[quote]Mick28 wrote:
When you come up with some proof that the media is bought and paid for by big business (I’m laughing while I type this) show me.
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You can’t be seriously challenging that. It makes you look really out-of-whack.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
When you come up with some proof that the media is bought and paid for by big business (I’m laughing while I type this) show me.
You can’t be seriously challenging that. It makes you look really out-of-whack.[/quote]
Yes he can.
Because, you see, for him you’re just another schmuck.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
I do so love a goood bitch slapping…
Please keep your fantasies to yourself.
The images are quite disturbing.
Thanks,
JeffR
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Lol…
There’s no need to obsess,there are many good drugs you can take to help.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
bota,
Interesting. Again, if more people thought this was BS they could take action.
What action? Win elections. Have candidates put their type of politicians in office in order to reform the justice system. Or gasp amend the Constitution to make it explicit what commerce entails.
The internet?
JeffR
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No, this is BS, no matter what people think about it.
The power of the Congress were limited by the constitution for a reason and should only be expanded by changing the constitution.
To first twist it like a pretzel and then have people vote on it to repeal it, is against the oath both executive and judicial government servants took.
The constitution is there to make change in certain areas hard and these measures are there to fight change, not to cement the errors the supreme court made.
It is not a coincidence that this case was tried in an era when the US flirted with fascism.
And even if you could have an election on such an issue, what would hinder any executive or judge to rape that document again?
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
arnoldseven wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
When you come up with some proof that the media is bought and paid for by big business (I’m laughing while I type this) show me.
It took me one minute, FUCKFACE…
New York Times: Caryle Group, Eli Lilly, Ford, Johnson and Johnson, Hallmark,
Lehman Brothers, Staples, Pepsi
Washington Post: Lockheed Martin, Coca-Cola, Dun & Bradstreet, Gillette,
G.E. Investments, J.P. Morgan, Moody’s
Knight-Ridder: Adobe Systems, Echelon, H&R Block, Kimberly-Clark, Starwood Hotels
The Tribune (Chicago & LA Times): 3M, Allstate, Caterpillar, Conoco Phillips, Kraft,
McDonalds, Pepsi, Quaker Oats, Shering Plough, Wells Fargo
News Corp (Fox): British Airways, Rothschild Investments
GE (NBC): Anheuser-Busch, Avon, Bechtel, Chevron/Texaco, Coca-Cola, Dell, GM,
Home Depot, Kellogg, J.P. Morgan, Microsoft, Motorola, Procter & Gamble,
Disney (ABC): Boeing, Northwest Airlines, Clorox, Estee Lauder, FedEx, Gillette,
Halliburton, Kmart, McKesson, Staples, Yahoo,
Viacom (CBS): American Express, Consolidated Edison, Oracle, Lafarge North America
Gannett: AP, Lockheed-Martin, Continental Airlines, Goldman Sachs, Prudential, Target,
Pepsi,
AOL-Time Warner (CNN): Citigroup, Estee Lauder, Colgate-Palmolive, Hilton
You are one very stupid, stupid bastard.
Because someone uses the media (Yes it’s media not “medias” as you’ve been saying…you ignorant fuck) to advertise means what?
I asked for proof that big business controls or “owns” the media and you list companies that have used the media to sell their product or service. That proves NOTHING.
Ha ha ha…
LMAO
Here’s a clue for you: Post less, read more.
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Actually, these media corporations are owned and subsidized by big business. Nothing wrong with advertising but these companies use their platform to promote their agenda which isn’t always inline with middle America.
Case in point: GE owns NBC. They advertise their military industrial complex corporation on a nightly basis on their networks. They have a big interest in keeping wars going so that government will buy contracts for missile guidance, etc.
You can’t possible think that corporations don’t have an interest in their own solvency and use every advantage possible do you?
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
I asked for proof that big business controls or “owns” the media and you list companies that have used the media to sell their product or service. That proves NOTHING.[/quote]
Yeah…
OWNS:
GENERAL ELECTRICS:
2006 revenues: $163.4 billion
General Electric media-related holdings include television networks NBC Universal and Telemundo, Universal Pictures, Focus Features, 38 television stations in the U.S., and cable networks such as MSNBC, Bravo and the Sci Fi Channel.
CONTROLS:
Big Media Interlocks
with Corporate America
By Peter Phillips
Mainstream media is the term often used to describe the collective group of big TV, radio and newspapers in the United States. Mainstream implies that the news being produced is for the benefit and enlightenment of the mainstream population�??the majority of people living in the US. Mainstream media include a number of communication mediums that carry almost all the news and information on world affairs that most Americans receive. The word media is plural, implying a diversity of news sources.
However, mainstream media no longer produce news for the mainstream population�??nor should we consider the media as plural. Instead it is more accurate to speak of big media in the US today as the corporate media and to use the term in the singular tense�??as it refers to the singular monolithic top-down power structure of self-interested news giants.
A research team at Sonoma State University has recently finished conducting a network analysis of the boards of directors of the ten big media organizations in the US. The team determined that only 118 people comprise the membership on the boards of director of the ten big media giants. This is a small enough group to fit in a moderate size university classroom. These 118 individuals in turn sit on the corporate boards of 288 national and international corporations. In fact, eight out of ten big media giants share common memberships on boards of directors with each other. NBC and the Washington Post both have board members who sit on Coca Cola and J. P. Morgan, while the Tribune Company, The New York Times and Gannett all have members who share a seat on Pepsi. It is kind of like one big happy family of interlocks and shared interests. The following are but a few of the corporate board interlocks for the big ten media giants in the US:
New York Times: Caryle Group, Eli Lilly, Ford, Johnson and Johnson, Hallmark,
Lehman Brothers, Staples, Pepsi
Washington Post: Lockheed Martin, Coca-Cola, Dun & Bradstreet, Gillette,
G.E. Investments, J.P. Morgan, Moody’s
Knight-Ridder: Adobe Systems, Echelon, H&R Block, Kimberly-Clark, Starwood Hotels
The Tribune (Chicago & LA Times): 3M, Allstate, Caterpillar, Conoco Phillips, Kraft,
McDonalds, Pepsi, Quaker Oats, Shering Plough, Wells Fargo
News Corp (Fox): British Airways, Rothschild Investments
GE (NBC): Anheuser-Busch, Avon, Bechtel, Chevron/Texaco, Coca-Cola, Dell, GM,
Home Depot, Kellogg, J.P. Morgan, Microsoft, Motorola, Procter & Gamble,
Disney (ABC): Boeing, Northwest Airlines, Clorox, Estee Lauder, FedEx, Gillette,
Halliburton, Kmart, McKesson, Staples, Yahoo,
Viacom (CBS): American Express, Consolidated Edison, Oracle, Lafarge North America
Gannett: AP, Lockheed-Martin, Continental Airlines, Goldman Sachs, Prudential, Target,
Pepsi,
AOL-Time Warner (CNN): Citigroup, Estee Lauder, Colgate-Palmolive, Hilton
Can we trust the news editors at the Washington Post to be fair and objective regarding news stories about Lockheed-Martin defense contract over-runs? Or can we assuredly believe that ABC will conduct critical investigative reporting on Halliburton’s sole-source contracts in Iraq? If we believe the corporate media give us the full un-censored truth about key issues inside the special interests of American capitalism, then we might feel that they are meeting the democratic needs of mainstream America. However if we believe �?? as increasingly more Americans do�?? that corporate media serves its own self-interests instead of those of the people, than we can no longer call it mainstream or refer to it as plural. Instead we need to say that corporate media is corporate America, and that we the mainstream people need to be looking at alternative independent sources for our news and information.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
arnoldseven wrote:
Paul is looked at as a renegade with in the republican party. He disagrees with all major candidates on just about every issue and espouses views that are so radical that no one…and I mean no one, of any credibility wants to align themselves with this nut case.
Well, looks like it’s all the other major candidates who are disagreeing with traditional conservatives…or the rest of the voters, for that matter( 70% americans want the war over NOW)
So does every democrat running for President. But if you check the ranks of the republican party you’ll find that just about every one of them take a much different stance on this issue than Paul does.
Which further proves my point.[/quote]
Your point is that Paul is looked at as a renegade with in the republican party. My point is BIG FUCKING DEAL, FUCKFACE.
All the republican platform is made of warmongering clones; Rudy is a mafia thug, Mc Cain an old crazy tard, and Romney is a Reagan erzats. They all say basically the same things,want more Americans to die in the middle east while the economy and the dollar tank and the national debt skyrockets; they all are puppets of big corporations.
Paul is the only candidate not bought and paid for; he always was opposed to the war, to big governement spending and expansion, to the unpatriot act and to the Fiat currency system that is financing this war.
Americans want out before their children turn slaves to the fed for 10 generations. They are fed up with the war and the infringement on their liberties;trhat’s why Paul is so popular and that’s why his campaign will take off in the polls very soon.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:Ron Paul should be off in a party of his own.
We could call it the “nut bird party” and you could be a part of that.
Now wouldn’t that be exciting tard boy?[/quote]
Actually, Paul is right in his own party, ever since the Reagan days. The republican party is by tradition the conservative party; it is actually all the other paid prostitutes that should leave the republican party and run as LIBERALS, because that’s what Bush and his neocons are really.
And the people aren’t fooled, weirdo.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:Ha ha…“The United Republicans Of California” ha ha…too much…a splinter group off of the main state republican organization of California.
Good try junior but you’re still looking like a retard.[/quote]
Paul won the majority of straw polls up to now; guess his supporters switched identities and states, HUUUH ??
Every day that goes by, as his message reaches new audiances, Paul is endorsed by more and more personalities and groups. He even has a fanbase in Europe.
In a few weeks you will end up with an egg on your face, tard.
Judging by the forum poll from another site that i posted, looks like a lot of people are convinced already, FUCKFACE.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Case in point: GE owns NBC. They advertise their military industrial complex corporation on a nightly basis on their networks. They have a big interest in keeping wars going so that government will buy contracts for missile guidance, etc.
You can’t possible think that corporations don’t have an interest in their own solvency and use every advantage possible do you?[/quote]
Whoa, hold on. I do buy this argument, though not as heavily as most. But have you watched NBC? MSNBC? This is one of the most anti-war stations you can imagine. IF GE wants to keep wars going then they need someone other than that douchebag Kieth Olberman carrying their standard.
mike
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
arnoldseven wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
When you come up with some proof that the media is bought and paid for by big business (I’m laughing while I type this) show me.
It took me one minute, FUCKFACE…
New York Times: Caryle Group, Eli Lilly, Ford, Johnson and Johnson, Hallmark,
Lehman Brothers, Staples, Pepsi
Washington Post: Lockheed Martin, Coca-Cola, Dun & Bradstreet, Gillette,
G.E. Investments, J.P. Morgan, Moody’s
Knight-Ridder: Adobe Systems, Echelon, H&R Block, Kimberly-Clark, Starwood Hotels
The Tribune (Chicago & LA Times): 3M, Allstate, Caterpillar, Conoco Phillips, Kraft,
McDonalds, Pepsi, Quaker Oats, Shering Plough, Wells Fargo
News Corp (Fox): British Airways, Rothschild Investments
GE (NBC): Anheuser-Busch, Avon, Bechtel, Chevron/Texaco, Coca-Cola, Dell, GM,
Home Depot, Kellogg, J.P. Morgan, Microsoft, Motorola, Procter & Gamble,
Disney (ABC): Boeing, Northwest Airlines, Clorox, Estee Lauder, FedEx, Gillette,
Halliburton, Kmart, McKesson, Staples, Yahoo,
Viacom (CBS): American Express, Consolidated Edison, Oracle, Lafarge North America
Gannett: AP, Lockheed-Martin, Continental Airlines, Goldman Sachs, Prudential, Target,
Pepsi,
AOL-Time Warner (CNN): Citigroup, Estee Lauder, Colgate-Palmolive, Hilton
You are one very stupid, stupid bastard.
Because someone uses the media (Yes it’s media not “medias” as you’ve been saying…you ignorant fuck) to advertise means what?
I asked for proof that big business controls or “owns” the media and you list companies that have used the media to sell their product or service. That proves NOTHING.
Ha ha ha…
LMAO
Here’s a clue for you: Post less, read more.
Actually, these media corporations are owned and subsidized by big business. Nothing wrong with advertising but these companies use their platform to promote their agenda which isn’t always inline with middle America.
Case in point: GE owns NBC. They advertise their military industrial complex corporation on a nightly basis on their networks. They have a big interest in keeping wars going so that government will buy contracts for missile guidance, etc.
You can’t possible think that corporations don’t have an interest in their own solvency and use every advantage possible do you?
Funny we’ve gone from “OWNING” to "having an interest.
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Ummm…I would say that ownership is enough of an interest to protect one’s ass.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
… But seeing as how you’re already a Paul supporter under a different name that would but pointless.
You’re not making any sense under either of your names.
LOL
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I wager he has at least six other names.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Let’s see how do I put this delicately?
You have not proven that “the media” is owned by big business. And I would hazard a guess that even you are smart enough to realize this.[/quote]
General Electrics: ALREADY ONE EGG IN YOUR FACE
Rest of the medias: their DIRECTORS sit on the CORPORATE BOARDS of 288 national and international corporations.
How fair would a media be when one of the corporations runs in trouble ?
Read the story of FOX news and Monsanto’s BOVINE GROWTH HORMONE
THAT’S THE SECOND EGG IN YOUR FACE, BRAINFUCK
"Monsanto and others are trying to heavily promote genetically engineered (GE) or Genetically Modified (GM) food as the way to solve world hunger. What is not acknowledged is that food shortage around the world is more of a political problem. GE food may be a good alternative in the future after much more testing and guarantees of safety, but the current push and types of GE technology (like Terminator seeds) being promoted suggest that the intention is perhaps more profit-oriented.
Two award-winning Florida TV producers working for Fox were fired after they refused to broadcast false reports about Monsanto’s controversial genetically engineered Bovine Growth Hormone.
While there have been many cases of corporate groups supporting PR firms or setting up fake consumer groups to try and lobby a certain position favorable for its interests, Monsanto had apparently gone a step further by using fake people on the internet on some listserves that discussed science issues. (This itself is not really a new tactic, as it appears that a number of companies in various industries have been doing this.)
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Okay…prove that they are puppets of big corporations, or shut the fuck up.[/quote]
Prove Paul isn’t the candidate who received the most from the military, FUCKFACE.
Do that for me, will you?