[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Does anyone know it’s true origins?[/quote]
Frankfurt school.
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Does anyone know it’s true origins?[/quote]
Frankfurt school.[/quote]
This right here.
Years ago, over summer during college we were having a party at the house. A group of us were standing in the back yard around the keg. My one homeboy had been working construction over the summer with his uncle, the construction manager. Dude’s uncle had been giving him the most unpleasant jobs. And wanted them done quickly.
My friend had a specific term for the way his uncle had been working him. Just as he used this term, our other friend, a black guy, walked out on the back porch and overheard what he was saying. Everyone wishes it hadn’t happened.
Jokes are fun, but don’t be that guy.
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
Years ago, over summer during college we were having a party at the house. A group of us were standing in the back yard around the keg. My one homeboy had been working construction over the summer with his uncle, the construction manager. Dude’s uncle had been giving him the most unpleasant jobs. And wanted them done quickly. My friend had a specific term for the way his uncle had been working him. Just as he used this term, our other friend, a black guy, walked out on the back porch and overheard what he was saying. Everyone wishes it hadn’t happened.
Jokes are fun, but don’t be that guy.[/quote]
I believe we are speaking of political correctness versus political incorrectness in mature terms that affect how we live our lives and what we say and the oppression and mistreartment of politically incorrect people, not indecent statements or terms like “the N word”, k—, s—, f–, or whatever.
Anyway, this is how MANY people, those who we wouldn’t assume to do so, speak in private, behind closed doors, and it’s not something that can be controlled.
If somebody “vouches” for you, by hanging out with you, or electing you, or hiring you, or giving you their business, you are associated with them. Your actions reflect on them. Don’t embarass them, or cause a scene, or mess up their money, or put them on the spot with your words or actions.
Politics is about being popular. Popular people don’t say unpopular stuff. Politically speaking, it’s incorrect.
-another story
There was going to be a funeral for a fallen soldier in the next town. Those clowns who stir up trouble at soldier’s funerals announced they were coming. The regional biker hand showed up before them and got set up. Those other dudes decided not to have their little protest anymore. Nobody stepped up to secure their rights to free speech, so I have to agree with what you are saying.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I think political correctness is a way for people to claim the moral high ground without having to do anything to earn it.
I know a man who has been a volunteer firefighter and EMT for 50+ years. He will get up at 3 in the morning and leave his family to help a perfect stranger. And yet he will call someone “colored” or “oriental”, or even “wetback”, without malice. People who haven’t done and will never do near as much to help their fellow human would be quick to denounce him as a bigot, as a way of saying “I’m better than that guy!”[/quote]
Are you for real?
It is not a way of saying “I’m better than that guy!” He is an asshole.[/quote]
(facepalm) perfectly illustrating uncle gab’s point…
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Yeah, I should have used the phrase “refer to” as the man would never disrespect anyone to their face, but then he might not be aware that “oriental” is offensive.
Anyway, I deliberately commit a violation of the tenants of political correctness by referring to a friend of mine as an “old black guy” when telling stories about him to folks who have never met him.
“Ooh, why’s he got to be an old black guy,” the morons always say.
Because he is descended from African slaves who were brought to this country against their will, and was born in the Jim Crow south in 1949, which means he’s put up with a lot of shit in his life. I acknowledge and pay respect to that rather than pretend like it never happened and we’re all color blind now. Fuck that.
All I know about pc is that the first victim of political correctness is the truth!
And that’s just about all we need to know to fully understand that unless we make a stand against it we will absolutely be ruined…eventually.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I think political correctness is a way for people to claim the moral high ground without having to do anything to earn it.
I know a man who has been a volunteer firefighter and EMT for 50+ years. He will get up at 3 in the morning and leave his family to help a perfect stranger. And yet he will call someone “colored” or “oriental”, or even “wetback”, without malice. People who haven’t done and will never do near as much to help their fellow human would be quick to denounce him as a bigot, as a way of saying “I’m better than that guy!”[/quote]
Are you for real?
It is not a way of saying “I’m better than that guy!” He is an asshole.[/quote]
(facepalm) perfectly illustrating uncle gab’s point…
[/quote]
Yeah, I should have used the phrase “refer to” as the man would never disrespect anyone to their face, but then he might not be aware that “oriental” is offensive.
Anyway, I deliberately commit a violation of the tenants of political correctness by referring to a friend of mine as an “old black guy” when telling stories about him to folks who have never met him.
“Ooh, why’s he got to be an old black guy,” the morons always say.
Because he is descended from African slaves who were brought to this country against their will, and was born in the Jim Crow south in 1949, which means he’s put up with a lot of shit in his life. I acknowledge and pay respect to that rather than pretend like it never happened and we’re all color blind now. Fuck that.[/quote]
I am trying to get this straight. Are the PC people you refer to offended that you call someone who is old and black and male an “old black guy”? It seems that PC people come up with more and more terms deemed offensive when last I checked none of the words old, black, and guy have negative connotations.
If someone stated I am a mid-30’s Jewish guy I would not find reasons to be offended.
My grandfather had probably a grand total of four to five years of education and didn’t have the best grip on the English language and would regularly refer to Asians as Chinamen and Orientals without ANY offensive intent, considering he had a fondness for Asians. He used the term in the same way people use Irishmen and Frenchmen.
And no, he didn’t “think he was better” than anyone considering he was born dirt poor and recognized his shortcomings, and was pretty open about them too. He actually was a man for the underdog and was more altruistic than most people, a truly selfless person.
This word weaving that PC people do gets a bit tiresome.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I think political correctness is a way for people to claim the moral high ground without having to do anything to earn it.
I know a man who has been a volunteer firefighter and EMT for 50+ years. He will get up at 3 in the morning and leave his family to help a perfect stranger. And yet he will call someone “colored” or “oriental”, or even “wetback”, without malice. People who haven’t done and will never do near as much to help their fellow human would be quick to denounce him as a bigot, as a way of saying “I’m better than that guy!”[/quote]
Are you for real?
It is not a way of saying “I’m better than that guy!” He is an asshole.[/quote]
(facepalm) perfectly illustrating uncle gab’s point…
[/quote]
Yeah, I should have used the phrase “refer to” as the man would never disrespect anyone to their face, but then he might not be aware that “oriental” is offensive.
Anyway, I deliberately commit a violation of the tenants of political correctness by referring to a friend of mine as an “old black guy” when telling stories about him to folks who have never met him.
“Ooh, why’s he got to be an old black guy,” the morons always say.
Because he is descended from African slaves who were brought to this country against their will, and was born in the Jim Crow south in 1949, which means he’s put up with a lot of shit in his life. I acknowledge and pay respect to that rather than pretend like it never happened and we’re all color blind now. Fuck that.[/quote]
I am trying to get this straight. Are the PC people you refer to offended that you call someone who is old and black and male an “old black guy”? It seems that PC people come up with more and more terms deemed offensive when last I checked none of the words old, black, and guy have negative connotations.
If someone stated I am a mid-30’s Jewish guy I would not find reasons to be offended.
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I think that PC people believe that identifying someone by their race at all is offensive, as if we’re all supposed to be color blind, and race is no more defining a characteristic than hair color.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
My grandfather had probably a grand total of four to five years of education and didn’t have the best grip on the English language and would regularly refer to Asians as Chinamen and Orientals without ANY offensive intent, considering he had a fondness for Asians. [/quote]
Political correct speech is ever changing, there is no end, and to those who practice it, that is the whole point. Things that were once politically correct, are now seen as offensive. The “proper” language is constantly shifting and it is designed to be that way. In cultural Marxism there is no absolute truth, so there can be no absolute language.
I was told recently to not use the word handicapped because it was demeaning. I have even been told to refrain from describing someone as fat, for its too harsh. Words like Negro, Oriental, Midget, Pygmy, Alien, and so on were once accepted and are now frowned upon.
Ignore politically correct speech. Lions don’t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
Political correct speech is ever changing, there is no end, and to those who practice it, that is the whole point. Things that were once politically correct, are now seen as offensive. The “proper” language is constantly shifting and it is designed to be that way. In cultural Marxism there is no absolute truth, so there can be no absolute language.
I was told recently to not use the word handicapped because it was demeaning. I have even been told to refrain from describing someone as fat, for its too harsh. Words like Negro, Oriental, Midget, Pygmy, Alien, and so on were once accepted and are now frowned upon.
Ignore politically correct speech. Lions don’t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
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You seem to be a racist.
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
Political correct speech is ever changing, there is no end, and to those who practice it, that is the whole point. Things that were once politically correct, are now seen as offensive. The “proper” language is constantly shifting and it is designed to be that way. In cultural Marxism there is no absolute truth, so there can be no absolute language.
I was told recently to not use the word handicapped because it was demeaning. I have even been told to refrain from describing someone as fat, for its too harsh. Words like Negro, Oriental, Midget, Pygmy, Alien, and so on were once accepted and are now frowned upon.
Ignore politically correct speech. Lions don’t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
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You seem to be a racist.
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please explain how that’s racist ?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
Political correct speech is ever changing, there is no end, and to those who practice it, that is the whole point. Things that were once politically correct, are now seen as offensive. The “proper” language is constantly shifting and it is designed to be that way. In cultural Marxism there is no absolute truth, so there can be no absolute language.
I was told recently to not use the word handicapped because it was demeaning. I have even been told to refrain from describing someone as fat, for its too harsh. Words like Negro, Oriental, Midget, Pygmy, Alien, and so on were once accepted and are now frowned upon.
Ignore politically correct speech. Lions don’t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
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You seem to be a racist.
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please explain how that’s racist ? [/quote]
Yeah, x 2, please explain.
Also, the PC people seem to have several definitions for racism. Which one are we using here?
I’ve added you two to the Racist(and possibly homophobic and/or sexist…hell, maybe other things) List. Once someone is called a racist, it’s racist to initiate further conversation on the subject(unless agreeing with the person referring to another as a racist).
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
Political correct speech is ever changing, there is no end, and to those who practice it, that is the whole point. Things that were once politically correct, are now seen as offensive. The “proper” language is constantly shifting and it is designed to be that way. In cultural Marxism there is no absolute truth, so there can be no absolute language.
I was told recently to not use the word handicapped because it was demeaning. I have even been told to refrain from describing someone as fat, for its too harsh. Words like Negro, Oriental, Midget, Pygmy, Alien, and so on were once accepted and are now frowned upon.
Ignore politically correct speech. Lions don’t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
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You seem to be a racist.
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please explain how that’s racist ? [/quote]
Yeah, x 2, please explain.
Also, the PC people seem to have several definitions for racism. Which one are we using here? [/quote]
I’m not familiar with the PC race, but my definition is: Judging a person by any quality other than that person’s race. #onlythecollectivematters
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
Political correct speech is ever changing, there is no end, and to those who practice it, that is the whole point. Things that were once politically correct, are now seen as offensive. The “proper” language is constantly shifting and it is designed to be that way. In cultural Marxism there is no absolute truth, so there can be no absolute language.
I was told recently to not use the word handicapped because it was demeaning. I have even been told to refrain from describing someone as fat, for its too harsh. Words like Negro, Oriental, Midget, Pygmy, Alien, and so on were once accepted and are now frowned upon.
Ignore politically correct speech. Lions don’t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
[/quote]
You seem to be a racist.
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please explain how that’s racist ? [/quote]
Yeah, x 2, please explain.
Also, the PC people seem to have several definitions for racism. Which one are we using here? [/quote]
I’m not familiar with the PC race, but my definition is: Judging a person by any quality other than that person’s race. #onlythecollectivematters[/quote]
Your collective might not be my collective, and according to the race baiters, there are certainly differences between collectives.
Black Lives matter is it’s own collective, but if a White Lives Matters collective started, the other collective would spew the hateful rhetoric.
People may not want to admit it, but it is within our brain wiring to join our own collective based on the best probability for survival. It could be founded on race, age, political beliefs, sex, religion, etc.
We all side with our tribe, and like someone above mentioned, lions do not dine with the sheep.
Just my 2 cents here, but I remember a movement when the groups that PC speech claims to protect were trying to defuse the effectiveness of “those words” by “taking them back” and using them themselves.
In thinking about this, I’m actually pretty PC compliant. I’m kind of surprised to realize this because I am vehemently pro free speech and grew up around some very un-PC people. In my teens I was pretty prejudice but I was also a generally an angry at the world shithead. I grew out of it before I managed to do anything stupid. My only bad habit these days (based on PC standards) is “retard” and that’s often directed at myself.
I like Lenny Bruce’s take on words. Words only have the power that people give them. I think the witch-hunt for un PC people is motivated by political agenda rather than an attempt to protect anyone. I think the general public has bought it lock stock and barrel at face value, so it is now accepted practice to demonize anyone for a slip of the tongue.
I think someone’s sarcasm detector is broken.
Isn’t even Jerry Seinfeld not PC these days?