[quote]slimjim wrote:
Zeb, I’m not trying to single you out at all, but come on man! What is your evidence, other than a few lines out of the Bible, that gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry.[/quote]
First, we are a Judeo/Christian society. I know the Godless wonders would have you believe that this is not the case, but they are quite wrong! About 90% of the population believes in God. You would think it’s about 50/50 if you read some of the threads on this forum, but that’s not the case. Hence, the Bible does matter!
In a previous post you stated: “Whatever happened to separation of church and state.” Do you know why there is a “separation of church and state?” The founding fathers wanted to make certain that the government did not establish one religion for all. It was to protect people from having the government establish one religion.
To hear the Atheists talk you would think that it was so that no religion should be respected in any part of our society. This is utter nonsense. People in this country want religion and to believe in God. Therefore, “a few lines in the Bible” and a 5000 year old tradition mean far more to most than they apparently do to some who enjoy bashing God and making fun of all who believe in such a higher power.
Furthermore, it is not incumbent upon me, or anyone else to show why gay marriage would be disastrous for this country. There is no “gay marriage” and there never has been in any civilized society!
It is up to those of you who think that pleasing probably far less than .05% of the population by changing perhaps the most important part of our societal fabric is a legitimate idea! So far your side has failed to do. Not just on this thread but across the country in 11 states which had a referendum on the matter.
Voters in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah all voted down gay marriage by very wide margins. In fact, the measure approved in Oklahoma went one step further by making it a misdemeanor crime to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple!
It’s not catching on, and the reason is that there is no compelling evidence why such a great change should take place! In short your side has failed miserably to give good solid reasons why a 5000 year old institution should be changed.
There is zero evidence to indicate that gay marriage would be beneficial to our society. And why would you change such a thing if it did not benefit society? There are obvious arguments for leaving marriage as it is, take your pick: You can base this on the Bible. You can base this on health statistics. You can base this on social values or tradition. You can base it on the fact that it effects a fraction of one percent of the population. It matters not what you base it on. However, not one good argument for compelling such a dramatic change has been put forth.
Arguments such as “they are born that way” are weak as this has not yet been proven. lothario’s emotional appeal that it (gay marriage) “would make all of his gay friends happy” carries no weight either. I’m sure that you could make a far larger percentage of the population (of males) happy if we declared that marriage did not have to be monogamous. Does anyone suggest we do this? (that’s a rhetorical question:)
And finally those who say that homosexuals cannot change still have to give a logical explanation for those who do in fact change! They marry have children and by their own accounts are quite happy. This needs to be explained by more than one liners such as “they must be closet homosexuals.”
Thus far not one good point has been made by anyone on this thread (or nationally) as to why we must rush out and sanction gay marriage. Perhaps you would like to make the first good point in favor of gay marriage.
I will await your response.