[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Forgive me, ill pick something a little more feminine next time. You’ll have to undertand, im trying to compensate for my micropenis…
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edit: nvm im ghey
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I won’t comment on a pit because I’ve never owned one, but a Boxer may be what you are looking for. Smaller than a rot. Super fun, athletic, great looking dogs, who are almost always great with all members of the family. I’ll never own a different breed. [/quote]
I’ve never owned a dog but can’t wait for the day I am able to get a Boxer.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I won’t comment on a pit because I’ve never owned one, but a Boxer may be what you are looking for. Smaller than a rot. Super fun, athletic, great looking dogs, who are almost always great with all members of the family. I’ll never own a different breed. [/quote]
I have a Boxer/pit.
God created the best dog on Earth out of that.
I had a pit-akita mix when I was a kid. It was an awesome dog, extremely well tempered, never attacked people, cats or other dogs.
I do not think it is the dog breed, but the environment it grows up in, which determine if it will be violent.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I won’t comment on a pit because I’ve never owned one, but a Boxer may be what you are looking for. Smaller than a rot. Super fun, athletic, great looking dogs, who are almost always great with all members of the family. I’ll never own a different breed. [/quote]
I am considering a boxer as well. The main reason pit is the front runner at the moment is because i know someone who has a litter right now, 4 weeks old.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I won’t comment on a pit because I’ve never owned one, but a Boxer may be what you are looking for. Smaller than a rot. Super fun, athletic, great looking dogs, who are almost always great with all members of the family. I’ll never own a different breed. [/quote]
I am considering a boxer as well. The main reason pit is the front runner at the moment is because i know someone who has a litter right now, 4 weeks old. [/quote]
Whatever you pick, I wish you the same love and joy we get out of our Boxers. Good luck!
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
My main concern is how will a pitbull be growing up with these dogs.
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Will he grow up getting along just fine with both dogs if he is raised with them from a puppy? He would be socialized well with people and dogs from the time he is a puppy. Any pitbull owners that can share any personal experience here?[/quote]
I have a spayed female AmStaff who’s almost a year and a half, had her for about 9 months. Supposedly she was rescued from a fighting ring where she wasn’t getting aggressive enough so she was on track to be for bait or breeding.
We already had two cats when she arrived (recently got a third but haven’t introduced them yet) and they’re all getting along great now. It took a few months for them all to adjust and figure out who’s who and where they are in the “pack”, but they’re all set now. The 8-year old cat doesn’t really bother with her and the 2-year old cat is the playtime buddy.
The standard, gradual training methods to introduce any new animals is pretty effective (food on opposite sides of the door, etc.) Teaching the dog “Leave it” or “leave them alone” for when she starts getting over-excited was key. Now, no matter how riled up she’s getting or how much she wants to play, that command has her stopping everything and walking over to me.
I don’t think it’s as much “aggression” as it is becoming over-excited. Over-excitement can take a turn to rough-housing, which when combined with strong jaws, can turn a playful nip into a bigger bite on smaller animals. Getting her daily exercise goes a long way in managing her energy levels and keeping her calm enough to handle playtime with the cats.[/quote]
Thanks man, i appreciate it. Most of the feedback ive gotten reinforces what i already believed, which is good.
My first 2 dogs turned out pretty good so i must be doing something right, hopefully if i just rinse and repeat with a new dog and socialize it well i wont have anything to be concerned about.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I won’t comment on a pit because I’ve never owned one, but a Boxer may be what you are looking for. Smaller than a rot. Super fun, athletic, great looking dogs, who are almost always great with all members of the family. I’ll never own a different breed. [/quote]
I am considering a boxer as well. The main reason pit is the front runner at the moment is because i know someone who has a litter right now, 4 weeks old. [/quote]
Whatever you pick, I wish you the same love and joy we get out of our Boxers. Good luck! [/quote]
Thanks, quick question about the boxer: are they bad droolers? I know they have the longest tongue of any breed.
Dogs ate somewhat like kids in that, if you show them whats up and teach them when they’re young, they will be fine bit if you don’t raise them right, it will be much like having a brat kid that doesn’t want to listen
I have 2 pitbulls.
One rednose that is 110 lbs that is 4 years old
One blue (razors edge / gotti) that is 95 currently only 18 months old.
Golden retriever that is 11 years old
And a great dane that is 18 months old
The great dane and youngest pit have had a few issues that I now have worked out. Mainly working out the pecking order among the pack below me.
Pits require TONS of attention. They are the most destructive fuckers ever if you don’t give them the proper attention and exercise. They are big strong powerful dogs. Absolutely gorgeous, but they can really mess up other dogs even if they didn’t start it. Their athleticism and agility are out of this world. Having owned them for years now, I can see why they can be so potentially dangerous in the wrong situation/ owner.
Oh and I go through 40lbs of blue buffalo dog food every 5.5 days.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Dogs ate somewhat like kids in that, if you show them whats up and teach them when they’re young, they will be fine bit if you don’t raise them right, it will be much like having a brat kid that doesn’t want to listen[/quote]
Exactly and you don’t want 110 lbs ball of muscle/teeth that doesn’t listen.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
I have 2 pitbulls.
One rednose that is 110 lbs that is 4 years old
One blue (razors edge / gotti) that is 95 currently only 18 months old.
Golden retriever that is 11 years old
And a great dane that is 18 months old
The great dane and youngest pit have had a few issues that I now have worked out. Mainly working out the pecking order among the pack below me.
Pits require TONS of attention. They are the most destructive fuckers ever if you don’t give them the proper attention and exercise. They are big strong powerful dogs. Absolutely gorgeous, but they can really mess up other dogs even if they didn’t start it. Their athleticism and agility are out of this world. Having owned them for years now, I can see why they can be so potentially dangerous in the wrong situation/ owner.
Oh and I go through 40lbs of blue buffalo dog food every 5.5 days.[/quote]
My dog can jump so high his hind legs are over my head…just to say, “hello”.
audiogarden1,
Meet Stanley, my 3 y.o. Pitbull Terrier. Like you, I had Rotties before. Best advice I can give you I think you have already received; DO NOT get the same sex. My two Rotties, both females, were about 4 years apart and had issues at times. Great around the wife and kids but it was a power play between them.
Don’t let this out to the home invaders but Stanley is a Mommy’s Boy, a real sissy that the cat beats up on. But he is a good guard dog. He can hear the kid’s bus coming and we live 600’ off the road and through the wood. His job is to let me know if someone shows up at 2:00 a.m., I’ll take it from there if you know what I mean.
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
audiogarden1,
Meet Stanley, my 3 y.o. Pitbull Terrier. Like you, I had Rotties before. Best advice I can give you I think you have already received; DO NOT get the same sex. My two Rotties, both females, were about 4 years apart and had issues at times. Great around the wife and kids but it was a power play between them.
Don’t let this out to the home invaders but Stanley is a Mommy’s Boy, a real sissy that the cat beats up on. But he is a good guard dog. He can hear the kid’s bus coming and we live 600’ off the road and through the wood. His job is to let me know if someone shows up at 2:00 a.m., I’ll take it from there if you know what I mean.[/quote]
Well going to be kind of hard not to get the same sex since i already own one male and one female dog…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
I have 2 pitbulls.
One rednose that is 110 lbs that is 4 years old
One blue (razors edge / gotti) that is 95 currently only 18 months old.
Golden retriever that is 11 years old
And a great dane that is 18 months old
The great dane and youngest pit have had a few issues that I now have worked out. Mainly working out the pecking order among the pack below me.
Pits require TONS of attention. They are the most destructive fuckers ever if you don’t give them the proper attention and exercise. They are big strong powerful dogs. Absolutely gorgeous, but they can really mess up other dogs even if they didn’t start it. Their athleticism and agility are out of this world. Having owned them for years now, I can see why they can be so potentially dangerous in the wrong situation/ owner.
Oh and I go through 40lbs of blue buffalo dog food every 5.5 days.[/quote]
My dog can jump so high his hind legs are over my head…just to say, “hello”.[/quote]
My first boxer was like that. Straight up, no forward progress, like a spring, and staring you straight in the eye. Once she ran sideways up a 12 foot fence and then ran along the top of it chasing a rat. Crazy.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
I don’t see how a pit bull is a compromise for a rottweiler. If you had specific reasons for wanting a rottweiler then I don’t see how you would make a pit bull your next choice unless what you want from the dog has changed.
Also, how much space do you think a rottweiler will actually take up? You also mention price. How much were you going to spend on the rottweiler because I can tell you that if you were prepared to spend over 2K then you were not planning on getting a good rottweiler. You should be thinking about getting the best dog you can, not the cheapest. A pit bull is not a less expensive, smaller version of a rottweiler.
I also don’t understand what you mean by “more naturally aggressive breeds” and I don’t think you understand either. You might want to learn a lot more about dogs before getting another one. [/quote]
A pit bull is a compromise. I dont have the money or the space for a rott right now. Pitbulls are a smaller, cheaper molloser breed. If you are still not understanding, grab a dictionary.
And pitbulls are naturally dog-aggressive breeds. It is a fact. Many mollosser type dogs are. Its not even really debatable…
What is with T-Nation always trying to spin the simplest thread into a shit-show? Its almost to the point of being pathetic. [/quote]
You qualified aggressive to mean dog aggressive. Again, pits and rotts are different dogs so it isn’t a compromise in the sense that you are getting the same thing in a smaller, cheaper package. If you really wanted a rott for the reasons that make a rott a rott then switching to a pit means either what you want from the dog has changed or, you didn’t want a rott because of what makes it a rott, you just wanted a big dog that doesn’t have the image of being a wimp.
You are also wrong about the dog aggression. It is not a fact. What does dog aggressive even mean? Dominance? Territoriality? I have owned several rottweilers and they were not dog aggressive, in the sense that I think you mean, however, there were many small and toy breeds that they encountered who were aggressive towards them. Rottweilers are not dog aggressive and are not supposed to be dog aggressive. They are supposed to be aloof. Don’t confuse territoriality, dominance, defensiveness, etc., with dog aggression as those drives and traits are supposed to apply to how the dog relates to (strange) people, not just dogs.
A pit bull raised with other dogs should not be aggressive towards them. Dogs have drives and how you allow the dog to channel them is how you shape his behavior. If he has high prey drive you need to direct that towards an acceptable outlet. Pit bulls have attacked and killed people. Does that mean they are also people aggressive? No. It means that whoever owned those particular individuals never corrected them when they directed their prey drive towards people. They may even have encouraged it.
In short, pits are not dog aggressive. They have strong drives that if not channeled correctly can result in dog aggression. If you have a dog, any breed, that is very dominant then there is potential for trouble if it encounters another dog who is also dominant. This is not dog aggression because it doesn’t happen with all dogs.
The thing with pits is that most of the information about them is based on dogs who were owned by scumbags. So of course they have a reputation for dog aggression when most of the pits who form the “data pool” had owners who fought them.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
I have 2 pitbulls.
One rednose that is 110 lbs that is 4 years old
One blue (razors edge / gotti) that is 95 currently only 18 months old.
Golden retriever that is 11 years old
And a great dane that is 18 months old
The great dane and youngest pit have had a few issues that I now have worked out. Mainly working out the pecking order among the pack below me.
Pits require TONS of attention. They are the most destructive fuckers ever if you don’t give them the proper attention and exercise. They are big strong powerful dogs. Absolutely gorgeous, but they can really mess up other dogs even if they didn’t start it. Their athleticism and agility are out of this world. Having owned them for years now, I can see why they can be so potentially dangerous in the wrong situation/ owner.
Oh and I go through 40lbs of blue buffalo dog food every 5.5 days.[/quote]
My dog can jump so high his hind legs are over my head…just to say, “hello”.[/quote]
My first boxer was like that. Straight up, no forward progress, like a spring, and staring you straight in the eye. Once she ran sideways up a 12 foot fence and then ran along the top of it chasing a rat. Crazy.
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Ha yeah mine used to jump the fence and then run around to the gate like “Let me back in!” lol
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
I don’t see how a pit bull is a compromise for a rottweiler. If you had specific reasons for wanting a rottweiler then I don’t see how you would make a pit bull your next choice unless what you want from the dog has changed.
Also, how much space do you think a rottweiler will actually take up? You also mention price. How much were you going to spend on the rottweiler because I can tell you that if you were prepared to spend over 2K then you were not planning on getting a good rottweiler. You should be thinking about getting the best dog you can, not the cheapest. A pit bull is not a less expensive, smaller version of a rottweiler.
I also don’t understand what you mean by “more naturally aggressive breeds” and I don’t think you understand either. You might want to learn a lot more about dogs before getting another one. [/quote]
A pit bull is a compromise. I dont have the money or the space for a rott right now. Pitbulls are a smaller, cheaper molloser breed. If you are still not understanding, grab a dictionary.
And pitbulls are naturally dog-aggressive breeds. It is a fact. Many mollosser type dogs are. Its not even really debatable…
What is with T-Nation always trying to spin the simplest thread into a shit-show? Its almost to the point of being pathetic. [/quote]
You qualified aggressive to mean dog aggressive. Again, pits and rotts are different dogs so it isn’t a compromise in the sense that you are getting the same thing in a smaller, cheaper package. If you really wanted a rott for the reasons that make a rott a rott then switching to a pit means either what you want from the dog has changed or, you didn’t want a rott because of what makes it a rott, you just wanted a big dog that doesn’t have the image of being a wimp.
You are also wrong about the dog aggression. It is not a fact. What does dog aggressive even mean? Dominance? Territoriality? I have owned several rottweilers and they were not dog aggressive, in the sense that I think you mean, however, there were many small and toy breeds that they encountered who were aggressive towards them. Rottweilers are not dog aggressive and are not supposed to be dog aggressive. They are supposed to be aloof. Don’t confuse territoriality, dominance, defensiveness, etc., with dog aggression as those drives and traits are supposed to apply to how the dog relates to (strange) people, not just dogs.
A pit bull raised with other dogs should not be aggressive towards them. Dogs have drives and how you allow the dog to channel them is how you shape his behavior. If he has high prey drive you need to direct that towards an acceptable outlet. Pit bulls have attacked and killed people. Does that mean they are also people aggressive? No. It means that whoever owned those particular individuals never corrected them when they directed their prey drive towards people. They may even have encouraged it.
In short, pits are not dog aggressive. They have strong drives that if not channeled correctly can result in dog aggression. If you have a dog, any breed, that is very dominant then there is potential for trouble if it encounters another dog who is also dominant. This is not dog aggression because it doesn’t happen with all dogs.
The thing with pits is that most of the information about them is based on dogs who were owned by scumbags. So of course they have a reputation for dog aggression when most of the pits who form the “data pool” had owners who fought them. [/quote]
TL:DR
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
TL:DR[/quote]
Doesn’t matter. You got some good answers and know which way you’re headed. I hereby suggest that this thread now become about pictures of our pits. 
My girl’s first time experiencing snow, a few weeks ago.