I bought from AG-GUYS good service and fast. But yes I think a little over priced.
I bought Arimidex and Nolva BOTH OF WHICH WERE FLAVORED!!! So no dissrespect Hooker, but by your own theory of why flavored chems are bad no one should buy from AG-Guys right?
P.S. I did say the same thing in your last post about why flavored chems are bad and it was just skipped over with no response. Just curious if that was by accident or intentional?
[quote]1fastford wrote:
I bought from AG-GUYS good service and fast. But yes I think a little over priced.
I bought Arimidex and Nolva BOTH OF WHICH WERE FLAVORED!!! So no dissrespect Hooker, but by your own theory of why flavored chems are bad no one should buy from AG-Guys right?
P.S. I did say the same thing in your last post about why flavored chems are bad and it was just skipped over with no response. Just curious if that was by accident or intentional?[/quote]
I don’t really read all of the threads I post in, after I’ve posted, on a constant basis to be honest.
AG-Guys doesn’t sell flavored chems, to my knowledge (nor have they ever). I’ve never heard otherwise. I ordered from them 3 years ago and last month, and it was never flavored.
[quote]1fastford wrote:
I bought from AG-GUYS good service and fast. But yes I think a little over priced.
I bought Arimidex and Nolva BOTH OF WHICH WERE FLAVORED!!! So no dissrespect Hooker, but by your own theory of why flavored chems are bad no one should buy from AG-Guys right?
P.S. I did say the same thing in your last post about why flavored chems are bad and it was just skipped over with no response. Just curious if that was by accident or intentional?[/quote]
Are you sure they were flavored? Keep in mind burning is not an actual flavor.
burning is not an actual flavor? thanks,that really makes me look forward to using there producs!
[quote]Zell959 wrote:
Keep in mind burning is not an actual flavor.[/quote]
LMAO
thanks for everyone’s replies. and thanks Anthony for the link to the article you did a while back on T-Nation. as i really couldn’t wait any longer i went ahead and made an order. hopefully i’m as happy with there products as everyone else seems to be. if anyone else has anything else to say i would still like to hear it. thanks.
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Is IBE nutrition a subsidiary of ChemOne or a separate entity?
Rick, Anthony, David and Reuben (the four people who are listed as ChemOne’s staff) . [/quote]
what exactly is the point of listing a bunch of names. regardless of accuracy it would appear to be an implied threat, and would not be a great idea to make me believe that i had something to worry about. i tend to be preemptive about such things, but i really don’t want to play your game.
let’s see…idiot, or liar?. because i know you are not a stupid man, i’ll go with liar, just spreading more poisen, insulting all who read your lies as if you just expect them to believe you. i am the only one of ChemOne’s staff that has ever been remotely related to IBE. i am a supermod on there forum and have been since the begginning, starting my own company was no reason to desert them.
chemone made one raw purchase of one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
[quote]ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
[/quote]
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.[/quote]
You have heard wrong. We bought a shit load of his product back when we had an agreement that we would be his exclusive distributors. We have emails to that affect. Our mistake was taking someone at their word.
Anyhow - we haven’t sold all of that huge purchase, and we will continue to sell it until we are sold out. He can’t refuse to allow us to sell something he’s already taken money for.
We have no claims on our website that I am aware of. We just sell the product that we paid for. You need to talk to someone besides Carlito if you want to get the truth.
Which hgoes to show the limit of your knowledge on this topic. I can show you the paypal reciept where we bought the shit way before Carlito decided to become a hooker whore.
[quote]I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
[/quote]
I just did. There is nothing to reconcile. We are not making anything with Carlito’s brand on it. Anyone that says that is a fucking liar. Why would we make and manufacture something with his worthless name on it if we could put our name on it?
But there is no more relationship with him and ChemOne. We are just selling off what we have already bought from the guy. You do understand that, no?
nothing like a good,old-fashioned pissing match…
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
[/quote]
you know better. he made a deal with us long ago. the product is in the same packaging with the same label because it is the original product.
for the record, after he became your FRIEND he still offered to sell targex to us…after i was done laughing, i turned him down flat. so this is not a case of him refusing to sell to us. it’s a case of him breaking a contract, and me telling him that we were done.
why would we use his name? he’s not that well known. the Gacid will be easy to improve upon and peptide labs are everywhere. we will be carrying american made peptides with full testing and documentation, while you mark up chinese peptides of questionable origin to some astronomical price.
i can’t wait to see the price on targex
[quote]ChemOne wrote:
Anthony Roberts wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
you know better. he made a deal with us long ago. the product is in the same packaging with the same label because it is the original product.
for the record, after he became your bitch he still offered to sell targex to us…after i was done laughing, i turned him down flat. so this is not a case of him refusing to sell to us. it’s a case of him breaking a contract, and me telling him that we were done.
why would we use his name? he’s not that well known. the Gacid will be easy to improve upon and peptide labs are everywhere. we will be carrying american made peptides with full testing and documentation, while you mark up chinese peptides of questionable origin to some astronomical price.
i can’t wait to see the price on targex[/quote]
Hey Chaos, I would not know about being a “bitch” I never spent time in prison and got assraped, did you? - you staretd the insults and I will go along…
Ag Guys never mentioned or asked me not to sell to anyone, they do not care who else I sell targeX too see…they are not like you when we started this deal , you said to me you wanted to be the only distributor and not to sell to anyone especially the Ag Guys, rememeber?
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in , you can still buy from me of you want to, do you? But I want to sell to others too and make more money, who wouldn’t? I got a family and no health insurance so i pay my wife’s meds and docs bills every month! she is bipolar just so you know and is expensive.
No need for insults!
Carlito
[quote]Carlito wrote:
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in[/quote]
See hooker? We were not forbidden to sell anything. Who told you that anyhow?
Carlito - read the damn thread. Hooker brought you into this. SO bitch at him. You really need to get your facts straight before you start telling different versions of the same story. Kinda makes you look like a liar.
all we’re missing is william llewellyn and we’ll have a grudge match for the ages.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Carlito wrote:
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in
See hooker? We were not forbidden to sell anything. Who told you that anyhow?
Carlito - read the damn thread. Hooker brought you into this. SO bitch at him. You really need to get your facts straight before you start telling different versions of the same story. Kinda makes you look like a liar.
[/quote]
I am not a liar, like i said everything was fine until Chaos found out by my I wanted to sell to AG Guys then he said i could not because I gave him my word and so on…the way I see I do not eat from a verbal agreement and i got to after my own period, I careless what anyone else thinks really ,my family comes first so there!
If I get banned form all boards or whaetver is alright I still going to make my money and BELEIVE ME is notgpoing to affect me in any way.
C
[quote]Carlito wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Carlito wrote:
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in
See hooker? We were not forbidden to sell anything. Who told you that anyhow?
Carlito - read the damn thread. Hooker brought you into this. SO bitch at him. You really need to get your facts straight before you start telling different versions of the same story. Kinda makes you look like a liar.
I am not a liar, like i said everything was fine until Chaos found out by my I wanted to sell to AG Guys then he said i could not because I gave him my word and so on…the way I see I do not eat from a verbal agreement and i got to after my own period, I careless what anyone else thinks really ,my family comes first so there!
If I get banned form all boards or whaetver is alright I still going to make my money and BELEIVE ME is notgpoing to affect me in any way.
C
[/quote]
You posted on WWBB that you had forbidden us from selling targex anymore. You also said that you thought it was pretty shitty for us to be making stuff and selling it with your labels on it.
That, my friend are two totally different versions that are in direct conflict with what you just said on this thread.
Maybe you don’t call that a lie. But if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck -
As for how it affects you - it matters not one bit to me. If you can sleep at night knowing the stories you have told and the promises you have broken - well - you will take to hooker’s world like a duck to water.
[quote]Carlito wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
Anthony Roberts wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
you know better. he made a deal with us long ago. the product is in the same packaging with the same label because it is the original product.
for the record, after he became your bitch he still offered to sell targex to us…after i was done laughing, i turned him down flat. so this is not a case of him refusing to sell to us. it’s a case of him breaking a contract, and me telling him that we were done.
why would we use his name? he’s not that well known. the Gacid will be easy to improve upon and peptide labs are everywhere. we will be carrying american made peptides with full testing and documentation, while you mark up chinese peptides of questionable origin to some astronomical price.
i can’t wait to see the price on targex
Hey Chaos, I would not know about being a “bitch” I never spent time in prison and got assraped, did you? - you staretd the insults and I will go along…
Ag Guys never mentioned or asked me not to sell to anyone, they do not care who else I sell targeX too see…they are not like you when we started this deal , you said to me you wanted to be the only distributor and not to sell to anyone especially the Ag Guys, rememeber?
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in , you can still buy from me of you want to, do you? But I want to sell to others too and make more money, who wouldn’t? I got a family and no health insurance so i pay my wife’s meds and docs bills every month! she is bipolar just so you know and is expensive.
No need for insults!
Carlito
[/quote]
brother, i appologize for useing the word bitch, when something else would have worked. i start seeing red when hooker starts spewing lies…as usual.
you do realize that you just made hooker look like the liar he is…right?
[quote]Carlito wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
Anthony Roberts wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
you know better. he made a deal with us long ago. the product is in the same packaging with the same label because it is the original product.
for the record, after he became your bitch he still offered to sell targex to us…after i was done laughing, i turned him down flat. so this is not a case of him refusing to sell to us. it’s a case of him breaking a contract, and me telling him that we were done.
why would we use his name? he’s not that well known. the Gacid will be easy to improve upon and peptide labs are everywhere. we will be carrying american made peptides with full testing and documentation, while you mark up chinese peptides of questionable origin to some astronomical price.
i can’t wait to see the price on targex
Hey Chaos, I would not know about being a “bitch” I never spent time in prison and got assraped, did you? - you staretd the insults and I will go along…
Ag Guys never mentioned or asked me not to sell to anyone, they do not care who else I sell targeX too see…they are not like you when we started this deal , you said to me you wanted to be the only distributor and not to sell to anyone especially the Ag Guys, rememeber?
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in , you can still buy from me of you want to, do you? But I want to sell to others too and make more money, who wouldn’t? I got a family and no health insurance so i pay my wife’s meds and docs bills every month! she is bipolar just so you know and is expensive.
No need for insults!
Carlito
[/quote]
who is telling you i am going to have you banned from boards? don’t you think i would have done it already? i don’t ban for personal reasons, i don’t ban my compitition, AG has (unpaid) banners on two or three of MY boards. you can’t get much more fair than that. the only reason they may be asked to leave is for nonpayment. i klnow hooker’s psuedonym on some of my boards, he or his IP haven’t been banned either…
Is alright, there is no need to get down and insulting each other or anyone for that matter.
I am not trying to make Hooker look like a liar at all,he is been helpful to me and maybe I misinformed him, I am a bit scattered brain sometimes and is only because i got more than one thing going in my head most of the times and lately I 've been very busy, I am producing 100 bottles of taregX this month and is taking a lot from me.
Hooker has just said what I told him on an email when I did tell him I still was seeing the “exclsuive agreement” statement on your website when it was not true and true at first you said you will still honor it even if I don’t honor my word, remember? I also told him that you agreed to use your name on your upcoming fat burning TDS and that is all i really wanted , so if anyone here meesed up it was me not him really, he is just saying what I told him.
Peace,
C
[quote]ChemOne wrote:
Carlito wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
Anthony Roberts wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
you know better. he made a deal with us long ago. the product is in the same packaging with the same label because it is the original product.
for the record, after he became your bitch he still offered to sell targex to us…after i was done laughing, i turned him down flat. so this is not a case of him refusing to sell to us. it’s a case of him breaking a contract, and me telling him that we were done.
why would we use his name? he’s not that well known. the Gacid will be easy to improve upon and peptide labs are everywhere. we will be carrying american made peptides with full testing and documentation, while you mark up chinese peptides of questionable origin to some astronomical price.
i can’t wait to see the price on targex
Hey Chaos, I would not know about being a “bitch” I never spent time in prison and got assraped, did you? - you staretd the insults and I will go along…
Ag Guys never mentioned or asked me not to sell to anyone, they do not care who else I sell targeX too see…they are not like you when we started this deal , you said to me you wanted to be the only distributor and not to sell to anyone especially the Ag Guys, rememeber?
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in , you can still buy from me of you want to, do you? But I want to sell to others too and make more money, who wouldn’t? I got a family and no health insurance so i pay my wife’s meds and docs bills every month! she is bipolar just so you know and is expensive.
No need for insults!
Carlito
brother, i appologize for useing the word bitch, when something else would have worked. i start seeing red when hooker starts spewing lies…as usual.
you do realize that you just made hooker look like the liar he is…right?[/quote]
Ok, I remember now…I did tell you once I won’t sell to you anymore remember? that is what I commented to Hooker that I was upset and I refused to sell more to you and maybe i left the part when I calmed down and I PMed you again telling you I can still sell to you but I will sell to others as well.
AG Guy does not pay for his banners?
Hmm…
C
[quote]ChemOne wrote:
Carlito wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
Anthony Roberts wrote:
ChemOne wrote:
one product from them, and we remain friendly. not everybody acts like your masters. there is still some honor amoung us, though i doubt you would recognize it when you saw it. the concepts of honesty and honor are so obviously lost on you.
c
Speaking of which, I have heard that you were carrying a topical agent, and which the company you were buying it from recently refused to allow you to carry.
I am further aware that you have refused to take down from your site the claims that you are still carrying that (original) product, when asked to do so by the guy who actually makes it.
I mean…to my knowledge you are still claiming to carry a particular product, when actually, you’re just using the name of the original, and selling a knock off.
I’m not sure how to reconcile those types of buisness dealings with the claim of being honorable. Can you enlighten me?
you know better. he made a deal with us long ago. the product is in the same packaging with the same label because it is the original product.
for the record, after he became your bitch he still offered to sell targex to us…after i was done laughing, i turned him down flat. so this is not a case of him refusing to sell to us. it’s a case of him breaking a contract, and me telling him that we were done.
why would we use his name? he’s not that well known. the Gacid will be easy to improve upon and peptide labs are everywhere. we will be carrying american made peptides with full testing and documentation, while you mark up chinese peptides of questionable origin to some astronomical price.
i can’t wait to see the price on targex
Hey Chaos, I would not know about being a “bitch” I never spent time in prison and got assraped, did you? - you staretd the insults and I will go along…
Ag Guys never mentioned or asked me not to sell to anyone, they do not care who else I sell targeX too see…they are not like you when we started this deal , you said to me you wanted to be the only distributor and not to sell to anyone especially the Ag Guys, rememeber?
Yes I offered you to keep selling TargeX if you wanted too I never said I would not STOP selling TargeX to you, you just got mad cause I wanted to expand my sales, i can copy and paste the PMs from WWBB which probably by the time I get there you will already have banned me,go ahead if you think that is a fair thing to do, If you got beef with AR I do nto care but do not bring my name in , you can still buy from me of you want to, do you? But I want to sell to others too and make more money, who wouldn’t? I got a family and no health insurance so i pay my wife’s meds and docs bills every month! she is bipolar just so you know and is expensive.
No need for insults!
Carlito
brother, i appologize for useing the word bitch, when something else would have worked. i start seeing red when hooker starts spewing lies…as usual.
you do realize that you just made hooker look like the liar he is…right?[/quote]