[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
To put things in perspective this is the type of shit that makes us science haters want abortion to be illegal. [/quote]
The word “science” comes from the Latin word for “knowledge”.
Why would you hate knowledge?[/quote]
I don’t, lol, it was a reference to what our British friend wrote earlier in the thread. I love science.
Of course Eve was a redhead!
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Wait. Never mind. I think I know the answer to that.[/quote]
Those apples look sweet. Wasn’t it actually a pomegranate tree or something in the correct translation?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Wait. Never mind. I think I know the answer to that.[/quote]
Those apples look sweet. Wasn’t it actually a pomegranate tree or something in the correct translation?[/quote]
I believe you’re thinking of Persephone in the underworld.
Different myth.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Wait. Never mind. I think I know the answer to that.[/quote]
Those apples look sweet. Wasn’t it actually a pomegranate tree or something in the correct translation?[/quote]
I believe you’re thinking of Persephone in the underworld.
Different myth.[/quote]
No I’m thinking of the forbidden fruit. It may not have been pomegranate but it wasn’t apple.
^^ Am not endorsing that site. Just picked a google link about the forbidden fruit.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Wait. Never mind. I think I know the answer to that.[/quote]
Those apples look sweet. Wasn’t it actually a pomegranate tree or something in the correct translation?[/quote]
I believe you’re thinking of Persephone in the underworld.
Different myth.[/quote]
No I’m thinking of the forbidden fruit. It may not have been pomegranate but it wasn’t apple.
^^ Am not endorsing that site. Just picked a google link about the forbidden fruit.[/quote]
Or possibly something along these lines.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Wait. Never mind. I think I know the answer to that.[/quote]
Those apples look sweet. Wasn’t it actually a pomegranate tree or something in the correct translation?[/quote]
I believe you’re thinking of Persephone in the underworld.
Different myth.[/quote]
No I’m thinking of the forbidden fruit. It may not have been pomegranate but it wasn’t apple.
^^ Am not endorsing that site. Just picked a google link about the forbidden fruit.[/quote]
Or possibly something along these lines.[/quote]
In the fevered imagination of Timothy Leary or Terence McKenna when the “machine elves” were talking to him but in terms of historicity it has about as much going for it as the founders being pot smokers.
Actually there’s a lot of folk who think it was pomegranate.
http://m.thenational.ae/lifestyle/food/pomegranates-are-the-real-forbidden-fruit
Pomegranates were very sacred to the Hebrews and decorated Solomon’s Temple and many Jewish artefacts. Even to this day Jewish trinkets often have pomegranates on them.
Not that it matters, SexMachine, but do you believe that there were at one time actually, literally, two deciduous trees growing somewhere in Mesopotamia, the fruit of one conferring immortality upon its eater, and the other conferring the power to discern good from evil?
Because I’ve read about this one tree, growing in the garden of the Hesperides in the southern Iberian peninsula, on which grew golden apples that similarly conferred immortality, and I wonder if you think they might have been the same or similar species.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Not that it matters, SexMachine, but do you believe that there were at one time actually, literally, two deciduous trees growing somewhere in Mesopotamia, the fruit of one conferring immortality upon its eater, and the other conferring the power to discern good from evil?
Because I’ve read about this one tree, growing in the garden of the Hesperides in the southern Iberian peninsula, on which grew golden apples that similarly conferred immortality, and I wonder if you think they might have been the same or similar species. [/quote]
Well, I’m not sure about the historicity of the bible but I have commented previously about the similar themes and stories of different people’s founding myths. This is perennialists see much significance in. The deluge story for example appears in Sumerian and even Chinese mythology in very similar form.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
No I’m thinking of the forbidden fruit. It may not have been pomegranate but it wasn’t apple…[/quote]
We don’t know which fruit it was. Coulda even been the ancient Varqberry.[/quote]
Then how do we know which one to avoid?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
In the fevered imagination of Timothy Leary or Terence McKenna when the “machine elves” were talking to him but in terms of historicity it has about as much going for it as the founders being pot smokers.[/quote]
I beg your pardon. I had forgotten we were discussing whether the fruit recommended to the first human woman by a talking snake–under the pretence that it would give her divine powers–might or might not have been a pomegranate.
I agree: one must not lose sight of historicity in these matters.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Who told you the Garden of Eden was in Mesopotamia? [/quote]
Whoever wrote Genesis 2.
Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground–trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin and onyx are also there.) The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
Trivia question: what is the region in southwest Asia called, that contains the Tigris and Euphrates rivers?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Actually there’s a lot of folk who think it was pomegranate.
http://m.thenational.ae/lifestyle/food/pomegranates-are-the-real-forbidden-fruit
Pomegranates were very sacred to the Hebrews and decorated Solomon’s Temple and many Jewish artefacts. Even to this day Jewish trinkets often have pomegranates on them.[/quote]
The Hebrews were also many generations removed. In fact, the Hebrews had absolutely no connection to Genesis 3 (besides the obvious genealogical ones) other than recording the events.[/quote]
Uh, yah but the Hebrews wrote the bible. And they really digged pomegranates and considered them sacred and part of the reason may be because that was the forbidden fruit. Surely you realise I know the Hebrews weren’t in the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve? Sheesh!