[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Thank goodness for this thread. Now I know who the Indians on this site are so I can avoid them.
*JOKING, NOT SRS[/quote]
GO do your Zerchers
I hope you tear a bicep 
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Thank goodness for this thread. Now I know who the Indians on this site are so I can avoid them.
*JOKING, NOT SRS[/quote]
No, you cant.
whispers
They are everywhere!
^Are u in Austria?
Are there Indians in Austria?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
^Are u in Austria?
Are there Indians in Austria?[/quote]
Yes, there are Indians in Austria.
And Pakistanis.
But not one feather Indian.
Bummer.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Fellow Dot Indian here. My parents definitely believe in certain racial stereotypes and they have always preferred me to have Indian friends. I just find it funny when they make the odd backwards comment.
But high schoolers are idiots (no offense). When you go off to university, even though there are still idiots they are fewer in number and you meet quality people. In a year things will be different[/quote]
Hey Raj
My son just graduated high school. He told me that for the previous 3 years, there’s a group of 6 or 7 Hindu kids there that hang together. They’ve dubbed themselves “The Brown Squad” and make Indian jokes, as well as do spot-on impressions of their relatives in mock accents, much to everyone’s amusement. I wondered why they’d do such a thing. But I believe now it was a way of intercepting being goofed on by the white kids, and it seems to have worked. They owned and controlled it to he point that criticism never came their way.
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Yeah I pretty much did that in High School too. That’s exactly what it is, a preemptive defense.[/quote]
You’re Indian?[/quote]
Sri Lankan.[/quote]
I thought you were a cat!
[quote]zahmad wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
The dynamic I do not understand though, and that I VERY MUCH disagree with, is your tolerance to racist statements from your “white friends” toward other Indians. If you want to be the “token” Indian, fine. But don’t go kidding yourself that someone is your friend if they are so insensitive to call Indians “dirty” and such, but with the disingenuous disclaimer that “oh, but you’re not”. Explain why you tolerate that? [/quote]
He’s in high school. He wants to fit in so he’s not going to put himself in a position to get “ousted” by the white kids. First generation American kids of immigrant parents have a tough battle to find where they fit in. The social customs of home vs outside are totally different. Even after growing up, and after college, it’s still confusing on where you belong, because they are still not white, and they are still not as culturally tied as their parents and new immigrants. Just like this kid, they find themselves being considered a “foreigner” by both groups and strive to be excepted by both groups. The group that this kid can most relate too are the ones like him, the more “Americanized” Indians, if there are any around. [/quote]
That’s an explanation, but does not excuse the weak-minded (in my opinion) tolerance of willingly being a “token”.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Thank goodness for this thread. Now I know who the Indians on this site are so I can avoid them.
*JOKING, NOT SRS[/quote]
RACIST!
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Fellow Dot Indian here. My parents definitely believe in certain racial stereotypes and they have always preferred me to have Indian friends. I just find it funny when they make the odd backwards comment.
But high schoolers are idiots (no offense). When you go off to university, even though there are still idiots they are fewer in number and you meet quality people. In a year things will be different[/quote]
Hey Raj
My son just graduated high school. He told me that for the previous 3 years, there’s a group of 6 or 7 Hindu kids there that hang together. They’ve dubbed themselves “The Brown Squad” and make Indian jokes, as well as do spot-on impressions of their relatives in mock accents, much to everyone’s amusement. I wondered why they’d do such a thing. But I believe now it was a way of intercepting being goofed on by the white kids, and it seems to have worked. They owned and controlled it to he point that criticism never came their way.
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Yeah I pretty much did that in High School too. That’s exactly what it is, a preemptive defense.[/quote]
You’re Indian?[/quote]
Sri Lankan.[/quote]
I thought you were a cat![/quote]
lol
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Fellow Dot Indian here. My parents definitely believe in certain racial stereotypes and they have always preferred me to have Indian friends. I just find it funny when they make the odd backwards comment.
But high schoolers are idiots (no offense). When you go off to university, even though there are still idiots they are fewer in number and you meet quality people. In a year things will be different[/quote]
Hey Raj
My son just graduated high school. He told me that for the previous 3 years, there’s a group of 6 or 7 Hindu kids there that hang together. They’ve dubbed themselves “The Brown Squad” and make Indian jokes, as well as do spot-on impressions of their relatives in mock accents, much to everyone’s amusement. I wondered why they’d do such a thing. But I believe now it was a way of intercepting being goofed on by the white kids, and it seems to have worked. They owned and controlled it to he point that criticism never came their way.
[/quote]
Yeah I pretty much did that in High School too. That’s exactly what it is, a preemptive defense.[/quote]
You’re Indian?[/quote]
Sri Lankan.[/quote]
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I was at the dentist getting my teeth cleaned when the black woman who was cleaning my teeth caught ear of how Obama’s position on gay marriage is changing.
Her thoughts?
“I don’t think they should be able to marry… A man and a man can’t make a baby - the human race will die out! Think about what it’d be like in 20 years or so… I don’t see why they’re so mad about their "rights" anyway.”
Where I bolded her quotes, she actually stopped to do the quote fingers thing.
I honestly cannot think of the last time when I’ve been so apalled at something someone said.
^Seemed a little relevant to the thread. :/[/quote]
Ok, I’m not exactly a pro-gay-marriage-crusader, but that’s just asinine.
I wouldn’t have been able to hold my tongue, in that situation. She would have likely heard a response like this…
“I know, right? And did you hear how he feels about the negroes? He actually thinks they still deserve the “right” to vote. What is this world coming to, when even the president believes that the blacks are capable of making decisions like that?”
“right” in air-quotes, obviously.
And just because overly sensitive people do exist…I’m not against black people’s right to vote.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
That’s an explanation, but does not excuse the weak-minded (in my opinion) tolerance of willingly being a “token”. [/quote]
True. I don’t think many high school kids are that strong minded, and they value “fitting in” more than being righteous. I agree it’s not right, just a part of growing up.
Man I went to an all boys HS and we never had any of that shit going on. Everyone got along, there weren’t any so called ‘clicks’ just groups of people that hung out together. You’d have the same people playing touch on the field every lunch hour, the dudes that played basketball in the gym, the dudes talking shit by B Block, etc.
Here in New Zealand, because we’re small you can really see we are truly multicultural, especially at the secondary and tertiary education level. There’s people from everywhere. In my HS you really couldn’t tell whites were the majority. Sure, the occasional stereotypes get thrown around like “asians are smart” “islanders are dumb” but it’s not serious and like I said everyone got along. Stuff like that is always going to be said, privately and publicly because it’s human nature to make generalisations.
I’ve found that guys, predominately in that young adult category are less prejudice when it comes to race, among other things than girls. A lot of the stereotypes and “HS discrimination” the OP is talking about is fostered by chicks. Now you may disagree with that but it’s something I’ve personally observed being around all boys and all girls schools.
[quote]zahmad wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
That’s an explanation, but does not excuse the weak-minded (in my opinion) tolerance of willingly being a “token”. [/quote]
True. I don’t think many high school kids are that strong minded, and they value “fitting in” more than being righteous. I agree it’s not right, just a part of growing up.[/quote]
Indeed, it’s survival at that stage. If Op ain’t big or doesn’t have Al Swearengen’s mouth and confidence then he’s in an intimidating situation. Not part of the indian group. Only part of the white group because he puts up with their insecurities. Not an easy situation to be in. But then High School ain’t about being easy. =P
I sure as shit wouldn’t want to go back to it!
But x100 what ID said. Racism, I believe, primarily starts in the home in most cases. Not always. But when you’re growing up under the roof of parents who are filled with that kind of hate it’s difficult not to be influenced by it. It takes special circumstances I think to break free from that.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Here in New Zealand, because we’re small you can really see we are truly multicultural, especially at the secondary and tertiary education level. There’s people from everywhere.
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How long has NZ been that way? I ask because in Scotland it’s very different. It’s really been over the last decade or so that true racial diversity has kicked in, beyond the indian population of course. When I first came here in 1990 I was shocked by the sheer amount of white people everywhere. Was like two years or something before I saw my first black person here. Coming from a black/Mexican suburb from Dallas to here was quite an abrupt change.
But due to immigration there’s now a lot of eastern europeans and Nigerians filling certain areas of the city and even though I haven’t spotted any tensions between the two; I don’t live in those areas so haven’t a clue if they’ve developed yet or not.
[quote]Stern wrote:
How long has NZ been that way? I ask because in Scotland it’s very different. It’s really been over the last decade or so that true racial diversity has kicked in, beyond the indian population of course. When I first came here in 1990 I was shocked by the sheer amount of white people everywhere. Was like two years or something before I saw my first black person here. Coming from a black/Mexican suburb from Dallas to here was quite an abrupt change.
But due to immigration there’s now a lot of eastern europeans and Nigerians filling certain areas of the city and even though I haven’t spotted any tensions between the two; I don’t live in those areas so haven’t a clue if they’ve developed yet or not.
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I went through Primary, Secondary and Tertiary education in Scotland (1975 to 1990)and more than 99% of my fellow students were white and Scottish.
There was no ill feeling towards the other 1%.
However whilst there’s little racism here, people will abuse/stab each other depending on which football team they support, and use religion as their excuse. But they are the same people who would become racists if there were enough people of other races to abuse.
morons will find reasons to behave like morons
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Much of that racism begins with their ignorant parents. Then peer pressure. [/quote]
These are the lyrics from a song written in 1949 by Rogers and Hammerstein for the musical “South Pacific”.
[i]
You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear
You’ve got to be taught
From year to Year
It’s got to be drummed
in your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught
You’ve got to be taught
To be Afraid
Of people whose eyes
are oddly made
And people whose skin
Is a different shade
You’ve got to be carefully taught
You’ve got to be taught
Before it’s too late
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8
To hate all the people
your relatives hate
You’ve got to be carefully taught [/i]
You’d a thunk we would have made some progress in 62 years.