[quote]Jabbate wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
People are only considering forced eugenics, rather than voluntary.
The idea of a genius sperm bank may be offensive to many people, but I don’t really care. The potential is enormous.
I don’t believe that governments should actively attempt to stop less intelligent people from breeding, but they also shouldn’t implement policies that disproportionately encourage less intelligent people to have kids.
That’s the problem with the U.S., the PC invasion. We, as a society are so afraid to offend people, but as Gonzo said here,the potential is enormous. I believe the government should implement some restraints on less intelligent people breeding. I don’t mean less intelligent like here-take-this IQ- test intelligent, or based on income or race, but rather lifestyle. If a 35 year old ex-con and a 35 year old unemployed drug addict marry, the government should implement some sort of system to defer them from reproducing until they meet some government given incentives, such as she has to get clean and employed and he has to do X amount of community service before the government permits the couple to have a child.
Now, there are flaws with this.
How can they enforce this, you can’t have the gov’t killing babies
What about illegimate children.
This is not pC omgwtfbbq
In all honestly, come up with a solution to these loopholes and this is a great system.[/quote]
You want to entrust government with the genetic future of the American people.
Good luck with that.
Your Chinese Overlords will not even have to forbid you to learn to read or write.
[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
It is interesting that over all whites have been in charge, but it is also misleading to say that whites are racially dominant.
A lot of it is culture. All through the ages, Europe served as a cultural epicenter, absorbing, learning from and propagating pieces of other cultures. The mid-east / north africa did have it’s day though.
Over time, European innovation and progress eclipsed all others, giving Europeans an advantage where they took over lesser developed areas exposed to less over all knowledge. They wrote laws and formed countries that last to this day.
White dominance has more to do with location and experience than it does race. [/quote]
You make some good points but you fail to explain some other points.
Europe had its glory and there is a lot of information in ENGLISH about Western civilization because ever since the Roman Empire, a lot of text and historical records were kept and maintained in Latin and translated to English (due to the English Empire domination). So people who speak English now, have a lot of information to reference back to, thus making it seem like Europe is the epicenter.
Ever since the fall of the Roman Empire, people in history were looking for Asia because of the riches and spices that existed over there.
Genghis Khan, a non European is the only guy who conquered half the world.
If White dominance is in fact true, explain why the American economy is falling so fast, yet the Chinese and Indian markets are the fastest growing in the world and will probably grow to become the next economical superpowers if not already.
As seen in history, every empire rises and falls. However, most of us don’t live long enough to see this and we assume certain things (i.e. White domination) based on what we are exposed to and where we live. The American media has effectively blanked out the rest of the world only focusing on itself. It is no wonder that a lot of Americans are blinded and do not know much about other cultures and the world and assume itself as superior.
[quote]MikeyHDDS wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
It is interesting that over all whites have been in charge, but it is also misleading to say that whites are racially dominant.
A lot of it is culture. All through the ages, Europe served as a cultural epicenter, absorbing, learning from and propagating pieces of other cultures. The mid-east / north africa did have it’s day though.
Over time, European innovation and progress eclipsed all others, giving Europeans an advantage where they took over lesser developed areas exposed to less over all knowledge. They wrote laws and formed countries that last to this day.
White dominance has more to do with location and experience than it does race.
You make some good points but you fail to explain some other points.
Europe had its glory and there is a lot of information in ENGLISH about Western civilization because ever since the Roman Empire, a lot of text and historical records were kept and maintained in Latin and translated to English (due to the English Empire domination). So people who speak English now, have a lot of information to reference back to, thus making it seem like Europe is the epicenter.
Ever since the fall of the Roman Empire, people in history were looking for Asia because of the riches and spices that existed over there.
Genghis Khan, a non European is the only guy who conquered half the world.
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[quote]orion wrote:
MikeyHDDS wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
It is interesting that over all whites have been in charge, but it is also misleading to say that whites are racially dominant.
A lot of it is culture. All through the ages, Europe served as a cultural epicenter, absorbing, learning from and propagating pieces of other cultures. The mid-east / north africa did have it’s day though.
Over time, European innovation and progress eclipsed all others, giving Europeans an advantage where they took over lesser developed areas exposed to less over all knowledge. They wrote laws and formed countries that last to this day.
White dominance has more to do with location and experience than it does race.
You make some good points but you fail to explain some other points.
Europe had its glory and there is a lot of information in ENGLISH about Western civilization because ever since the Roman Empire, a lot of text and historical records were kept and maintained in Latin and translated to English (due to the English Empire domination). So people who speak English now, have a lot of information to reference back to, thus making it seem like Europe is the epicenter.
Ever since the fall of the Roman Empire, people in history were looking for Asia because of the riches and spices that existed over there.
Genghis Khan, a non European is the only guy who conquered half the world.
Alexander the Great? Peter the Great?[/quote]
Alexander went to India, fair enough, Peter had siberia, which wasn’t that habitated but I’ll give you that too. Still it is not any indication of any White superiority. I don’t think I was trying to imply that any race is superior by any means, just stating that I don’t agree with racial superiority.
It also depends on what you define as “white.” I’m assuming Caucasians. So if that is the case, a lot of such empires are fighting amongst mostly Caucasians as well. So how is that being superior?
Nonetheless The Russian Empire is only second to that of the Mongol Empire in size with respect to contiguous empires.
The British did have the largest empire with all its colonies, but again, if you look at this list, a lot of large empires were not “white” dominated.
Even then having a large Empire does not imply racial dominance.
Going back to the original post about Black athletes, you have to understand that American Black Athletes are impressive but there is more than meets the eye with respect of how that came to be.
When the Africans were being sent to AMerica as slaves, the biggest and most physically impressive members were taken to be the slaves. So there was already a preselection of those with genes more suited to physical and laborous work, and thus, it is not unusual that you see black athletes in America out perform their White and Asian counterparts. Not to mention the money spent by the USA to train their athletes.
This past olympics is an indication that US no longer has superiority in athletics. Even if you look at past few olympics, China has consistently ranked in the Top 3. So I don’t really believe that there are any racial differences. Just people who are more athleticall gifted than others.
[quote]MikeyHDDS wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
It is interesting that over all whites have been in charge, but it is also misleading to say that whites are racially dominant.
A lot of it is culture. All through the ages, Europe served as a cultural epicenter, absorbing, learning from and propagating pieces of other cultures. The mid-east / north africa did have it’s day though.
Over time, European innovation and progress eclipsed all others, giving Europeans an advantage where they took over lesser developed areas exposed to less over all knowledge. They wrote laws and formed countries that last to this day.
White dominance has more to do with location and experience than it does race.
You make some good points but you fail to explain some other points.
Europe had its glory and there is a lot of information in ENGLISH about Western civilization because ever since the Roman Empire, a lot of text and historical records were kept and maintained in Latin and translated to English (due to the English Empire domination). So people who speak English now, have a lot of information to reference back to, thus making it seem like Europe is the epicenter.
Ever since the fall of the Roman Empire, people in history were looking for Asia because of the riches and spices that existed over there.
Genghis Khan, a non European is the only guy who conquered half the world.
If White dominance is in fact true, explain why the American economy is falling so fast, yet the Chinese and Indian markets are the fastest growing in the world and will probably grow to become the next economical superpowers if not already.
As seen in history, every empire rises and falls. However, most of us don’t live long enough to see this and we assume certain things (i.e. White domination) based on what we are exposed to and where we live. The American media has effectively blanked out the rest of the world only focusing on itself. It is no wonder that a lot of Americans are blinded and do not know much about other cultures and the world and assume itself as superior. [/quote]
Yes and no. Other cultures have their own history, you just are not exposed to it as you are a part of one of Britains spheres of influence. Many Latin documents were also translated to French, German, Russian and really anywhere the Catholic church ruled. Many latin documents were originally greek and persian documents anyways.
2)Yes. And, considering the “known” world at the time consisted largely of africa, europe and asia; Europe was more or less in the middle of the various trade routes (and was a trade destination) and saw products, ideas and people both coming and going, hence the absorption of other cultures. Diffusion is the correct term. This diffusion created the basis for Europe to build a strong society on. The same can be said for egypt, greece, and many other countries/regions through out history. It’s like a farmer back in the day buying land on a spring and controlling a whole regions water supply. Give others growth or cut them back at will. You control the resource.
3)Marginal. England did conquer quite a bit of the world, spain too. And France really. But so did the Aztecs and Incas, just on another continent.
4)Outsourcing. So far though, the shitty jobs are leaving here for there. At this rate, china and india will both develop to whatever economic level call center jobs create. Our GDP and GNP both stay strong in comparison. And we still serve as a brain drain, also beneficial. China is improving when compared to itself, but it doesn’t touch the US.
But yes, whites have been in control virtually across the board for centuries, more due to circumstantial reasons than skin color. We do have a black prez however, so this isn’t really the case so much any more.
4)Outsourcing. So far though, the shitty jobs are leaving here for there. At this rate, china and india will both develop to whatever economic level call center jobs create. Our GDP and GNP both stay strong in comparison. And we still serve as a brain drain, also beneficial. China is improving when compared to itself, but it doesn’t touch the US.
But yes, whites have been in control virtually across the board for centuries, more due to circumstantial reasons than skin color. We do have a black prez however, so this isn’t really the case so much any more.
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Ok I see what you are saying. Right now a problem I find in China is that you have the rich that are very very rich and the poor that are really poor, and this will be a problem for its growth to catch up to the US. Same as India. Overall right now the US has higher GDP and GNP. There is also a prestige factor. I’m not an expert in economics nor am I a financial analyst but these past years a lot more billionaires that have come up out of nowhere from India. India has the second highest amount of billionaires next to America. The Waltons have dropped from 3-7th richest to 16th and lower in the last 2 years or so. This is only the beginning to some sort of change.
Whites have been in control at most for the past 200-300 years since the fall of the Qing Empire, I’ll give you that. Prior to the English going into China with all the opium however, I wouldn’t go as far as to say Whites were in control at all.
[quote]orion wrote:
Jabbate wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
People are only considering forced eugenics, rather than voluntary.
The idea of a genius sperm bank may be offensive to many people, but I don’t really care. The potential is enormous.
I don’t believe that governments should actively attempt to stop less intelligent people from breeding, but they also shouldn’t implement policies that disproportionately encourage less intelligent people to have kids.
That’s the problem with the U.S., the PC invasion. We, as a society are so afraid to offend people, but as Gonzo said here,the potential is enormous. I believe the government should implement some restraints on less intelligent people breeding. I don’t mean less intelligent like here-take-this IQ- test intelligent, or based on income or race, but rather lifestyle. If a 35 year old ex-con and a 35 year old unemployed drug addict marry, the government should implement some sort of system to defer them from reproducing until they meet some government given incentives, such as she has to get clean and employed and he has to do X amount of community service before the government permits the couple to have a child.
Now, there are flaws with this.
How can they enforce this, you can’t have the gov’t killing babies
What about illegimate children.
This is not pC omgwtfbbq
In all honestly, come up with a solution to these loopholes and this is a great system.
You want to entrust government with the genetic future of the American people.
Good luck with that.
Your Chinese Overlords will not even have to forbid you to learn to read or write.
[/quote]
I’m trying to say that this will boost national intelligence levels, not reduce it. Read it again.
[quote]Jabbate wrote:
orion wrote:
Jabbate wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
People are only considering forced eugenics, rather than voluntary.
The idea of a genius sperm bank may be offensive to many people, but I don’t really care. The potential is enormous.
I don’t believe that governments should actively attempt to stop less intelligent people from breeding, but they also shouldn’t implement policies that disproportionately encourage less intelligent people to have kids.
That’s the problem with the U.S., the PC invasion. We, as a society are so afraid to offend people, but as Gonzo said here,the potential is enormous. I believe the government should implement some restraints on less intelligent people breeding. I don’t mean less intelligent like here-take-this IQ- test intelligent, or based on income or race, but rather lifestyle. If a 35 year old ex-con and a 35 year old unemployed drug addict marry, the government should implement some sort of system to defer them from reproducing until they meet some government given incentives, such as she has to get clean and employed and he has to do X amount of community service before the government permits the couple to have a child.
Now, there are flaws with this.
How can they enforce this, you can’t have the gov’t killing babies
What about illegimate children.
This is not pC omgwtfbbq
In all honestly, come up with a solution to these loopholes and this is a great system.
You want to entrust government with the genetic future of the American people.
Good luck with that.
Your Chinese Overlords will not even have to forbid you to learn to read or write.
I’m trying to say that this will boost national intelligence levels, not reduce it. Read it again.
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I know.
I am trying to say that if you trust your government to do that you grandchildren will be borderline retarded.
4)Outsourcing. So far though, the shitty jobs are leaving here for there. At this rate, china and india will both develop to whatever economic level call center jobs create. Our GDP and GNP both stay strong in comparison. And we still serve as a brain drain, also beneficial. China is improving when compared to itself, but it doesn’t touch the US.
But yes, whites have been in control virtually across the board for centuries, more due to circumstantial reasons than skin color. We do have a black prez however, so this isn’t really the case so much any more.
Ok I see what you are saying. Right now a problem I find in China is that you have the rich that are very very rich and the poor that are really poor, and this will be a problem for its growth to catch up to the US. Same as India. Overall right now the US has higher GDP and GNP. There is also a prestige factor. I’m not an expert in economics nor am I a financial analyst but these past years a lot more billionaires that have come up out of nowhere from India. India has the second highest amount of billionaires next to America. The Waltons have dropped from 3-7th richest to 16th and lower in the last 2 years or so. This is only the beginning to some sort of change.
Whites have been in control at most for the past 200-300 years since the fall of the Qing Empire, I’ll give you that. Prior to the English going into China with all the opium however, I wouldn’t go as far as to say Whites were in control at all.[/quote]
Yes but the Indians are primarily getting rich on the American economy. They own the sweatshops commissioned by our corporations and though the Quik-e-Marts and Hotels can create off colored jokes about Indians, there is no joke about the money they make. Same with the Chinese.
The money comes from American industry. Well, Western anyways.
You have to consider economies of scale, which makes an easy and interesting google study. THe billionaires are exceptions to the rule.
The Chinese may come up pretty quickly. They have a stronger infrastructure than India and are utilizing resources for improvement. As long as they keep breaking world law and going through various scandals though, they will continually recieve international sanctions that will prevent any form of political growth on an international scale.
And while it can’t be proven, you can bet our intelligence communities are keeping an eye on everything. Russia was China once upon a time. We had problems but we won. It isn’t unlikely that the US and it’s allies are keeping a close watch on China and India both. There is always military action to be considered should it come to that. It is pretty hard to knock a king off the hill. Usually he has to implode, which may well happen.
And while it can’t be proven, you can bet our intelligence communities are keeping an eye on everything. Russia was China once upon a time. We had problems but we won. It isn’t unlikely that the US and it’s allies are keeping a close watch on China and India both. There is always military action to be considered should it come to that. It is pretty hard to knock a king off the hill. Usually he has to implode, which may well happen. [/quote]
I agree with you on this one. The US is definitely keeping a close eye on things. A king never wants to be dethroned. But if it does implode, the fact that these other countries are coming up will be more of a threat.
But with that said, if the US wants to continue on top, they have to assimilate immigrants, notably the Rich Indian and Chinese tycoons. So even then White will no longer run the show.
Aside joke (don’t take this next part too seriously and I hope i don’t offend others): To keep White rule, whites should intermix with such Rich INdian and Chinese tycoons. AT least then, the kids that come up the next generation will still have some white blood in them.
And while it can’t be proven, you can bet our intelligence communities are keeping an eye on everything. Russia was China once upon a time. We had problems but we won. It isn’t unlikely that the US and it’s allies are keeping a close watch on China and India both. There is always military action to be considered should it come to that. It is pretty hard to knock a king off the hill. Usually he has to implode, which may well happen.
I agree with you on this one. The US is definitely keeping a close eye on things. A king never wants to be dethroned. But if it does implode, the fact that these other countries are coming up will be more of a threat.
But with that said, if the US wants to continue on top, they have to assimilate immigrants, notably the Rich Indian and Chinese tycoons. So even then White will no longer run the show.
Aside joke (don’t take this next part too seriously and I hope i don’t offend others): To keep White rule, whites should intermix with such Rich INdian and Chinese tycoons. AT least then, the kids that come up the next generation will still have some white blood in them.[/quote]
As the world evens out, I think we will see a mix of races in leadership positions, political and private. Race is really pretty irrelevent these days and will grow to be more so. It’s all about the benjamins.
[quote]orion wrote:
Jabbate wrote:
orion wrote:
Jabbate wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
People are only considering forced eugenics, rather than voluntary.
The idea of a genius sperm bank may be offensive to many people, but I don’t really care. The potential is enormous.
I don’t believe that governments should actively attempt to stop less intelligent people from breeding, but they also shouldn’t implement policies that disproportionately encourage less intelligent people to have kids.
That’s the problem with the U.S., the PC invasion. We, as a society are so afraid to offend people, but as Gonzo said here,the potential is enormous. I believe the government should implement some restraints on less intelligent people breeding. I don’t mean less intelligent like here-take-this IQ- test intelligent, or based on income or race, but rather lifestyle. If a 35 year old ex-con and a 35 year old unemployed drug addict marry, the government should implement some sort of system to defer them from reproducing until they meet some government given incentives, such as she has to get clean and employed and he has to do X amount of community service before the government permits the couple to have a child.
Now, there are flaws with this.
How can they enforce this, you can’t have the gov’t killing babies
What about illegimate children.
This is not pC omgwtfbbq
In all honestly, come up with a solution to these loopholes and this is a great system.
You want to entrust government with the genetic future of the American people.
Good luck with that.
Your Chinese Overlords will not even have to forbid you to learn to read or write.
I’m trying to say that this will boost national intelligence levels, not reduce it. Read it again.
I know.
I am trying to say that if you trust your government to do that you grandchildren will be borderline retarded.
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Yeah, but if you trust the government to do it, then you are totally retarded, so are you saying it would work? I think borderline retarded is less retarded than totally retarded, so that means that they are getting smarter!!!
[quote]Scrotus wrote:
orion wrote:
Jabbate wrote:
orion wrote:
Jabbate wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
People are only considering forced eugenics, rather than voluntary.
The idea of a genius sperm bank may be offensive to many people, but I don’t really care. The potential is enormous.
I don’t believe that governments should actively attempt to stop less intelligent people from breeding, but they also shouldn’t implement policies that disproportionately encourage less intelligent people to have kids.
That’s the problem with the U.S., the PC invasion. We, as a society are so afraid to offend people, but as Gonzo said here,the potential is enormous. I believe the government should implement some restraints on less intelligent people breeding. I don’t mean less intelligent like here-take-this IQ- test intelligent, or based on income or race, but rather lifestyle. If a 35 year old ex-con and a 35 year old unemployed drug addict marry, the government should implement some sort of system to defer them from reproducing until they meet some government given incentives, such as she has to get clean and employed and he has to do X amount of community service before the government permits the couple to have a child.
Now, there are flaws with this.
How can they enforce this, you can’t have the gov’t killing babies
What about illegimate children.
This is not pC omgwtfbbq
In all honestly, come up with a solution to these loopholes and this is a great system.
You want to entrust government with the genetic future of the American people.
Good luck with that.
Your Chinese Overlords will not even have to forbid you to learn to read or write.
I’m trying to say that this will boost national intelligence levels, not reduce it. Read it again.
I know.
I am trying to say that if you trust your government to do that you grandchildren will be borderline retarded.
Yeah, but if you trust the government to do it, then you are totally retarded, so are you saying it would work? I think borderline retarded is less retarded than totally retarded, so that means that they are getting smarter!!! [/quote]
And while it can’t be proven, you can bet our intelligence communities are keeping an eye on everything. Russia was China once upon a time. We had problems but we won. It isn’t unlikely that the US and it’s allies are keeping a close watch on China and India both. There is always military action to be considered should it come to that. It is pretty hard to knock a king off the hill. Usually he has to implode, which may well happen.
I agree with you on this one. The US is definitely keeping a close eye on things. A king never wants to be dethroned. But if it does implode, the fact that these other countries are coming up will be more of a threat.
But with that said, if the US wants to continue on top, they have to assimilate immigrants, notably the Rich Indian and Chinese tycoons. So even then White will no longer run the show.
Aside joke (don’t take this next part too seriously and I hope i don’t offend others): To keep White rule, whites should intermix with such Rich INdian and Chinese tycoons. AT least then, the kids that come up the next generation will still have some white blood in them.
As the world evens out, I think we will see a mix of races in leadership positions, political and private. Race is really pretty irrelevent these days and will grow to be more so. It’s all about the benjamins. [/quote]