Doesn’t change that you used the table to discuss the impact of welfare. Legal immigrants with children are still significantly more likely to use welfare than natives. Not only that, but they are more likely to use welfare than illegal immigrants when childless…You used the term “parasitical.” Are Legal immigrants parasitical?
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Why risk even that if those boss-men can just pull up and pick up a load of natives? It doesn’t make sense, Cortes. The rubber of your argument isn’t meeting the road.
In society there are makers and takers. The makers create wealth and takers leech off the makers. Anyone who is presently leeching off the makers is a parasite.
Again, we can discuss legal immigration I have no problem with that but even if legal immigrants are heavily using welfare that does not excuse the heavy use of welfare by ILLEGAL ones.
How does that change to figures on your table? Your class of people are parasitical in comparison to the native population.
I don’t actually mean it, and I’m happy you’re here. I’m just saying, think twice about pointing fingers at a group of people for what they consume (parasitical) when eyes might just drift over to the category your group (though not you as an individual) falls under…
I agree that legal immigration is a mess and that also needs to be heavily reformed. But the US needs to start with addressing the illegal ones first. Once that’s been addressed the US can look towards formulating a sane immigration policy.
A big problem in general is the welfare state. I think a lot of people would not even coming to the US legally or otherwise if they knew the government wasn’t shelling out money and free stuff.
Illegal immigrants are such wonderful people I think we need to invite more in from Mexico:
2015 research on illegal alien crime
Illegal alien crime significantly threatens the welfare and safety of Americans.
Sadly for Americans, the Obama administration has ordered criminal illegal aliens to be released by ICE. An extensive report revealing convictions of criminal aliens released and placed in non-custodial settings in 2015 was submitted to the U.S. House of Representatives. See: Criminal convictions of illegal aliens released by ICE in 2015.
Excerpts from the article Illegal Alien Violence and Crime by the Numbers - We’re All Victims, The Conservative Papers, July 15, 2015, reveal the following startling facts:
• The New York Times reports that about 4.5 million illegal aliens in the U.S. drive on a regular basis, many without licenses or insurance, or even the ability to read road signs written in English.
• the Office of Immigration Statistics reported that of the 188,382 deportations of illegal aliens in 2011, 23 percent had committed criminal traffic offenses (primarily driving under the influence). Congressman Steve King (R-IA) estimates that illegal alien drunk drivers kill 13 Americans every day — that’s a death toll of 4,745 per year.
• According to the Center for Immigration Studies, another 23 percent, more than 43,000 illegal aliens, were convicted of drug offenses. The violent crime category of assault, robbery, sexual assault, and family offenses comes to 12 percent.
• Pinal County is roughly 70 miles north of the border. In 2010, the U.S. Border Patrol reported 212,202 illegal aliens were caught in the Tucson sector alone. The Border Patrol admits for everyone captured, another 2.7 make it into the United States undetected. Of the individuals who are apprehended, as many as 30% of them already have a criminal record in the United States.
• The liberal Huffington Post writer Chris Kirkham recently noted that, “this year, more than 60 percent of all federal criminal convictions have been for immigration-related crimes, federal data show.”…
• illegal reentry under Title 8, Section 1326 of the United States Code was the most commonly recorded lead charge brought by federal prosecutors during the first half of FY 2011. It alone accounted for 47 percent of all criminal immigration prosecutions filed. The average prison sentence was 14 months for those convicted
• arrests by the U.S. Border Patrol of individuals from countries other than Mexico have increased from 59,000 in FY 2010 to 99,000 in FY 2012.
• In a 2007 Government Accountability Office study of 55,322 illegal aliens, analysts discovered that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about eight arrests per illegal alien: 70 percent had between two and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests.
• An FBI crime study shows that 75 percent of those on the most wanted criminals list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
• One quarter of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals, as are more than 40 percent of all inmates in Arizona and 48 percent in New Mexico jails.
• Over 53 percent of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
• 63 percent of cited drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that number, 97 percent are illegal aliens. 66 percent of cited drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66 percent, 98 percent are illegal aliens.
• there are
at least 70,000 MS-13 gang members operating between Central America and the United States.