitutionalist? Answer that or get lost nitwit.[/quote]

You are too accustomed to others allowing you to set the boundaries and define the terms.

Being far from a “nitwit”, I see you coming a mile away.

I do not accept your premise. Therefore, your question is nothing that concerns me.

I have been here for ten years. I have seem your kind come and go by the hundreds. As I said, you had potential, but you overplayed your hand. Too many posts. Too many YouTube clips. Way too much time to show your intellectual prowess on each and every damned thread brought up.

Get a life, kid. There is way too much going on in the real world to keep your head buried in a monitor as much as you do. Turn it off and go for a walk. You might even see a real live girl.

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You don’t accept the premise so you’re going to launch into another ad hominem? You know nothing about me. Like I said, get lost nitwit.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
You don’t accept the premise so you’re going to launch into another ad hominem? You know nothing about me. Like I said, get lost nitwit.[/quote]

Interwebz feuding aside, I love the “nitwit”. Used it several times today. Always left a smile on my face.

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You still here nitwit? :wink:

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Bump.

William F. Buckley Jr. on the death of Murray Rothbard:

"MURRAY ROTHBARD, age 68, died on January 7. We extend condolences to his family, but not to the movement he inspired…He was the primary influence in founding the Libertarian. Party, whose godfather he continued to be until he broke with it a few years ago.

What reason, then, not to regret the end of his influence on the conservative-libertarian movement?

Murray Rothbard had defective judgment. It pains even to recall it, but in 1959 when Khrushchev arrived in New York, with much of America stunned by the visit of the butcher of Budapest-the Soviet protege of Stalin who was threatening a world war over Berlin. Rothbard physically applauded Khrushchev in his limousine as it passed by on the street. He gave as his reason for this that, after all, Khrushchev had killed fewer people than General Eisenhower, his host.

It was a great pity, but his problem ought not to be thought of as tracing to the seamless integrity of libertarian principles. In Murray’s case, much of what drove him was a contrarian spirit, the deranging scrupulosity that caused him to disdain such as Herbert Hoover, Ronald Reagan, Milton Friedman, and-yes-Newt Gingrich…

Ron Paul on the death of Murray Rothbard:

'America has lost one if its greatest men, and the Freedom Movement one of its greatest heroes…I didn’t meet him until 1979. I wrote him, he wrote back…I discovered a joyous libertarian, and one of the most fascinating human beings I’ve ever met…I loved talking to this down-to-earth genius…Murray was the sweetest, funniest most generous of men.

When I last talked to Murray, a few days before his untimely death, he urged me to run for office again.’ etc.

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^ SM you provided a letter which provides an example of how Dr. Paul talks and respects the dead. Still waiting for the purpose you have in showing me this information. shrug

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]ZenPit wrote:

I like how he is all about small federal govt, and the constitution.

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He’s “all about” the constitution is he? Is Ron Paul an anarchist like Rothbard and Rockwell? Y/N?[/quote]

Do you know what a “guilt by association” fallacy is?

And no, Paul is not an anarchist. He believes it is possible for the government to restrain itself from using its power to acquire more of it.

He sympathizes only with the anarchists argument about the immoral things governments do.

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[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
^ SM you provided a letter which provides an example of how Dr. Paul talks and respects the dead. Still waiting for the purpose you have in showing me this information. shrug[/quote]

He apparently also likes and respects Mitt Romney. That proves something to me, he’s much smarter than many have thought.

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[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
^ SM you provided a letter which provides an example of how Dr. Paul talks and respects the dead. Still waiting for the purpose you have in showing me this information. shrug[/quote]

Buckley was one of the greatest conservative thinkers of the 20th century. He was an essential influence on Goldwater and Reagan. He was explaining why he doesn’t like Ron Paul’s movement. I agree with him.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

Do you know what a “guilt by association” fallacy is?

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Absolutely.

Yes I know. He’s a minarchist. Minarchism is totally at odds with the U.S. Constitution. Paul is not a constitutionalist. I’ve already been through all this.

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Ron Paul’s Military Support AWOL in South Carolina:

‘South Carolina is a state steeped in military tradition dating back to the Revolution, and is home to over 38,000 active duty military on seven military installations. Tens of thousands of veterans live here…exit polling showed that 21 percent of those who voted in South Carolina served in the military. Of those who identified themselves as veterans or active duty military, Ron Paul received only 12 percent of the vote. Newt Gingrich, the clear winner of the primary, received 39 percent of the military vote.’

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

Do you know what a “guilt by association” fallacy is?

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Absolutely.

Yes I know. He’s a minarchist. Minarchism is totally at odds with the U.S. Constitution. Paul is not a constitutionalist. I’ve already been through all this.[/quote]

Ron Paul is a constitutionalist and you don’t know what you are talking about.

Minarchism is not at odds with the constitution; minarchism is the archetype of a constitutional government. The government is supposed to be restrained and minimal in its responsibilities.

The power is supposed to rest with the people and not with the government.