POP! Goes the Democrat!

Interesting theory, but I think he’s in it to win it.
What he won’t admit is that people planning mass shootings are law breakers by default, we don’t need additional laws.

If we are a nation of laws and people follow the law, like he claims, then we don’t need this law.

The only way to get all the semi-automatic rifles privately owned and legally bought requires force on those who won’t give them up, which means he is willing to use the governments guns against it’s own citizen’s to follow an unconstitutional law.

He puts police officers in danger by deliberately having them confiscate guns from people who have weapons that can do an awful lot of damage if the owner so chooses.

His law requires a constitutional amendment, because if passed it will go to the SCOTUS who will be forced to shoot (pardon the pun) it down based on the Bill of Rights, if not amended.

The Bill of Rights is damn near impossible to amend.

Lot’s of Democrats own guns too.

What gives you that feeling? He’s continuously saying things that are both obvious political blunders, but doubling down on things that have directly hurt him in polling with democrats.

Has he really not admitted that? That people who commit crimes aren’t law breakers by default? I’ll be honest I haven’t followed him much to know if he actually said that.

Agreed, but that’s how every ban in history has worked.

Has he claimed he would confiscate guns BEFORE a law is passed? I definitely haven’t seen that. If a law passes and isn’t struck down by SCOTUS (which would obviously happen prior to confiscation happening) then it’s not unconstitutional.

This doesn’t make any sense. By this logic, we shouldn’t confiscate anything from people with guns. Can’t be putting those LEOs in danger. I mean the cartels would love it, but I sure don’t.

Agreed. The above is why I think he’s the Dems goat on a chain. The VAST majority of Dems want nothing to do with his style of gun laws, which is obviously reflected by his already poor polling getting worse as he doubles down.

What he has done, is given conservatives somewhere to shift their focus that was never an actual threat. Now they’re getting themselves all hyped up over something that was never going to happen anyways.

The Dems are fucking horrible at manipulating voters via politics compared to the GOP, but I think they cranked a home run here. Goats on chains are suppppper easy bait.

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So Elijah Cummings just died and the Trump Whitehouse lowered the flag to half mast and said nice things about him.

Hell just froze over a little bit. Wonders never cease.

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Wow I had the odds on that as lower than Trump sending out a tweet that said ding dong that n words dead with a picture of his face.

Hell freezing over a bit earlier this year.

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@pat - didn’t see an answer from you on this.

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Do you have a couple of non lying politicians, so that there is a baseline to compare?

George Washington, Rufus T. Firefly and Mayor McCheese.

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Well so is Biden, but I don’t think either of them are trying to look foolish, they just are being foolish. Besides it doesn’t make much sense to throw the race in order that other candidates would win, unless he’s getting paid-off somehow. And I am not certain, but I am pretty sure that’s illegal.

I heard an interview with him discussing it the day after the debate. I am serious as a heart attack, that yes he really did say things of that level of ridiculousness. If I can find the footage I will share it, I just don’t remember who was interviewing him.

In places that never had a Constitutional guarantee on t he right to bear arms.

No he claimed he would pass a law, first. But unless it’s a constitutional amendment, it will not survive the SCOTUS.

Think about it, Joe Blow has a flag flying over his property with a picture of an AR and a quote under it saying “Out of my cold dead hands”, what do you think is going to happen there is the police show up to confiscate his guns when he’s unwilling to give them up? Shoot out.

They have been pretty terrible at messaging. Free Medicare for illegals? Gun bans? Taking away tax free status of churches that don’t support LGBT-XYZ marriage? Killing off the electoral college?
Just this list requires 3 constitutional amendments.
I don’t think most people are for burning America as we know it down, at least people that don’t belong to ANTIFA.
They do make Obama sound like a Republican in comparison.

Imo there’s a very large distinction between the 2 styles of comments. There’s an even bigger distinction between the effects on their polling.

If a person’s goal is to boost the Democratic party, it seems to make a ton of sense. Look at how many members of the GOP can’t stop talking about him or AOC, despite neither of them actually doing anything or having widescale support for their crazy ideas.

Goats on chains.

Would be interested to see it.

I’m talking about the concept of banning any item ever. Cocaine has been banned, and those that don’t hand it over requires force to take it. It’s the nature of force

So he said he’d be following the standard practices of laws being created?

You had said “he is willing to use the government’s guns against its own citizens to follow an unconstitutional law.”

Seems like he’s not willing to do anything of the sort.

I think that person, 999/1000 times would reveal themselves to not be dedicated enough to die for their guns. I think they’d do nothing.

I don’t agree with the law, but I also have way more faith in most citizens that they would try to murder some cops.

Imo anyone willing to do a shootout in your scenario would only validate the need to have them taken.

I’m personally very much on board with the above 2, except I don’t care what type of marriages churches allow.

Well I never said he would do it without a law but he can get started on it so long as no one challenges it in court. Granted such a law has almost 0% chance of passing and it’s chance of surviving the SCOTUS is not going to happen. He’s not going to be elected, ever so it’s kind of moot.

That’s still 350,000 people. If that many people are willing to put up a fight, that’s still a lot of people and a lot of blood.

It’s fine to want those things, but the government cannot get them by trying to force a church to bend it’s religious doctrine. That is expressly prohibited in the 1st amendment. If you want to end the tax status of churches, that’s fine but you cannot use the power of the government to change church dogma.

I found the interview, it’s painfully stupid.

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I’d be surprised that 350,000 are willing to murder cops implementing a law. Also, wouldn’t 350k mean that every citizen has an assault rifle? Not sure if that shakes out to my 999/1000 scenario.

I’d be happy to just remove the tax status. The dogma is dying more and more every year without govt help.

Oh, you need to up and read the posts. Pat is attacking Warren as a candidate because she has lied/is lying to get ahead.

What do you think? Is lying to get ahead wrong and disqualifying for the presidency? Yes or no?

When you are race baiting, claiming a race you do not belong to, to get benefits that do not belong to you is certainly wrong. But bad policy is the main disqualification for being president.

The funny thing is that Pat’s life would probably improve under Warren…but, but, abortion.

You didn’t answer my question.

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He’s probably not supporting a candidate who isn’t in favor of having snipers on the wall shooting anyone near it.

You know, the Christian thing to be in favor of.

AOC endorses BERNIE!!!

WooHoo!

And you guys KNOW what I am going to say…:

MAGA

4 more years…!

He only murdered a peaceful French diplomatic detachment and started a war. Then there was that time he cheated his soldiers out of the land he had promised them… I could go on. But you know the history.

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If you looked at the two names that followed him, you would have an idea about what I was getting at (hint: they are fictional).