[quote]doogie wrote:
Want god out of the schools.[/quote]
unpossible, HE is everywhere
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]doogie wrote:
Want god out of the schools.[/quote]
unpossible, HE is everywhere[/quote]
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And I so did not give in to the itch…
Well I am so far left a liberal is a rightwinger in my eyes, so keep that in mind when I post my “conservative” wiews 
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I am for government to cut out meaningless spending, wich means that I dont see a point in spending X amount of tax money on something if you can get the same job done with Y. ( Y = less money than X ). I guess thats somewhat conservative.
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I am not super keen on government project thats overly expensive and thats not really necessary, like building a new National theater for alot of money when there allready exist a National theater. ( just an example )
I rather see that money be used on improving public health care or/and education or something similar. -
I am not a fan of super high wages in the public sector. I dont speak of a teachers salary, but millon$ wages for bureacrats, politicians, directors in the public sector. I would like a top wage limit be created.
Ps. I am speaking of things I like to see in my own country.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]doogie wrote:
Want god out of the schools.[/quote]
unpossible, HE is everywhere[/quote]
As if God is in the public school system now. It’s been 50 years since the U.S. Supreme Court first ruled that government-endorsed prayer in public schools is unconstitutional.
Now let’s see how many murders, rapes, assaults and other assorted crime has there been since then in and around public schools?
Really good decision on the SC part.
What atheists forget is that when you remove God you better replace him with something that is morally sound. BUT…they didn’t and that’s why we have what we have.
Really good call doogie!
I must have missed the part where the parents who DID have prayer in school were forced to quit teaching their own children about religion and forced to quit taking them to church. Of course, being a true conservative you think that is the government’s job.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/50-years-later-how-school-prayer-ruling-changed-america
Well, I am not really in one camp or the other. I tend to be liberal on my social views, so as far as those go:
-I am pro harsher treatment of criminals, this includes the increased use of the death penalty and hard labor/corporal punishment.
-I think that religion is a very important part of this world despite being agnostic myself and as such, it should be taught in school. Not one religion, though. The public school system should not be used as an indoctrination medium for Christianity or any other religion. All the major modern religions should be taught, including atheism (yes, I consider atheism a religion). I think that this would go a long way toward helping people understand each other, and will help people choose for themselves which religion, if any, they would like to join.
-I think that the entire secondary and post-secondary education system needs to be completely redesigned. Not modified, but torn down and rebuilt. The state of education in this country is horrible and I have had enough of it, which is why I am leaving my job as a professor for a job in the private sector, or at a major research facility like CERN.
-I am against affirmative action of any kind.
That is all I can think right now.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
…yes, I consider atheism a religion…
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I wonder where readers of this forum have heard that before?
And oh my oh my, does it ever make some of them burn to hear it.[/quote]
I have to agree. The belief that God does not exist is exactly that–a belief, taken on faith and unsupported by the slightest hint of evidence.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
…yes, I consider atheism a religion…
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I wonder where readers of this forum have heard that before?
And oh my oh my, does it ever make some of them burn to hear it.[/quote]
I have to agree. The belief that God does not exist is exactly that–a belief, taken on faith and unsupported by the slightest hint of evidence.[/quote]
I’m going to x3 that, and also think world religion should be taught in school.
[quote]doogie wrote:
I must have missed the part where the parents who DID have prayer in school were forced to quit teaching their own children about religion and forced to quit taking them to church. Of course, being a true conservative you think that is the government’s job.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/50-years-later-how-school-prayer-ruling-changed-america[/quote]
Glad the point flew over your head.
I’ll try once more.
When there was prayer in public schools most of the time the worst we had to worry about were kids skipping school, or school yard fights. Take prayer out of school and take a look at the rate of murder, rape, drug usage and many other crimes go up.
The next time you want to pull God from ANYWHERE you have to make sure that you replace it with a moral system that can do as much as belief in God and prayer can do.
Got it now?
[quote]smh23 wrote:
I thought it’d be interesting to post a list of issues where we agree with “the other side” more than our own.[/quote]
It’s funny how some miss the point of the thread entirely!
Sorry to interrupt.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
…yes, I consider atheism a religion…
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I wonder where readers of this forum have heard that before?
And oh my oh my, does it ever make some of them burn to hear it.[/quote]
Still waiting for your response about the statements you made in the Nye 2 thread push.
Again, apologies to everyone for interrupting. Very interesting thread btw.
Also, great points ZEB and DrMatt591
I’m center left so I’ll mention right leaning positions I take.
Anti no fault divorce. That shit scares the crap out of me.
Pro-life.
Completely against affirmative action in its current form.
I’d like to see the death penalty continue as a something left up to the states.
I’m pro guns.
I’ll list more later if I think of them.
[quote]doogie wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]doogie wrote:
Pro-gay marriage.
Pro weed legalization.
Want god out of the schools.[/quote]
Uh, I think you missed the point. It’s support for things people wouldn’t ordinarily associate with your perceived ideology, not things that fit your perceived ideology.
So if you are ordinarily conservative, you express the more liberal side of you. If you are ordinarily liberal, you express the more conservative side of you…[/quote]
I’m very conservative. Have voted straight ticket R every election but one in my life.[/quote]
Well I stand corrected then…
I consider myself a “hard power” Democrat.
Affirmative action- does far more harm than good and is not based on the merit of the individual.
Pro 2nd amendment- citizens should have an unalienable right to arm themselves.
Religion-Although I am not a Christian, individuals should have the right to freely express their religious faith in public settings without fear of censor. (Football game prayers, moments of silence in schools, and graduation speeches come to mind)
Immigration-Being born in the U.S. SHOULD NOT be an automatic validation of American citizenship for those whose parents are not Americans.