[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Polar Bear (white) vs AFRICAN Lion.
I see what you’re up to, HH.[/quote]
Actually, a polar bear has black skin.
Dead serious. [/quote]
But he obviously doesn’t reveal it because even in the Arctic the world is racist.[/quote]
Well, so far I was on the camouflage side of the argument, but, apparently, not even polar bears are safe from cross burnings…
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Polar Bear (white) vs AFRICAN Lion.
I see what you’re up to, HH.[/quote]
Actually, a polar bear has black skin.
Dead serious. [/quote]
But he obviously doesn’t reveal it because even in the Arctic the world is racist.[/quote]
Well, so far I was on the camouflage side of the argument, but, apparently, not even polar bears are safe from cross burnings…[/quote]
Cross burnings cause global warming, and polar bears are really at risk from reduced ice pack as it is.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Polar Bear (white) vs AFRICAN Lion.
I see what you’re up to, HH.[/quote]
Actually, a polar bear has black skin.
Dead serious. [/quote]
But he obviously doesn’t reveal it because even in the Arctic the world is racist.[/quote]
Well, so far I was on the camouflage side of the argument, but, apparently, not even polar bears are safe from cross burnings…[/quote]
Cross burnings cause global warming, and polar bears are really at risk from reduced ice pack as it is.[/quote]
So you are saying that cross burning a polar bear would really be a double entendre?
Damn, the KKK has put serious effort into leveling up!
[quote]Antonio. B wrote:
First of all, if you watched enough documentaries about wild African animals you already know that male lions are way bigger and heavier than female lions, and there is no comparison here at all… in real wildlife, when hunting for big buffalos, one male lion usually has a power of three female lions… I was surprised to see the power advantage of a male lion in comparison with a female…
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LOL @ being surprised
[quote]Antonio. B wrote:
OK, tiger isn’t really a competitor for lion here, not only because, to my surprise, a lion male looks noticeably bigger than a bengal tiger male, but also because long time ago I have seen a quite old 70’s wildlife doc when in one reservuar Indian bengal tiger faced African lion, and actually also to my surprise, tiger did’t even start the fight… but just slowly, with dignity, walked backwards, and then, not in a hurry, but run away… not like leopards or cheetahs do, but quite similar:)…
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LOL @ tiger < lion
[quote]Antonio. B wrote:
but OK, now that polar bear… hey man, if there were possible some neutral conditions for them to meet - not too called for a lion, and not too hot for a bear… that would be an interesting meet, because both of them - male lions, and male bears are the animals that never give up, and never run away… both have fighting style advantages over each other…
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LOL @ neutral conditions
LOL @ called instead of cold
LOL @ never giving up
LOL @ fighting style advantages
[quote]Antonio. B wrote:
most typically in such situation, a lion would jump from the distance, this way using all the momentum of his body weight, and with all the extremely strong and sharp guns attack the enemy… a bear can’t jump like a lion, but I suspect he could use his paws and claws even more effectively, and he has thicker skin with fur for protection… but lions have stronger bite measured in atmospheres than polar bears… but you know what, if I had to put my money, I would put on lion…
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LOL @ lion jumping
LOL @ lion tackling polar bear
LOL @ stronger bite force mattering
LOL @ betting on the lion
[quote]Antonio. B wrote:
I have been watching lots of doc about wild animals, reading literature… there is something more to the lion than just those statistics of measurements and so on… on paper… Male lions are created to fight and not only to hunt… that legendary aggressive lion’s look at the enemy alone is very unique and not to be underestimated… To me, lion still remains the king. Polar bear is even stronger than lion, but in my opinion lion would be better suited for this particular type of fight. [/quote]
LOL @ getting spiritual about lions
LOL @ created to fight
LOL @ legendary aggressive lion
LOL @ lion being better suited
[quote]putter2712 wrote:
Well lion versus a bear had been done. Lion vs bear fights where used as entertainment in England in the late 19th ce tury and the bear won, every time, convincingly. Aparently jaws + fists > jaws and it simply broke the lions skull. With polar bears being larger than their mild climate counterparts id have to say the same outcome would result.[/quote]
Here’s a link that discusses this. From what I understand, bears have much denser bones then cats so it would be kind of like you or I hitting someone with osteoperosis.
Probably the same result would happen with polar bears, but they tend to be less formidable than Grizzlys despite being larger.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Well lions can’t do shit solo against a wildebeast so it would have no chance against a polar bear in a fight.
The female lions are the more dangerous anyway.[/quote]
A male lion is far larger and more dangerous than the female. The female evolved to hunt, the male evolved to fight.
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
The female lions are the more dangerous anyway.[/quote]
Completely false.[/quote]
So why are they the hunters of their prides?
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Analogy:
Men are better chefs than women. But you will often see women in the kitchen making sandwhiches.[/quote]
That doesn’t make any sense.
A male lion is useless. He’s the equivalent to a dude who lives with a bunch of women and sponges off them.
Look at what makes a lion pride
40 total
3 males
1 old
1 young
1 retard
The rest are female. If males are more dangerous, survival of the pride would require more males.
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Males are there to protect the young and the females from other males.
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They also fight other animals as well. Most famously hyenas.
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
The professional hunters in Africa say that hunting a lioness is a lot more dangerous than hunting a male lion, since the lioness will stalk you while you’re stalking it.
Female or male would both get pwned by a polar bear though, that’s where my money would be[/quote]
This could be true since either gender of lion can easily kill a person.
But, there is a reason that the females do nothing when a new male(s) takes over a pride and kills the cubs of the old male(s).
[quote]red04 wrote:
Male lions, in a sort of ‘cage match’ are far more dangerous than females. Go watch animal planet for 1 day, watch a lioness secure a kill. While she sits there watching over it, scavengers will actually circle and make little runs at the carcass. When a male lion shows up, they scamper off to a safe distance a few hundred meters away, or just leave completely. It’s pretty telling behavior that the other animals in the grassland environment clearly have more ‘respect’ for the male lion.
Also, male lions will absolutely be present for kills of larger prey, such as hippos and elephants. Male lions that are solo looking for a pride to dominate are also plenty capable of hunting for themselves, even if that ‘hunting’ involves being a bully over carcasses(a behavior that is actually indicative of being far more dangerous in a ‘fight’).
All that said, a polar bear would wreck any lion. For that matter, most tigers would kill a lion as well(they’re actually a decent amount larger). Size matters so much that your larger ‘non-predators’(hippos, elephants) end up being some of the most dangerous animals on the planet. Turns out the animal kingdom doesn’t have a whole lot of refined fighting technique to overcome mass and power.[/quote]
Agree about the lion.
However, historically lions have won the majority of fights with tigers. Its certainly not a sure thing either way, but the fact that the lion is a born fighter seems to make up for the size difference (which isn’t that great except for siberian tigers, and even then it is largely extra fat).
tiger vs crocodile here. the video is worth watching. skip to 34s if youre the impatient sort.
[quote]LTKO wrote:
tiger vs crocodile here. the video is worth watching. skip to 34s if youre the impatient sort.[/quote]
I LOVE that video! That tigress has balls and tenacity.
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Well lions can’t do shit solo against a wildebeast [/quote]
Mmmmmmm wildebeast…[/quote]
Anyone remember that cool show where they used to simulate similar animal vs. animal fights? They even used to mock-up robots and stuff.
[quote]Otto the Ecto wrote:
Anyone remember that cool show where they used to simulate similar animal vs. animal fights? They even used to mock-up robots and stuff.[/quote]
Animal Faceoff
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]LTKO wrote:
tiger vs crocodile here. the video is worth watching. skip to 34s if youre the impatient sort.[/quote]
I LOVE that video! That tigress has balls and tenacity. [/quote]
The thing that I think did it in for the croc is that crocodilia have extremely low endurance and lactic acid threshold. After a few moments of explosion, they’re done. An excellent ambush on the tigress’s part as well.
People didn’t give Rocky Balboa a chance against Ivan Drago - his own wife classified it as “suicide” - but with rustic, farm implement-based training and an iron will, Rocky did the unthinkable and came out completely unscathed. (Except for a bit of brain damage…but Rocky was never much of a thinker anyway)
If the lion trained HARD - I’m talking 5/3/1, energy-system work, hill climbs with a weighted X-Vest and Tabatas - who are ANY of us to say that it couldn’t take down an arrogant Polar Bear…one who didn’t train as hard and took victory for granted (because it’s a fucking POLAR BEAR)??
I predict the bear would maul the fuck out of the lion for a couple rounds, until the lion bloodies it with a quick left jab, which would totally demoralize the bear and reaffirm in the lion’s mind that it’s not fighting a machine…just a bear.
Yep just an 10-12 foot long 2000lb bear with massive paws and jaws and a fair amount of speed … no worries
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Yep just an 10-12 foot long 2000lb bear with massive paws and jaws and a fair amount of speed … no worries[/quote]
You seem to know a lot about animals.
OK…Spitting Cobra vs. Wolverine…GO!!!
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Yep just an 10-12 foot long 2000lb bear with massive paws and jaws and a fair amount of speed … no worries[/quote]
You seem to know a lot about animals.
OK…Spitting Cobra vs. Wolverine…GO!!![/quote]
Hmm the cobra’s fast and could blind the wolverine, but since the wolverine is pretty much in a “constant sprint” as strange as that sounds, it’ll probably just charge the snake. Knowing the wolverine’s aggressive and tenacious nature (they fight bears for food), I couldn’t see it backing down from the snake. The biggest problem here though is that wolverines live in a winter climate habitat where the snake, a cold blooded animal, wouldn’t be able to survive.