[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
The Ron Paul I Know - Audio Interview with Lew Rockwell
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/014833.html
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Excellent interview. I listened to the entire interview in which LHR talks about the libertarian philosophy. I highly recommend it to everyone.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Things are going to be picking up again shortly. We’ve got a Texas Straw Poll on Sept 1 and the next debate on the 5th in New Hampshire.
I was about to say that Ron had better win the Texas Poll, but it looks as though it’s a delegate-only vote. That could make things tough for him. I expect Fred will put on a strong showing. Let’s hope RP is not far behind.
Ft. Worth, Tx: Straw Poll, September 1st
The Ron Paul I Know - Audio Interview with Lew Rockwell
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/014833.html
No word yet on the other participants in the debate. Post if you come across it.
Let’s see (looks at the calendar)…September, November, December and then in January we’ll see the New Hampshire Primary and the Iowa Caucus votes and then on to the Florida primary on January 29. Ron Paul will take a huge beating in those three. He’ll do his best in NH, but it won’t mean much as he won’t come close to winning. Do you think he’ll stay around for more beatings after that?
Yea…he probably will. South Carolina is scheduled for February 2nd…he’ll get crushed in that one.
Hmm…It’s going to be quite a primary season. Of course it will be shorter for Paul than the more serious candidates.[/quote]
Buchanan already showed in '96 that a paleocon could win both Iowa and NH. And he didn’t have the internet, unlike Ron Paul.
In Ron We Trust
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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
2. Your second point about the Internet further shows your naivete. You are so caught up in this whole Internet phenomenon that you’ve failed to realize that the Internet can only help if you are already a credible candidate. And in order to be a credible candidate you need all of the things that I’ve been posting about which Paul lacks.
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Your logic fails: by your statement above I wouldn’t know about Ron Paul unless I knew to search his name. I had no idea about Ron Paul until I saw a T-Nation Forum post about him…before he even declared his candidacy. So how did I learn his name? The same way the other millions of people are hearing about him.
He has already proved you wrong because he has gained more support than any other candidate over the internet. Do not dismiss that…for surely that is a more naive stance to take. You must be really old to not understand its importance as a viable information exchange and communication tool. People are not looking to big media anymore for their news.
You post about what he lacks, but he lacks none of those things. He has an infinite amount of money just purely from instantaneous volunteerism–that is free labor and costs nothing compared to the millions already spent by the other “top tier” candidates. This is exactly the point he makes about the free market that many dismiss–again, proving he is right and those that oppose him are wrong.
From all the testimony I have read from those that have met him in person he lacks no charisma…in fact, that isn’t even a concern for most people. To hear the man speak is to know real honesty and character. I cannot say the same thing for any of the other puppets.
Of the declared candidates Ron Paul is NUMBER ONE for average poll wins at 7.24 (weighted by order of finish). Fred Thompson is at 8.00 and Romney at 6.86. Giuliani is less than 4. Ron Paul and Romney are Tied with 16 top 3 finishes out of 22 total polls competed in. Fred Thomson has 14 out of 21 top 3 finishes.
I based these statistics on running results posted on http://www.LewRockwell.com.[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
From all the testimony I have read from those that have met him in person he lacks no charisma…in fact, that isn’t even a concern for most people. [/quote]
Yep. Bush Jr. set the bar awfully low.
Mick28 why are you so obsessed with Ron Paul’s limited chance of success? Did somebody named Ron rape you when you were little?
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
My logic fails?
You just substantiated my point.
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Yes. It fails. Your point was that the internet doesn’t matter and have stated so numerous times. You are obviously wrong because this is where the dialog is happening.
ok. Quit it. You aren’t making any advances with this argument and since I am not going to tell you my age and since you haven’t stated your this point is moot – besides this you would get circles run around you by so called teenagers that you call naive – especially the ones I teach.
Statistically speaking he has more support than any of the declared GOP candidates–just in the polls–I already stated that. If you want me to show you the math I’ll have one of my “teenage” students email it to you. True–he isn’t exactly #1; Thompson is ahead by 11% margin.
Yes. Economics 101.
There are no legitimate polls…remember. They are all flawed GOP resitered polls.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
(Just a thought: In a way talking to one of these Paulies is really no different than trying to deprogram someone who has been indoctrinated into a cult…no really…I think it would go just about the same way)
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No worse than the damned neocons. At least these guys aren’t (yet) trying to exercise revisionism to recast their failures as successes!
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
mstott25 wrote:
Mick28 why are you so obsessed with Ron Paul’s limited chance of success? Did somebody named Ron rape you when you were little?
Wow that was funny…
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we’re all here for you bro.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
You’re starting to sound like a retard…sorry.
Please I beg you to stop talking like a retard…
It’s official…you’re retarded!
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It’s official - you’re annoying and you need more words at your disposal.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Tell that to Gallup. Harris, Zogb legitimate pollsters who have polled the voters. And not coincidentally found Ron Paul in the 2% to 3% range.
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They only poll registered republicans with land lines. Now go ask the rest of the population.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Now I’m clear, you think that Pauls volunteers are more important and in fact can replace the kajillions of dollars being raised by the legitimate candidates. [/quote]
Now you’re calling Ron “illegitimate”?
Wow.