I get you dcb. Just like you, I was once reasonable and logical, but then I started posting in this thread, and was confounded and frustrated by the sometimes sheer idiocy presented by the likes of ZEB, lorisco, terribleivan, etc.
Just wanted to let everyone know that when speaking with such individuals on this topic, expect to have your most valid points completely ignored or misconstrued.
Hell, I was using stats that they themselves provided a few posts earlier to illustrate a point, and they had the gall to question the validity of their very own numbers. I just don’t know how anyone can expect to carry on a conversation if they can’t remember what they said a couple of posts before. And yet they’re all still here. Sad.
Considering that this thread is still going, and in light of the above anecdote, they must all have ridiculously unreliable or non-existent short term memories, a la Memento.
I just stopped in to see what was going on… (1400+ posts–lol!) and recognized a voice of reason amidst the din. Don’t cast your pearls before these swine, dcb. They are incapable of drawing real logical inferences, instead figuring that as long as they are still able to type a retort, that they are somehow proving their argument, while ignoring everything of actual value that you might add to the debate.
I think I spent several posts providing links between each of their points and a website that described every type of logical fallacy, and yet that was completely ignored. I couldn’t have spelled it out any better than that, yet it didn’t change a thing… well, I think ZEB must’ve learned the term “straw man” so maybe it wasn’t all so bad–however, he did use it incorrectly against the point you made earlier… which is fallacy in itself. sigh You can bring a horse to water, but you can’t force him to drink. Or however that saying goes.
Of course, if everyone’s still having fun, then keep going. Maybe I’ll join the fray once again… Nah! Even this post is too much.
Happy New Year!