Replying to Trolls in PWI

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]
If I had said that Eastern Europe and Latin American had business cultures that were plagued by corruption would you have said that was racist?

You drew your own conclusion from the evidence given, I did not tell you that.
I wasn’t aware ‘facts’ were racist. I thought racism was predicated on advocating the superiority of your group over others.

Care to share what exactly was false or incorrect in my assertion? You have evidence that demonstrates otherwise?

You can attenmpt to discredit the validity of IQ as an accurate measure of intellect, but you cannot discredit the outcomes of the tests by region and race. These have been repeated many times to similar results.

I actually was being very racially sensitive in my community as despite the fact that the scores fall into the 70 IQ range of most subsaharan African nations, I gave them an 85 level to be functioning above the retard gradient.[/quote]

OK, if you must.

Firstly, in relation to your earlier assertion on African IQ, which was published in studies by Richard Lynn, has been rubbished by other ressearchers, as found in this article (Controversial study of African IQ levels is 'deeply flawed' | ScienceDaily), amongst others I’m sure. It doesn’t take much reading to see that Richard Lynn is widely considered a racist in the psychological community.

Interesting, also, that he considers St. Lucia, for example, to be near bottom in terms of IQ, but that tiny island of around 150,000 spawned two Nobel Prize winners, a feat which earned them the highest population:prizewinner ratio of any country on Earth for a long time. I believe they lost it last year, unfortunately. Hmm.

So your IQ assertions aren’t founded, as they are based on a flawed study by an inherently racist psychologist.

I’m naturally touchy about any person writing off Africa in the way that you mentioned, especially as I’m a black man, and pretty well educated, likely more so than you. I understand more than anybody else that Africa has some huge social issues. But come on dude. You’re saying you’d have a better time teaching dolphins to brush their teeth. That kind of tone suggests you’re trying to advocate the superiority of your own race above another…which, as a matter of fact, is racist, by your own definition.

You’re more than welcome to sharing your opinion on Africa, I’d just suggest that you stop basing your evidence for its problems on half baked studies which have already been rubbished by other psychologists, and that you drop your demeaning, clearly racist tone.[/quote]

Why havent anyone responded to this black gentleman who actually took the time to respond to a clearly racist and fascistoid poster( ronhyn )

[/quote]

Because A) the claim that Lynn is widely considered to be a racist is bogus, B) the fact that an area that has allegedly a relatively low IQ has two Nobel laureates is irrelevant C) Lynn has never really disputed that he used the tests that were available to him, warts and all and D) the claim that he was “rubbished” is an unfounded allegation.

I am not really interested in such a discussion, not only is it unlikely that it will be fruitful in any way, shape or form, it will also not entertain me in any way.

Ergo —> meh

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]
If I had said that Eastern Europe and Latin American had business cultures that were plagued by corruption would you have said that was racist?

You drew your own conclusion from the evidence given, I did not tell you that.
I wasn’t aware ‘facts’ were racist. I thought racism was predicated on advocating the superiority of your group over others.

Care to share what exactly was false or incorrect in my assertion? You have evidence that demonstrates otherwise?

You can attenmpt to discredit the validity of IQ as an accurate measure of intellect, but you cannot discredit the outcomes of the tests by region and race. These have been repeated many times to similar results.

I actually was being very racially sensitive in my community as despite the fact that the scores fall into the 70 IQ range of most subsaharan African nations, I gave them an 85 level to be functioning above the retard gradient.[/quote]

OK, if you must.

Firstly, in relation to your earlier assertion on African IQ, which was published in studies by Richard Lynn, has been rubbished by other ressearchers, as found in this article (Controversial study of African IQ levels is 'deeply flawed' | ScienceDaily), amongst others I’m sure. It doesn’t take much reading to see that Richard Lynn is widely considered a racist in the psychological community.

Interesting, also, that he considers St. Lucia, for example, to be near bottom in terms of IQ, but that tiny island of around 150,000 spawned two Nobel Prize winners, a feat which earned them the highest population:prizewinner ratio of any country on Earth for a long time. I believe they lost it last year, unfortunately. Hmm.

So your IQ assertions aren’t founded, as they are based on a flawed study by an inherently racist psychologist.

I’m naturally touchy about any person writing off Africa in the way that you mentioned, especially as I’m a black man, and pretty well educated, likely more so than you. I understand more than anybody else that Africa has some huge social issues. But come on dude. You’re saying you’d have a better time teaching dolphins to brush their teeth. That kind of tone suggests you’re trying to advocate the superiority of your own race above another…which, as a matter of fact, is racist, by your own definition.

You’re more than welcome to sharing your opinion on Africa, I’d just suggest that you stop basing your evidence for its problems on half baked studies which have already been rubbished by other psychologists, and that you drop your demeaning, clearly racist tone.[/quote]

Why havent anyone responded to this black gentleman who actually took the time to respond to a clearly racist and fascistoid poster( ronhyn )

Read the end of this article, there are some rather revealing facts about how lynn disregarded test where blacks scored higher or the same as their white counterparts. Also some of the nations iq scores arent even tested on people who live in the nation they are suppose to measure. In short meaning that this is utter bullshit similar to historian revisionists who claims that the holocaust never happenend and so on. Ergo the entire premise( that african are retards according to some ) for the ongoing discussion is wrong.

[/quote]

There are some rather revealing facts?

Pray tell, where?

There is a report, on Wikipedia, that one of his peers claims that he disregarded studies that did not fit into his narrative.

That =/= fact

The further conclusions you seem to draw from that are even less connected to reality in any way, shape or form, in fact they are clinging to it with their fingertips.

Not that he could not be a racist, but I would be a tad more careful with the “facts” you find “interesting”.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]
If I had said that Eastern Europe and Latin American had business cultures that were plagued by corruption would you have said that was racist?

You drew your own conclusion from the evidence given, I did not tell you that.
I wasn’t aware ‘facts’ were racist. I thought racism was predicated on advocating the superiority of your group over others.

Care to share what exactly was false or incorrect in my assertion? You have evidence that demonstrates otherwise?

You can attenmpt to discredit the validity of IQ as an accurate measure of intellect, but you cannot discredit the outcomes of the tests by region and race. These have been repeated many times to similar results.

I actually was being very racially sensitive in my community as despite the fact that the scores fall into the 70 IQ range of most subsaharan African nations, I gave them an 85 level to be functioning above the retard gradient.[/quote]

OK, if you must.

Firstly, in relation to your earlier assertion on African IQ, which was published in studies by Richard Lynn, has been rubbished by other ressearchers, as found in this article (Controversial study of African IQ levels is 'deeply flawed' | ScienceDaily), amongst others I’m sure. It doesn’t take much reading to see that Richard Lynn is widely considered a racist in the psychological community.

Interesting, also, that he considers St. Lucia, for example, to be near bottom in terms of IQ, but that tiny island of around 150,000 spawned two Nobel Prize winners, a feat which earned them the highest population:prizewinner ratio of any country on Earth for a long time. I believe they lost it last year, unfortunately. Hmm.

So your IQ assertions aren’t founded, as they are based on a flawed study by an inherently racist psychologist.

I’m naturally touchy about any person writing off Africa in the way that you mentioned, especially as I’m a black man, and pretty well educated, likely more so than you. I understand more than anybody else that Africa has some huge social issues. But come on dude. You’re saying you’d have a better time teaching dolphins to brush their teeth. That kind of tone suggests you’re trying to advocate the superiority of your own race above another…which, as a matter of fact, is racist, by your own definition.

You’re more than welcome to sharing your opinion on Africa, I’d just suggest that you stop basing your evidence for its problems on half baked studies which have already been rubbished by other psychologists, and that you drop your demeaning, clearly racist tone.[/quote]

Why havent anyone responded to this black gentleman who actually took the time to respond to a clearly racist and fascistoid poster( ronhyn )

Read the end of this article, there are some rather revealing facts about how lynn disregarded test where blacks scored higher or the same as their white counterparts. Also some of the nations iq scores arent even tested on people who live in the nation they are suppose to measure. In short meaning that this is utter bullshit similar to historian revisionists who claims that the holocaust never happenend and so on. Ergo the entire premise( that african are retards according to some ) for the ongoing discussion is wrong.

[/quote]

There are some rather revealing facts?

Pray tell, where?

There is a report, on Wikipedia, that one of his peers claims that he disregarded studies that did not fit into his narrative.

That =/= fact

The further conclusions you seem to draw from that are even less connected to reality in any way, shape or form, in fact they are clinging to it with their fingertips.

Not that he could not be a racist, but I would be a tad more careful with the “facts” you find “interesting”.[/quote]

Wy dont you just find a source that proves that the article is wrong on the aspect about him being a biased resourcer nitpicking in what sources to use and even using bad “evidence” to defend his case? Instead of just stating it.

When thinking about it, science is a rather dialectic process and often what is regarded as a scientific truth is a consensus in the scientific community or its established as a new paradigm for the community. I then ask you: is He`s conclusion the consensus in today on this topic( intelligence and iq differences among races. )? Or is it a fringe theory waiting to maybe be accepted or debunked by the scientific community after further debate among scientists on the topic and further resource?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]
If I had said that Eastern Europe and Latin American had business cultures that were plagued by corruption would you have said that was racist?

You drew your own conclusion from the evidence given, I did not tell you that.
I wasn’t aware ‘facts’ were racist. I thought racism was predicated on advocating the superiority of your group over others.

Care to share what exactly was false or incorrect in my assertion? You have evidence that demonstrates otherwise?

You can attenmpt to discredit the validity of IQ as an accurate measure of intellect, but you cannot discredit the outcomes of the tests by region and race. These have been repeated many times to similar results.

I actually was being very racially sensitive in my community as despite the fact that the scores fall into the 70 IQ range of most subsaharan African nations, I gave them an 85 level to be functioning above the retard gradient.[/quote]

OK, if you must.

Firstly, in relation to your earlier assertion on African IQ, which was published in studies by Richard Lynn, has been rubbished by other ressearchers, as found in this article (Controversial study of African IQ levels is 'deeply flawed' | ScienceDaily), amongst others I’m sure. It doesn’t take much reading to see that Richard Lynn is widely considered a racist in the psychological community.

Interesting, also, that he considers St. Lucia, for example, to be near bottom in terms of IQ, but that tiny island of around 150,000 spawned two Nobel Prize winners, a feat which earned them the highest population:prizewinner ratio of any country on Earth for a long time. I believe they lost it last year, unfortunately. Hmm.

So your IQ assertions aren’t founded, as they are based on a flawed study by an inherently racist psychologist.

I’m naturally touchy about any person writing off Africa in the way that you mentioned, especially as I’m a black man, and pretty well educated, likely more so than you. I understand more than anybody else that Africa has some huge social issues. But come on dude. You’re saying you’d have a better time teaching dolphins to brush their teeth. That kind of tone suggests you’re trying to advocate the superiority of your own race above another…which, as a matter of fact, is racist, by your own definition.

You’re more than welcome to sharing your opinion on Africa, I’d just suggest that you stop basing your evidence for its problems on half baked studies which have already been rubbished by other psychologists, and that you drop your demeaning, clearly racist tone.[/quote]

Why havent anyone responded to this black gentleman who actually took the time to respond to a clearly racist and fascistoid poster( ronhyn )

[/quote]

Because A) the claim that Lynn is widely considered to be a racist is bogus, B) the fact that an area that has allegedly a relatively low IQ has two Nobel laureates is irrelevant C) Lynn has never really disputed that he used the tests that were available to him, warts and all and D) the claim that he was “rubbished” is an unfounded allegation.

I am not really interested in such a discussion, not only is it unlikely that it will be fruitful in any way, shape or form, it will also not entertain me in any way.

Ergo —> meh[/quote]

“Lynn has never really disputed that he used the tests that were available to him, warts and all”
If your research is declaring intellectual superiority between races, it better be infallible. You are after all making a claim of superiority in this case. Even the slightest error resulting in a skew can and does justify a ‘racism’ claim.

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[quote]florelius wrote:

I read it :slight_smile: it was a good post.

No doubt about that :slight_smile:

ps. Your argument troughout this thread have been solid.[/quote]

Thanks…

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]
If I had said that Eastern Europe and Latin American had business cultures that were plagued by corruption would you have said that was racist?

You drew your own conclusion from the evidence given, I did not tell you that.
I wasn’t aware ‘facts’ were racist. I thought racism was predicated on advocating the superiority of your group over others.

Care to share what exactly was false or incorrect in my assertion? You have evidence that demonstrates otherwise?

You can attenmpt to discredit the validity of IQ as an accurate measure of intellect, but you cannot discredit the outcomes of the tests by region and race. These have been repeated many times to similar results.

I actually was being very racially sensitive in my community as despite the fact that the scores fall into the 70 IQ range of most subsaharan African nations, I gave them an 85 level to be functioning above the retard gradient.[/quote]

OK, if you must.

Firstly, in relation to your earlier assertion on African IQ, which was published in studies by Richard Lynn, has been rubbished by other ressearchers, as found in this article (Controversial study of African IQ levels is 'deeply flawed' | ScienceDaily), amongst others I’m sure. It doesn’t take much reading to see that Richard Lynn is widely considered a racist in the psychological community.

Interesting, also, that he considers St. Lucia, for example, to be near bottom in terms of IQ, but that tiny island of around 150,000 spawned two Nobel Prize winners, a feat which earned them the highest population:prizewinner ratio of any country on Earth for a long time. I believe they lost it last year, unfortunately. Hmm.

So your IQ assertions aren’t founded, as they are based on a flawed study by an inherently racist psychologist.

I’m naturally touchy about any person writing off Africa in the way that you mentioned, especially as I’m a black man, and pretty well educated, likely more so than you. I understand more than anybody else that Africa has some huge social issues. But come on dude. You’re saying you’d have a better time teaching dolphins to brush their teeth. That kind of tone suggests you’re trying to advocate the superiority of your own race above another…which, as a matter of fact, is racist, by your own definition.

You’re more than welcome to sharing your opinion on Africa, I’d just suggest that you stop basing your evidence for its problems on half baked studies which have already been rubbished by other psychologists, and that you drop your demeaning, clearly racist tone.[/quote]

Why havent anyone responded to this black gentleman who actually took the time to respond to a clearly racist and fascistoid poster( ronhyn )

Read the end of this article, there are some rather revealing facts about how lynn disregarded test where blacks scored higher or the same as their white counterparts. Also some of the nations iq scores arent even tested on people who live in the nation they are suppose to measure. In short meaning that this is utter bullshit similar to historian revisionists who claims that the holocaust never happenend and so on. Ergo the entire premise( that african are retards according to some ) for the ongoing discussion is wrong.

[/quote]

There are some rather revealing facts?

Pray tell, where?

There is a report, on Wikipedia, that one of his peers claims that he disregarded studies that did not fit into his narrative.

That =/= fact

The further conclusions you seem to draw from that are even less connected to reality in any way, shape or form, in fact they are clinging to it with their fingertips.

Not that he could not be a racist, but I would be a tad more careful with the “facts” you find “interesting”.[/quote]

Wy dont you just find a source that proves that the article is wrong on the aspect about him being a biased resourcer nitpicking in what sources to use and even using bad “evidence” to defend his case? Instead of just stating it.

When thinking about it, science is a rather dialectic process and often what is regarded as a scientific truth is a consensus in the scientific community or its established as a new paradigm for the community. I then ask you: is He`s conclusion the consensus in today on this topic( intelligence and iq differences among races. )? Or is it a fringe theory waiting to maybe be accepted or debunked by the scientific community after further debate among scientists on the topic and further resource?

[/quote]

Well, if you must know, the consensus right now is that yes, there is indeed an IQ difference between “races”.

On average and this is important.

Also, you still dont get it.

The article still does not show that he was “biased”.

It reports a claim that he disregarded studies that did not fit into his narrative.

I imagine it would be very hard to show that he did it on purpose and even if some of the critiques were provable and well documented, they amount to “well, there might be a significant gap, but just not as wide as he claims”. Fair enough, but that does not take away from his argument that much while actually supporting it to some degree.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]
If I had said that Eastern Europe and Latin American had business cultures that were plagued by corruption would you have said that was racist?

You drew your own conclusion from the evidence given, I did not tell you that.
I wasn’t aware ‘facts’ were racist. I thought racism was predicated on advocating the superiority of your group over others.

Care to share what exactly was false or incorrect in my assertion? You have evidence that demonstrates otherwise?

You can attenmpt to discredit the validity of IQ as an accurate measure of intellect, but you cannot discredit the outcomes of the tests by region and race. These have been repeated many times to similar results.

I actually was being very racially sensitive in my community as despite the fact that the scores fall into the 70 IQ range of most subsaharan African nations, I gave them an 85 level to be functioning above the retard gradient.[/quote]

OK, if you must.

Firstly, in relation to your earlier assertion on African IQ, which was published in studies by Richard Lynn, has been rubbished by other ressearchers, as found in this article (Controversial study of African IQ levels is 'deeply flawed' | ScienceDaily), amongst others I’m sure. It doesn’t take much reading to see that Richard Lynn is widely considered a racist in the psychological community.

Interesting, also, that he considers St. Lucia, for example, to be near bottom in terms of IQ, but that tiny island of around 150,000 spawned two Nobel Prize winners, a feat which earned them the highest population:prizewinner ratio of any country on Earth for a long time. I believe they lost it last year, unfortunately. Hmm.

So your IQ assertions aren’t founded, as they are based on a flawed study by an inherently racist psychologist.

I’m naturally touchy about any person writing off Africa in the way that you mentioned, especially as I’m a black man, and pretty well educated, likely more so than you. I understand more than anybody else that Africa has some huge social issues. But come on dude. You’re saying you’d have a better time teaching dolphins to brush their teeth. That kind of tone suggests you’re trying to advocate the superiority of your own race above another…which, as a matter of fact, is racist, by your own definition.

You’re more than welcome to sharing your opinion on Africa, I’d just suggest that you stop basing your evidence for its problems on half baked studies which have already been rubbished by other psychologists, and that you drop your demeaning, clearly racist tone.[/quote]

Why havent anyone responded to this black gentleman who actually took the time to respond to a clearly racist and fascistoid poster( ronhyn )

[/quote]

Because A) the claim that Lynn is widely considered to be a racist is bogus, B) the fact that an area that has allegedly a relatively low IQ has two Nobel laureates is irrelevant C) Lynn has never really disputed that he used the tests that were available to him, warts and all and D) the claim that he was “rubbished” is an unfounded allegation.

I am not really interested in such a discussion, not only is it unlikely that it will be fruitful in any way, shape or form, it will also not entertain me in any way.

Ergo —> meh[/quote]

“Lynn has never really disputed that he used the tests that were available to him, warts and all”
If your research is declaring intellectual superiority between races, it better be infallible. You are after all making a claim of superiority in this case. Even the slightest error resulting in a skew can and does justify a ‘racism’ claim. [/quote]

Nonsense.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]

The average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is around 70.

That could be due to malnutrition, infectious diseases or, yes, it could be genetic.

This is, as far as we know, fact, and facts are rarely racist.

So, what do we do with nations that have the average IQ of an 11 year old boy. [/quote]

It has to be the lack of education

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]

The average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is around 70.

That could be due to malnutrition, infectious diseases or, yes, it could be genetic.

This is, as far as we know, fact, and facts are rarely racist.

So, what do we do with nations that have the average IQ of an 11 year old boy. [/quote]

It has to be the lack of education [/quote]

Alright, it just has to be.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
When you have a lack of Education in a region, it will drive the IQ level down. Kinda hard to focus on education when your childeren are being forced into being child soliders, and then hooked on Coke to keep them as such. This forces vast amounts of the population to spend time on focusing on aqquiring money and the means of escape, only to encounter similar forces when moved to a neighboring African country. The tryanny and atrocities that occur in Africa are Largely responsible for why most of the continent remains vastly undereducated.(This doesn’t even take into account the different tribes of Africa who still live similar to hundreds of years ago and are stubborn in accepting “modern ways.”) One of the most educated African Natives I met (And one of the smartest people I knew period.) Was my World CIV teacher. He spoke seven different languages fluently and was beaming with information. IT seems the African natives that move from the continent to another location in the world achieve the most success IQ and education-wise. Which inherently disproves the notion that African people are just plain stupid and there is nothing you can do to help them. Given enough resources, African people can be just as educated and smart, if not smarter than anybody in the world. Lack of infrastructure, rural, dangerous geographical areas, and selfish dictatorship government coruption are just more reasons why less violent nations in Africa are still just as statistically IQ deficient.

I studied this in Depth in my Politics of Africa class in college, which was the hardest class I ever took in my life. The hardest A I earned too. So instead of speaking out of my ass, I actually have education and research to back up my previous statement. Now as to why Africa remains in turmoil, and why it cannot pick itself up after years of slave trade and colonization remains up for debate.

BTW Rohnyn has had previous threads/statements with racist undertones.[/quote]

So, is the IQ due to culture or is this the culture that people with such an IQ build?

The truth is, you dont know.

Also, of course people who looked around and felt like getting the fuck out will be smarter than those that stayed.

That is neither here nor there.

A relatively low average IQ does not make a genius impossible, just less likely. [/quote]

Sure you know

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]The Londoner wrote:

So essentially, what you’re saying is that African people are inherently stupid?

Are you even minutely aware of how racist your comment is?[/quote]

The average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is around 70.

That could be due to malnutrition, infectious diseases or, yes, it could be genetic.

This is, as far as we know, fact, and facts are rarely racist.

So, what do we do with nations that have the average IQ of an 11 year old boy. [/quote]

It has to be the lack of education [/quote]

Alright, it just has to be. [/quote]

your right:)

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
When you have a lack of Education in a region, it will drive the IQ level down. Kinda hard to focus on education when your childeren are being forced into being child soliders, and then hooked on Coke to keep them as such. This forces vast amounts of the population to spend time on focusing on aqquiring money and the means of escape, only to encounter similar forces when moved to a neighboring African country. The tryanny and atrocities that occur in Africa are Largely responsible for why most of the continent remains vastly undereducated.(This doesn’t even take into account the different tribes of Africa who still live similar to hundreds of years ago and are stubborn in accepting “modern ways.”) One of the most educated African Natives I met (And one of the smartest people I knew period.) Was my World CIV teacher. He spoke seven different languages fluently and was beaming with information. IT seems the African natives that move from the continent to another location in the world achieve the most success IQ and education-wise. Which inherently disproves the notion that African people are just plain stupid and there is nothing you can do to help them. Given enough resources, African people can be just as educated and smart, if not smarter than anybody in the world. Lack of infrastructure, rural, dangerous geographical areas, and selfish dictatorship government coruption are just more reasons why less violent nations in Africa are still just as statistically IQ deficient.

I studied this in Depth in my Politics of Africa class in college, which was the hardest class I ever took in my life. The hardest A I earned too. So instead of speaking out of my ass, I actually have education and research to back up my previous statement. Now as to why Africa remains in turmoil, and why it cannot pick itself up after years of slave trade and colonization remains up for debate.

BTW Rohnyn has had previous threads/statements with racist undertones.[/quote]

So, is the IQ due to culture or is this the culture that people with such an IQ build?

The truth is, you dont know.

Also, of course people who looked around and felt like getting the fuck out will be smarter than those that stayed.

That is neither here nor there.

A relatively low average IQ does not make a genius impossible, just less likely. [/quote]

Sure you know
[/quote]