[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
A letter NOT written by Jesus?
I’m not sure how that’s relevant to christians. Christ didn’t leave a bible or any letters. He left a church and it’s apostles.
Anyways, to the topic; sure why not. Hate to tell anyone no.
Well if someones talks about Jesus teachings and yet quotes Paul…
Who spread Jesus’s teaching through the world?
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Who cares.
That was NOT Jesus teachings.
[quote]orion wrote:
But if I claim that Peter said something and yet I quote Dick, Tom or Harry, that is not cool.
See?
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No, I don’t see. If you want to argue from the christian perspective, if polygamy is still acceptable, then you must accept the apostles for the sake of the argument. Otherwise, you’re just wasting everyone’s time. Perhaps there is one, but I don’t know of any denomination that challenges the authority of the apostles. It is so fundamental, that to dismiss them as you’re doing, is bizarre. Say it’s all nonsense, or just leave it alone. But this is silly.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
But if I claim that Peter said something and yet I quote Dick, Tom or Harry, that is not cool.
See?
No, I don’t see. If you want to argue from the christian perspective, if polygamy is still acceptable, then you must accept the apostles for the sake of the argument. Otherwise, you’re just wasting everyone’s time. Perhaps there is one, but I don’t know of any denomination that challenges the authority of the apostles. It is so fundamental, that to dismiss them as you’re doing, is bizarre. Say it’s all nonsense, or just leave it alone. But this is silly.[/quote]
But he did not say Christians.
He said followers of Jesus.
Which is apparently not the same, because Jesus did not obsess about sex, Paul however did the miserable old spinster.
[quote]orion wrote:
Which is apparently not the same, because Jesus did not obsess about sex, Paul however did the miserable old spinster.
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What are you talking about now?
Edit: No, you know what? Nevermind. I’ve got a headache as it is.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Which is apparently not the same, because Jesus did not obsess about sex, Paul however did the miserable old spinster.
What are you talking about now?
Edit: No, you know what? Nevermind. I’ve got a headache as it is.[/quote]
I recommend pot.
[quote]orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I recommend pot.
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Think I’ll stick with aspirin…
…though they’re harder to roll!
Is this where we question if Jesus was gay?
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
Is this where we question if Jesus was gay?[/quote]
I’ve always heard questioning someone else’s sexuality was a sure sign one was conflicted about one’s own sexuality. So, I’ll have to pass.
No conflict here. 
Right or Wrong? Neither. How about awesome?
Well could it be possible that Paul was talking about the Corinthians marrying pagan women and that it was better to be like Paul without a wife?
Here is context: Christian church in a pagan environment, this could be a problem because you could be persuaded by your wife or husband to be adulterous towards God.
[quote]10But to the married I give instructions, (J)not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband
11(but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife. [/quote]
You can see that Paul here is saying the Lord gave these instructions. Do you think the Lord’s message is saying that if you do marry a pagan wife, do like Solomon and put your wife away just do not divorce her because that would one put her out of God’s grace, and if your husband is a pagan do not break your marriage vows or you’ll be out of God’s grace?
I grew up in Southern Utah, the heart of polygamy country (before they all moved to Texas and got on the news). I did not think the polygamists had a good thing going from my vantage point. The women seemed to me to be oppressed by the lifestyle (probably more so from all the chilren they had to bear and raise). By the way, they all believed in the Jesus of the New Testament.
This took off at a tangent…
I just point out that John Adams, who triggered this off shoot definitely did not believe Jesus was God. Maybe Paul did, but that is a different story.
[quote]TQB wrote:
This took off at a tangent…
I just point out that John Adams, who triggered this off shoot definitely did not believe Jesus was God. Maybe Paul did, but that is a different story.[/quote]
And your proof.
Is that agreement (in which case it hardly answers the original question) or a request for substantiation? If the latter, Adams as many of the Colonial elite was a Unitarian and would not have believed in the trinity, ie God and Jesus are separate. QED