[quote]mstott25 wrote:
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By the way Ron Paul is the antithesis of socialism, either you don’t understand socialism or you don’t understand Paul. Giuliani touting his national ID card was the closest thing to a socialist last night.[/quote]
Work on reading comprehension. It is the socialists that support Paul that are intellectually dishonest.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing. [/quote]
“Pulling a France” doesn’t apply here. It’s not like Iraqis have invaded Washington and people are asking you to drop the guns and surrender. The only “pull” France did that could apply to this case is their withdrawal from Algeria and other colonies.
I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.
I like Ron Paul, mostly because he wants to abolish the Federal Reserve System. Fiat money allows governments to finance wars through inflation. Of course, if your enemy is doing it…
I just read the transcript of the debate last night.
Who are the people cheering Ron Paul?
His stance on foreign policy seems to be as follows:
Also his position on airport security is laughable. There is no doubt the feds are screwing it up and I am a strong supporter but no have the feds back out of it and let the airlines handle it is ridiculous.
This guy has to come up with some ideas on how to fix things instead of just saying it is someone else’s problem.
The more I read the less I like.
Once again, who is cheering this guy? Is it the motivated rage against the machine types?
[quote]lixy wrote:
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I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.[/quote]
Germany, Japan, Italy…
[quote]lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing.
“Pulling a France” doesn’t apply here. It’s not like Iraqis have invaded Washington and people are asking you to drop the guns and surrender. The only “pull” France did that could apply to this case is their withdrawal from Algeria and other colonies.
I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.[/quote]
Signed,
Germany and Japan Post-World War II.
JeffR
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Nommy and Lifty.
And if you intend on continuing this conversation I suggest that you actually come back with new information. And most importantly know your facts. Know who the former Presidents were. Know how many Congressman have tried and failed to become President. I’ve proven you wrong on every single point. Yet, you comeback with the same shit.
Really…you can’t be this stupid, I think it’s more stubborn. Yes, I’m sure of it as no one is this stupid.
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You are a meaningless tool. This thread is called “Ron Paul on the Record”. Why don’t you attempt to shoot holes in Ron Pauls record? Why don’t you instead try and dispute his policies? You can’t because you only look at polls to figure out what you beleive–in other word, you really don’t know anything that isn’t spoon fed to you from media sources.
Ron Paul says what he believes, he believes what he says–he follows thru with both of those in principle even when he’s not making a “popular” decision. He is “A Steel-spined Ass-kicker With Dangling Anatomy Made of Solid Brass”–and that is why he is earning my vote. The other candidates on stage (I genuinely like Huckabee and McCain) cannot hold a candle to this man.
As far as your other request…why should I re-exert myself when all you do is copy and paste your previous posts that are utterly wrong? I know who the last congressman was to get elected from congress–I’ve stated who it was about 20 pages ago. You didn’t read it. I won’t reiterate myself. You can feel free to find it if you really need the information.
You’ve proven nothing. You’ve stated your opinion and that is all. Now, tell us what you think of Paul’s record…or post something that discredits it.
Tell me, why is this thread the most popular thread on T-Nation (other than the “Ass Worship Thread”) at the moment if Paul is so meaningless to you and the rest of T-Nation members? You must feel something to keep posting otherwise why bother? Are you just someone who is after a reaction–known as a “troll”? Do you have nothing better to do with your time–since you fail to make any relevant points to the topic of the thread?
We’re on to you, micky.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
It is the socialists that support Paul that are intellectually dishonest.[/quote]
Socialists don’t support Paul. They mostly support immediate withdrawal from Iraq. There is nothing dishonest with supporting a policy. I like other candidates ideas but again, none of them are the complete package.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing.
“Pulling a France” doesn’t apply here. It’s not like Iraqis have invaded Washington and people are asking you to drop the guns and surrender. The only “pull” France did that could apply to this case is their withdrawal from Algeria and other colonies.
I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.
Signed,
Germany and Japan Post-World War II.
JeffR
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What other choice did they have? We held the “economic carrot” over them.
Thank you for comparing Iraq with post WW2 Germany. Tells us something about your perception of reality.
[quote]lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing.
“Pulling a France” doesn’t apply here. It’s not like Iraqis have invaded Washington and people are asking you to drop the guns and surrender. The only “pull” France did that could apply to this case is their withdrawal from Algeria and other colonies.
I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.[/quote]
Japan, Germany, were occupied for years and are now some of the leading democracies in the world. Let’s hope Iraq (and Iran soon) follow this example. Occupying Iran will be harder but that’s what has to be done to establish peace and freedom there.
America, the Great Liberator!!
[quote]JeffR wrote:
It will never occur to him that he has been evaluated and rejected by the VAST majority of the voters.
Is that why he won in a landslide in the polling last night.
[quote]ss wrote:
Thank you for comparing Iraq with post WW2 Germany. Tells us something about your perception of reality.[/quote]
ss,
Thanks for being so blinded by unthinking, nationalistic german pride that you are unable to see that germany in 1945 may have been in WORSE shape politically, economically, and physically than Iraq circa 2003.
Therefore, lixy’s assertion that any country being occupied cannot succeed, is factually incorrect.
I know, you guys do this when we compare brutal dictators to your homegrown terror.
You’d rather not talk about it.
Got it.
JeffR
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
JeffR wrote:
lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing.
“Pulling a France” doesn’t apply here. It’s not like Iraqis have invaded Washington and people are asking you to drop the guns and surrender. The only “pull” France did that could apply to this case is their withdrawal from Algeria and other colonies.
I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.
Signed,
Germany and Japan Post-World War II.
JeffR
What other choice did they have? We held the “economic carrot” over them.[/quote]
Iraq has a choice and has consistently asked the U.S. to stay. In fact, they’ve gone so far as to have their elected representatives lobby our Congress.
JeffR
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
America, the Great Liberator!!
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…you mean…America, the Great Occupier.
I like RP cause he isn’t “owned” like the top tier Repubs and Dems. He follows the Constitution(remember the document this country was founded and built on). What is not to like about him, unless you like living in a corporate controlled environment where your activities are monitored.
[quote]lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing.
“Pulling a France” doesn’t apply here. It’s not like Iraqis have invaded Washington and people are asking you to drop the guns and surrender. The only “pull” France did that could apply to this case is their withdrawal from Algeria and other colonies.
I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.[/quote]
France surrenders at the drop of a hat. Children there are taught from birth how to walk with their hands over their heads. Standard issue for the French military is a white hankie.
Western Europe has gotten along quite well with the U.S. presence, until the Haight-Ashbury all had to get a fucking job.
Japan and the US still enjoy a wonderful relationship.
S. Korea functions quite well under our protection.
Iraq, once they get settled, will be the same as the others.
Now go defend the French somewhere else. I guess birds of a feather do flock together.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I watched the debates tonight - and it became blatantly obvious why all the cradle-to-grave socialists have such a hard-on for Paul.
He wants out of Iraq.
So much for intellectual honesty.
Most Americans do.
So what?
Wanting out and pulling a France aren’t the same thing. [/quote]
I think surrendering to them would probably go to far…
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
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I am really amazed at the morons who think that any population has a chance of getting along with foreign troops on its soil.
Germany, Japan, Italy…[/quote]
Ok. I should have been more specific. But comparing Iraq to Japan? C’mon!
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Iraq has a choice and has consistently asked the U.S. to stay. In fact, they’ve gone so far as to have their elected representatives lobby our Congress.
JeffR
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How nice of them to ask our government to disregard our Constitution–and we blindly follow.
So the choice is to be dictated to by: Iraq–NOPE; al Qaeda–NOPE; the Constitution–HELL YES.
We (the American people) owe Iraq nothing. You neocons will be digging into your pockets for all eternity attempting to buy your way out of hell–may you rot there.
Have fun with that.