I got a little choked up looking at the picture when I first saw it, it reminded me of when my dad carried the POW flag in parades and how people would come over and hug him. Today though I just noticed the Pearl Harbor veteran has on a “Live Strong” Lance Armstrong wristband. Very cool
[quote]GJA_BOSTON wrote:
timmwwaa wrote:
I turned off my “Powerful Images” today. If I wish to look at propaganda I’ll turn on my television.
Realize that those two brave men fought
to give you the right to say what you did.
you may not agree with the current war, but you should respect them for their
bravery and sacrifice, and especially
respect “the greatest generation”
otherwise, for dissent, you would have been:
-locked up in a russian gulag
-put in a concentration camp
-shot in the head in town center.
[/quote]
Yes I realize that there are many brave soldiers who fought for our country. However I have no idea why the U.S. in Iraq has anything to do with our freedoms in the U.S. Furthermore if everyone is forced to think the same in this country are we really free?
[quote]timmwwaa wrote:
I turned off my “Powerful Images” today. If I wish to look at propaganda I’ll turn on my television.[/quote]
Listen buddy. These soldiers didn’t choose to fight this war, but they are. And you’d better thank your lucky stars, otherwise you could be the one in a world of shit wondering if you were going to make it back home in one piece, if at all.
[quote]timmwwaa wrote:
I turned off my “Powerful Images” today. If I wish to look at propaganda I’ll turn on my television.[/quote]
Fucking Canadians.
[quote]timmwwaa wrote:
Yes I realize that there are many brave soldiers who fought for our country. However I have no idea why the U.S. in Iraq has anything to do with our freedoms in the U.S. Furthermore if everyone is forced to think the same in this country are we really free?[/quote]
Broken resolutions. 9/11.
'nuff said
I was actually in the same unit as Graunke down at Camp Lejeune back in 99. I knew that I would eventually see someone in the paper or on the news that I know. I am just glad it wasn’t a circumstance of an individual how died. It is still unfortunate.
JC
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
timmwwaa wrote:
Yes I realize that there are many brave soldiers who fought for our country. However I have no idea why the U.S. in Iraq has anything to do with our freedoms in the U.S. Furthermore if everyone is forced to think the same in this country are we really free?
Broken resolutions. 9/11.
'nuff said[/quote]
Please, let’s not turn this into something political. I could care less about how much I disagree or agree with the war when I see images like this. Do you honestly think that every American servicemember Iraq agrees with the war? They have a job to do. And they’re doing it. And some are losing their lives doing it. Whether or not you agree is irrelevent, these people are taking great risks and making huge sacrifices.
This is the kind of powerful image I like. One, it’s a nice break from the miniskirts and bodybuilders. Two, it embodies a different type of “powerful” than we’ve seen posted here before. Personally, I would like to see more of a variety of powerful images. I can’t quite put into words what I’m looking for, but I like the kind of pictures that when you look at them, you know they qualify as “powerful”.
[quote]timmwwaa wrote:
I turned off my “Powerful Images” today. If I wish to look at propaganda I’ll turn on my television.[/quote]
Please turn it back on and take a long hard look at the WW2 veteran also, he is one of the millions of reasons we don’t all speak German today. Nobody likes war but that doesn’t mean you stop supporting the men and women who serve our country regardless of your personal opinion, wheather you see it as right or wrong .
By far the most powerful yet of the Powerful Images.
Do yourself a favor and ignore people like timmwwaa. Don’t dignify posts like that with a response.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
timmwwaa wrote:
Yes I realize that there are many brave soldiers who fought for our country. However I have no idea why the U.S. in Iraq has anything to do with our freedoms in the U.S. Furthermore if everyone is forced to think the same in this country are we really free?
Broken resolutions. 9/11.
'nuff said
Please, let’s not turn this into something political. I could care less about how much I disagree or agree with the war when I see images like this. Do you honestly think that every American servicemember Iraq agrees with the war? They have a job to do. And they’re doing it. And some are losing their lives doing it. Whether or not you agree is irrelevent, these people are taking great risks and making huge sacrifices.
This is the kind of powerful image I like. One, it’s a nice break from the miniskirts and bodybuilders. Two, it embodies a different type of “powerful” than we’ve seen posted here before. Personally, I would like to see more of a variety of powerful images. I can’t quite put into words what I’m looking for, but I like the kind of pictures that when you look at them, you know they qualify as “powerful”. [/quote]
Why not discuss the political aspect? The truth is, every American should be thankful for every person in the military making sacrifices for this country. However, the truth also is, the military has been used as a political machine in this “war”. If some want to discuss it, they have that right. As long as they give respect for the people who have lost limbs and lives for this country, silencing those voices goes AGAINST what this country is supposed to stand for.
The “Powerful Image” is a picture of what many have lost and given up just so that people can have the right to say what they want when they want. Any discussion that shows hard feelings towards what lead us into this current situation shouldn’t be silenced.
It is more than possible, however, to voice that opinion without showing any disrespect for the people who made freedom possible. That should also be remembered.
a few weeks ago i was considering posting about how “powerful images” should, in fact, consist of powerful images. much like this one.
thank you Testosterone!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why not discuss the political aspect? The truth is, every American should be thankful for every person in the military making sacrifices for this country. However, the truth also is, the military has been used as a political machine in this “war”. If some want to discuss it, they have that right. As long as they give respect for the people who have lost limbs and lives for this country, silencing those voices goes AGAINST what this country is supposed to stand for.
The “Powerful Image” is a picture of what many have lost and given up just so that people can have the right to say what they want when they want. Any discussion that shows hard feelings towards what lead us into this current situation shouldn’t be silenced.
It is more than possible, however, to voice that opinion without showing any disrespect for the people who made freedom possible. That should also be remembered.
[/quote]
This is all true, but I think that everyone gets that this image is meant to evoke feelings of pride in and gratitude for the sacrifices made by our military men who sign up to put their lives on the line in defense of our country. The political content of what may have led to these wars is not relevant in this context, in my opinion.
Nobody thinks that this Powerful Image represents an endorsement of the war in Iraq by T-Nation, do they?
Prof X,
[quote]ChrisPowers
Nobody thinks that this Powerful Image represents an endorsement of the war in Iraq by T-Nation, do they?[/quote]
That’s what I’m saying here. I have no problem discussing the war. In fact, for the record, I’m against it. But, I interpreted this thread as sort of an “appreciation” for a new type of powerful image. That’s all.
There’s a politics section(which I never go to anymore because of the hate and ignorance spewed down there, not everybody, but a few people ruined it for me) where we can discuss the war. I just like this break from cleavage and I think this powerful image meant more than any pic of Lee Priest ever could. In no way am I trying to silence anybody. I apologize if I was misunderstood.
[quote]timmwwaa wrote:
I turned off my “Powerful Images” today. If I wish to look at propaganda I’ll turn on my television.[/quote]
I too disagree with the war in Iraq, however it is for tactical and long term socio-economic and political reasons, not some knee-jerk I’m a democrat and he’s a republican reactionism. Timmwwaa, I invite you to, for a moment forget the circumstances that surround the war, and look at the picture and feel it. Feel what it takes to put yourself in that situation. Hear the sounds of combat, and see the devastation and keep these words in your mind from this moment on…
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
President Theodore Roosevelt
Paris, Sorbonne 1910
Sincerely,
Allen V. Burnsworth
Sergeant-Retired
United States Army Airborne Rangers
RLTW