[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]Westclock wrote:
[quote]Oleena wrote:
I’m beginning to wonder what “a woman using her sexuality over men” consists of.
For instance, I was offered a job at a mortgage firm once based soley on my “assets” (the manager’s words) and decided to accept it (he literally walked out of his office as I was walking by dressed in a business suit in a way to my job at a department store and asked if I wanted a job). In that field, it’s all about looks and charisma, even though the job description is exclusively number crunching and networking. Is that using my sexual assets over men? [/quote]
Unfortunately, no one will ever escape the base instincts.
Women are the female. They are valued for their ability to produce healthy children that carry and express favorable genes.
Which automatically means women at the core are valued most highly by all for their youth and beauty.
Men are the male. And are therefore valued almost exclusively for their ability to produce genetically superior offspring (genes) and to provide, protect, and care for the female during her vulnerable pregnancy, and then for the children themselves.
Men are valued for their power and not much else.
Physical power, financial resources, influence, etc.
Its all just forms of power.
Women will never be valued at basic instinct level in society for their power, or intelligence to the same degree that a male is as it is his genetic purpose.
Nor will they ever break away from the youth/beauty stigma, as it is their genetic purpose.
Weak males with no power, financial, influence, etc are valueless to females, they dont even glance at them.
Just as ugly or older females are worthless to males.
Cuts both ways, just in different forms, women complain about it more in my opinion, but few people consider how shattering it is to “weak” males that cant do much about their situation.
Women blame men for discrimination but we dont always realize we are doing it, nor would it even make sense for us to treat people of less worth as equals to others; just to be “politically correct”.
Women do the same exact thing to countless men. But you never see women acknowledge that.[/quote]
If you remove physical power from the equation, there is little to differentiate men and women on a practical level. Physical strength is irrelevant in a modern world and is even considered a negative quality (just look at stereotypes.) That doesn’t mean it’s correct but it’s what fashion currently dictates in some circles. What you’re saying is that there is no sociological basis for the status quo and we’re just living out our base biological urges. That’s a pretty bold statement for an animal that has enjoyed a very successful survival based on it’s incredible ability to adapt largely due to it’s highly social behavior…
If you want to look at the reality of the distribution of power as an example of genetic fate then you would have to also consider racial inequities. Is that also a result of base instinct?
A better explanation would be that humans have a limited capacity for understanding and perpetuate patterns of ideas that we can understand.
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Dont get me wrong.
I tremendously enjoy the rise of women as equal financial providers.
Men die nearly a decade sooner, and its not simply because we are riskier and built to burn harder, faster, and not as long.
Men for years, my father’s generation included, endured tremendous stress and burden of responsibility.
To have several lives depend almost solely upon your ability to succeed is ABSURD responsibility.
Men bore all the responsibility, really until recently in our history.
I am literally ALL for women sharing equal parts of this responsibility if they wish to. We would never admit it, but the double income family is the largest blow to the male ego in centuries, but also the greatest relief you can imagine.
At the core, our loved ones are more important than our egos.
Women have NEARLY the same earning potential as men these days, its only slightly less due to the fact that women are on average less assertive and aggressive, but again that is mostly hormonal differences.
Physicality can never truly be removed from the equation as it is so deeply rooted in base instincts, tall people for example make more money simply because they demand more respect for no other reason than that they are above others phsycially.
And men are simply more aggressive and decisive on average, a male will make a decision quickly and stand behind it 100%, even if it is based on nothing but a hunch.
This works well in snap decision making, war, business, etc.
A wrong decision made with 100% is always still better than wavering and making no decision.
Men have advantages over women in many areas, and I doubt that is likely to change ever. But those advantages are not incredibly significant on average, and women are moving foward fast enough that I think we will see interesting changes in the next few generations…
I honestly do not think that women will ever have more power than men, simply because they do not WISH to have more.
Equal ? maybe. But in my experience, women like to feel weak compared to their male, protected. Its a base instinct, it can be overridden, but its a bit too natural to ignore.
I assert that women are not completely equal to men because at this time men have advantages they are simply born with. AND because simply women do not have the desire to become the dominant sex, they WANT to be slightly lower.
It sounds absurd, but if you think about it from a personal perspective, it really is true.