Portland's Inequality Tax

You have two choices; rent or buy. Lets say you rent for $2k/mon for 50 years. That’s $1.2M. You’ve had a roof over your head, but nothing more. Now lets say you buy a $350k house at 4% over 30 years. To keep it simple, assume that’s a total cost of $800k (it’s probably less). Assume an avergae of $1K in repairs so another $50k. You’ve spent several hundred thousand less on a tangible asset with 30 years of inflation built in minus any deflation that occurs.

Not only is it an investment, but it’s a pretty darn safe one.

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Even more so when thinking of “estate” rather than “retirement”.

Land ownership is one of the fastest ways to create generational wealth, assuming you live anywhere near a population center.

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It’s not a fact.

lol, okay champ.

I’ll be sure to let everyone know so we can rewrite the whole of known economic, business and pricing theory because some shitposting commie said it isn’t so…

Good lord.

Ya, it’s a fact that companies will adjust their prices to account for external factors such as taxes if it’s deemed necessary.

Nah man, no way. It’s not a fact in pinko commie land. In the land of unicorn farts and fairy tales in which he lives, he can believe things into reality, and then live in his shared economic reality with others, in peace…

His mind never left Woodstock’s East lawn.

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Thank God. My mindset will save me when the economy collapses.

Business cares about making money. Government cares about its own continual growth and existence. One of them has guns. I would prefer that the one with guns have no involvement with the other.

We already have several bubbles at the moment. Can we turn this shit around fast enough is the question.

Lol, ya… It’s pretty frustrating trying to discuss a topic like this with a person that understands less than our summer interns.

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Can someone point out who ALL these evil shadow government corporations are that everyone says control everything and “enslave” all us plebs?

Please, a comprehensive list would be fantastic.

I’ve got some dough I’m looking to park in a “blue chip” for awhile, and these companies sound like sure fire winners.

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A home is an investment if you consider the alternatives. If you are renting a home (or anything else) you are paying their mortgage, their property tax and added profit. When buying you just have to pay 2 of those 3.

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It’s only not an investment if your sample size is 5 years, and that five years is 05-09

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The idea is that if you tax some of the wealth of the rich and redistribute in some way to the ones who have less (with an increase in the minimum wage or an inequality tax), that will only inflate the price of the things and will entirely cancel the effect of the tax or increase in the wage.

I don’t believe for example an increase of 25% percent of the minimum wage would increase the price of food and such of 25% or more. Can’t link all the costs to the wages of low salary employees. No way that all of the producers of something would artificially increase their prices to match exactly the wage increase. The remaining ones would benefit in not doing so.

But clearly there is no other way than CEO’s having sport cars and yatches (if only it was only that) and the employees not being able to make ends meet. The market works perfectly and the reason the very minority of the population owns the majority of the wealth is because of taxes and government regulations. If you like it like that way what can I say. Insignificant assholes all hate each other and all think they are the next CEO.

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Which ones do you suppose wouldn’t raise their prices as drastically?

… So, are you proposing that we should control how they spend their money?

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In that scenario the increase would be the opposite of artificial.

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Mine too, makes things interesting sometimes.

I was in college, as previously stated, and felt the brunt of it too. I couldn’t play baseball anymore, and was of no use to the team, so moved to northern California to finish my degree. My university was paid for, by scholarship, grants, me, but I couldn’t find a job. Like I literally applied to everything, flipping burgers at in n’ out, DQ, etc. I ended up just being homeless living in my car for 9 months, until I got a job.

My house will be listed in June, I’ll take my appreciation and start investing intentionally.

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At best, you’re looking at it all equaling zero in the end, but in fact the damages of central planning and market interference more often than not end up a net negative.

Otherwise places like the USSR, Cuba and Venezuela would be economic powerhouses. (In fact with it’s resources, how Venezuela isn’t one is a testament that “redistribution” doesn’t work.)

But let’s all ignore all those blatant real life examples, because what YOU believe is more important.

What you believe is completely irrelevant, just like your feelings. The fact of the matter is the following happens:

  1. You have an instant increase in bottom end costs, and likely have to cut your non-performers. The actual minimum wage is zero, and well that increase just put a few more people (black youth unemployment skyrockets after every increase. Which makes sense seeing as it was a racist policy put in place by Democrats to price blacks and immigrants out of the “white man’s job”.)

  2. You’re now experiencing wage creep, because the kids that have done well the last two year and gotten a couple raises and are now making $2 more than min, are suddenly making min again. So tier 2 needs a raise too, otherwise they are under paid. Maybe you cut a couple of them and tick up your prices a tad to cover it.

  3. Tier 3 of wage earners will want a bump now too, so on and so forth

  4. You’re overhead has gone up every time this happens. The costs on employing someone aren’t solely their wage, the typical factor used is 30%. So that means if you pay someone 100K a year, it actually costs you about 130K. So if you’re using a smaller min wage force and the increase only costs you about 100k a year in payroll, your actual costs go up 130k.

Any way you crack it, margins just got slimmer, say hello to increased prices. And that isn’t because “muh rich people with yachts” either. I could name 100 reasons to keep your margins healthy, but they would be lost on people who don’t know the first thing about business or economics and trust what they “believe” and feel.

Of course not… But you sure as shit can link a whole host of problems with your margin to sudden and forced increases in costs.

It isn’t official, and no, most will just fire people who make min wage if they can’t increase the price of goods. Or if possible, move operations to an environment not so hard to make money in.

One has skills only a couple of thousand people on Earth have, and the other likely has nothing in the way of marketable skills (or makes shit life choices). So yes, it is the “only way” that those who have a special talent or skill will get paid more.

Look up “incentive” when you get the chance.

Read a history book.

It. has. always. been. this. way.

It’s just now, if you’re born poor, you CAN become rich. Where in the past, you couldn’t.

Yeah. I’m not an envious little shit still living off their mommies’ tit and indoctrinated in Cannuck “university” leftist propaganda.

I have zero problem with someone having more than me. Even if they have billions and billions. I was happy making 13k a year and partying my ass off in college, and I’m happy now. And guess what, there has been people richer than men, and poorer than me the whole time.

You’re really judgmental of people you dont’ seem to agree with for all the hippy mumbo jumbo you type out here.

Peace, Love Dope Man…

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I love how it’s always the CEOs fault. How bout we take all of Aaron Roger’s money.

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Opening day player’ payroll for all 30 MLB teams was $3,633,530,244 this year. That’s quite a bit of money, considering they don’t employ as many people as a CEO with similar salary. :wink:

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He can keep his money, I’d take his girlfriend though. She’s hot and knows more about economics than some people posting in this thread.

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It’s funny, we’ve been dealing with the wage creep (we call it wage compression) in MD for a couple of years now. I’ve talked about it a few time on here, but, generally, the folks in favor of a minimum wage bump just don’t get it or flat out ignore it. It cost us another roughly $2M this year.

People also tend to ignore the fact that head count is like numero uno where expense reduction occurs.

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