RNC 2012

[quote]groo wrote:

I think with his family’s history the bit about him not being asked to see his birth certificate was an appeal to that group at worst and hypocritical as hell at best.[/quote]

Well, to be honest, I feel like, because you don’t like him you are taking a joke way out context. The man is a money machine, not a jokester, he need to lay off the comedy.

I mean, I saw an Obama video where he joked about wanting to go around congress because he was having troble working with them, and the video went on to list all the ways that is illegal and call him a dictator. It was over the top reaction because the editor didn’t like Obama.

Same thing here.

It was a shit joke, and if more of the population understood taxes and PE he could joke about that too.

Agree with you on this. For sure.

[quote] You would never here a party position even near something like " we will enact legislation to stop all of our own companies from using child, slave or prison labor in addition to not engaging in any trade with countries that do allow these."
[/quote]

Here is my problem with this, and I have hyjacked the shit out of this thread, lol, but:

Look what happened during the industrial revolution and the rise of the worker’s union. Look at the good unions used to do for the people.

These poor people in other countries now have the opportunity to break out from their situation in much the same mannor. These jobs give them the spark of liberty, it is up to them to turn it into flames.

[quote]groo wrote:

I disagree with your statement one. I also disagree that he is a disgrace to the office. [/quote]

Then you’re proud of:

  1. 42 straight months of unemployment over 8%.

  2. 100 million people on some form of government assistance.

  3. An almost 40% in the number of people on food stamps.

  4. Obama raising the debt to 16 trillion dollars, 4 trillion of which he has done in only four years.

  5. The biggest take over by government of 1/6 of the economy with Obamacare.

  6. Obama running the dirtiest campaign of any sitting President in modern times. NOT Talking about issues but attacking his opponent personally.

You must be so proud to be a supporter of the second worst modern day President.

On the topic of race:

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/29/despicable-mia-loves-wikipedia-page-hijacked-by-racist-left-wing-trolls/

Lets see if John Stewart reports this…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
On the topic of race:

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/29/despicable-mia-loves-wikipedia-page-hijacked-by-racist-left-wing-trolls/

Lets see if John Stewart reports this…[/quote]

You mean that shill for the democratic party. Also the place where most ages 18 to 24 year olds get their news?

And many wonder why some in that particular age group post nonsense here on PWI forum.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
On the topic of race:

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/29/despicable-mia-loves-wikipedia-page-hijacked-by-racist-left-wing-trolls/

Lets see if John Stewart reports this…[/quote]

The things that were said about Mia Loves are disgusting. People are fucking ignorant. I cannot wait until this election is over. So much BS is being said right now by the Obama campaign and it’s sickening. There’s more gossiping and lies in politics than between high-school girls.

Here ya go, ZEB.

CS

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
On the topic of race:

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/29/despicable-mia-loves-wikipedia-page-hijacked-by-racist-left-wing-trolls/

Lets see if John Stewart reports this…[/quote]

The things that were said about Mia Loves are disgusting. People are fucking ignorant. I cannot wait until this election is over. So much BS is being said right now by the Obama campaign and it’s sickening. There’s more gossiping and lies in politics than between high-school girls.[/quote]

I tend to agree.

I, however, don’t want to project the actions of a few over the whole party.

I mean, it isn’t like there is a democrat war on black women. :wink:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Here ya go, ZEB.

CS[/quote]

No offense, but fuck fat check if they are going to bend basic english to defend Obama, a fucking Harvard Grad.

I am tired, beyond belief that people will, out of one side of their mouth say that he is such a great speaker, brilliant, and a god damn harvard grad and a lawyer, yet he “miss spoke”.

Fuck
That
Noise

How anyone that has owned a business, lost a business, or has any dreams of making a good living in this country can get behind that statement is beyond me.

The god damn taxes, infrastruture and schools in the country were built off of business, starting with Hamilton, won the war for the North and on until today.

Business built America, the government holds it back.

edit: build v built

In other news Rand Paul killed it, and said pretty much what I just did above.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
In other news Rand Paul killed it, and said pretty much what I just did above.[/quote]

Yes, yes he did. I thought Paul Ryan did pretty well.

CS

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Here ya go, ZEB.

CS[/quote]

No offense, but fuck fat check if they are going to bend basic english to defend Obama, a fucking Harvard Grad.

I am tired, beyond belief that people will, out of one side of their mouth say that he is such a great speaker, brilliant, and a god damn harvard grad and a lawyer, yet he “miss spoke”.

Fuck
That
Noise

How anyone that has owned a business, lost a business, or has any dreams of making a good living in this country can get behind that statement is beyond me.

The god damn taxes, infrastruture and schools in the country were built off of business, starting with Hamilton, won the war for the North and on until today.

Business built America, the government holds it back.

edit: build v built[/quote]

You see, now you’re just going all non sequitur on me. Despite what you’re assuming Factcheck.org isn’t a leftist website - they’re completely unbiased.

CS

People are pretty fired up, I wonder if Obama can match this much enthusiasm.

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Despite what you’re assuming Factcheck.org isn’t a leftist website - they’re completely unbiased.

CS[/quote]

No one is completely unbiased, but I hear you.

But I’m sorry. I will go to my grave knowing full well Obama said what he said, as he said it. And it certainly wasn’t taken out of context. People understand the context, very much so. There is no one that will deny that what he started out saying, and what people are trying to tell you he actually meant to say is true and valid. Not even that inflammatory. yes, we live in a society, it has many moving parts, yes we contribute to working parts and many others benefit from the contribution of everyone.

But the man said “you didn’t build that”. And god damn it, that is what he meant to say.

Obama is anything but stupid, and did anything but misspeak. He knew what he was saying, and knew damn well that how he was saying it was going to be perceived. He knew conservatives and republicans would flip, and knew leftist, progressives, poor people and Democrats would eat it up and defend him to the hilt. You want to know why? Because it brings everyone to an equal playing field. It makes people feel better about themselves, and it changes the false sense of entitlement they have, and know is wrong, into a sense of justified entitlement.

It was, and always will be, a statement made to strengthen the collective, and get dipshits on facebook to type “let them eat cake”. He wanted to fundamentally change America, and people are too busy burning incense in his name to notice, it isn’t for the better.

Like every burnt out hippy, he thinks his form of state control is better for the people.

I have been wrong about a lot of things in my life, made plenty of mistakes, and acted a fool. I’m not ivy league, I’m not rich, and I still have a lot to learn. But I’m pretty sure fact check might be taking their own emotion and the idea that a president to be that bold as to come out and say something like that has to be a mistake too far and have this one wrong.

Obama said what he said, how he wanted to say it, and knows how to use prepositions. I am frightened and saddened so many people are blinded by the “it couldn’t be” or the “it couldn’t happen here” mentality to turn a blind eye to it.

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Here ya go, ZEB.

CS[/quote]

Someone should be checking fact check. I find your source biased. Do you know how is running “fact check”?

And I’ll tell you the same thing that I told gro. You are getting bent out of shape, for example, over the Romney team saying that women were hit hard with job losses over the past four years (which is true by the way). But the Obama team calling Romney a murderer and going after him personally (and not touting the Presidents record) doesn’t seem to bother you one bit.

Funny how that works…

Is Romney a murderer?..quick go run to fact check… LOL

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Here ya go, ZEB.

CS[/quote]

No offense, but fuck fat check if they are going to bend basic english to defend Obama, a fucking Harvard Grad.

I am tired, beyond belief that people will, out of one side of their mouth say that he is such a great speaker, brilliant, and a god damn harvard grad and a lawyer, yet he “miss spoke”.

Fuck
That
Noise

How anyone that has owned a business, lost a business, or has any dreams of making a good living in this country can get behind that statement is beyond me.

The god damn taxes, infrastruture and schools in the country were built off of business, starting with Hamilton, won the war for the North and on until today.

Business built America, the government holds it back.

edit: build v built[/quote]

You see, now you’re just going all non sequitur on me. Despite what you’re assuming Factcheck.org isn’t a leftist website - they’re completely unbiased.

CS[/quote]

Says…you?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Despite what you’re assuming Factcheck.org isn’t a leftist website - they’re completely unbiased.

CS[/quote]

No one is completely unbiased, but I hear you.

But I’m sorry. I will go to my grave knowing full well Obama said what he said, as he said it. And it certainly wasn’t taken out of context. People understand the context, very much so. There is no one that will deny that what he started out saying, and what people are trying to tell you he actually meant to say is true and valid. Not even that inflammatory. yes, we live in a society, it has many moving parts, yes we contribute to working parts and many others benefit from the contribution of everyone.

But the man said “you didn’t build that”. And god damn it, that is what he meant to say.

Obama is anything but stupid, and did anything but misspeak. He knew what he was saying, and knew damn well that how he was saying it was going to be perceived. He knew conservatives and republicans would flip, and knew leftist, progressives, poor people and Democrats would eat it up and defend him to the hilt. You want to know why? Because it brings everyone to an equal playing field. It makes people feel better about themselves, and it changes the false sense of entitlement they have, and know is wrong, into a sense of justified entitlement.

It was, and always will be, a statement made to strengthen the collective, and get dipshits on facebook to type “let them eat cake”. He wanted to fundamentally change America, and people are too busy burning incense in his name to notice, it isn’t for the better.

Like every burnt out hippy, he thinks his form of state control is better for the people.

I have been wrong about a lot of things in my life, made plenty of mistakes, and acted a fool. I’m not ivy league, I’m not rich, and I still have a lot to learn. But I’m pretty sure fact check might be taking their own emotion and the idea that a president to be that bold as to come out and say something like that has to be a mistake too far and have this one wrong.

Obama said what he said, how he wanted to say it, and knows how to use prepositions. I am frightened and saddened so many people are blinded by the “it couldn’t be” or the “it couldn’t happen here” mentality to turn a blind eye to it.[/quote]

We know what he said because he says things like it all the time.

In 2008 when he slapped Joe the Plumber on the back and said “I know you’re doing well I just want to spread it around a bit…”

I know where he’s coming from every time he has a camera in his face and he wags his finger and says the rich are not paying their fair share of taxes. When in fact the top 1% pay 37% of all federal income tax. And the top 10% pay 70% of all taxes. I guess in a way Obama is correct the rich are not paying their fair share - they’re paying FAR MORE! But that’s not enough he wants even more.

And his actions speak even louder than his words. When first elected he had both houses of congress democrat. Was there a major push to fix the economy? No. But he worked around the clock to pass a 2,500 page bill that no one read and America (by 65%) did not want, national health care.

When he said that he wanted to “fundamentally change the US government” and lap dogs like Chris Matthews had a chill run up his leg. Many of us knew what he was really talking about and…we don’t like it.

We all know what Obama wants he’s said it over and over again. And when possible he’s followed it up with his actions.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
People are pretty fired up, I wonder if Obama can match this much enthusiasm.[/quote]

While he is a good communicator (no Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan) people already knows who he and Biden are. I’m sure he’ll get much of his base fired up but over all I think that a convention style event helps Romney/Ryan more than Obama/Biden.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
We’ll see how it goes. I’m sure they’ll find some way to fuck it up. The republicans always do.

CS[/quote]

And this delightful bit

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Obviously those sources are untrusted since the address does not contain foxnews.com[/quote]

Screeching tires…the rat-a-tat-tat of silliandy’s gun… and the pusssy drive by shooter speeds off into the night.

[quote]JEATON wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
We’ll see how it goes. I’m sure they’ll find some way to fuck it up. The republicans always do.

CS[/quote]

And this delightful bit

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Obviously those sources are untrusted since the address does not contain foxnews.com[/quote]

Screeching tires…the rat-a-tat-tat of silliandy’s gun… and the pusssy drive by shooter speeds off into the night.
[/quote]

Yet you consistently do the same thing, pussy.

Recap last evenings RNC

Pawlenty-Funny and spot on

Ryan-He performed with great skill a very moving and well written speech. I sometimes wonder how he can be that good never having addressed crowds anywhere near that size. I know his speech ticked off mister chill up the leg Matthews. “I thought that speech fell short, he was partisan…bla bla bla…” Can you imagine being partisan at a REPUBLICAN CONVENTION! What a knit wit.

Rice-Incredibly knowledgeable.

Any thoughts on these and other speakers?