This makes me excited as I plan to blast off to the moon as soon as I’m no longer fat 
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@wanna_be, after being in a deficit for a long time, The carb load, alone, feels incredible and can give as much as a 10% increase in strength after 96 hours of resuming high carbs. For any nay sayers on here, try me, please. Go eat huge amounts of rice and potatoes for the next four days, drink at least a gallon of water a day, and eat a banana and a pickle a few hours before a PR attempt. Thank me later. Which reminds me…
OP, @throwawayfitness, the more I thought about your post earlier, I wanted to also suggest that when you go from 3000 to 3500+ that you make the increase entirely carbs. You’re smart to start conservatively and then raise calories once the drugs are at full concentration, but 250 carbs, ESPECIALLY ON NANDROLONE, is loooooow. 400-500 would be MUCH BETTER for gains. For reference, I was holding 215 lbs, steady, at 4,500 calories a day when I called my last cycle done. Over half of that was carbs. Only saw fat gain when I bumped up to 5,000 for a bit.
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I would up the protein and carbs slightly and lower the fat a bit. Your macros are 33/33/33 or ~1000 calories of each. I don’t really agree with @Professor_Hulk about super high carbs though. I see way to many guys on here get fat bulking instead of focusing on quality weight.
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I suggest at least giving it a try because:
- You’re on nandrolone and that stuff makes your muscles insulin sensitive like nothing else.
- You’re planing on doing a considerable amount of cardio during the bulk. I’m suggesting higher carbs to help offset this. If you were only doing LISS or just a couple HIIT sessions a week, I’d say you’re good. But you’re going to be depleting glycogen a good bit and I just don’t want to see you leave gains on the table.
Try it for a week or two and watch measurements. If you start to get fat, drop carbs back down for sure. Some folks just don’t tolerate carbs well.
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Judging by your strenght, you know what you are doing and dont need anyones advice. Keep up the good work. Most people here should not give any advice to someone like you, but the other way around man.
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Strong dudes make cycle mistakes. I’m a bit stronger than op (not by much), and have wasted a blast due to not eating enough. It was my first real blast, next time I’m going eat more.
Strength is also heavily genetic. It isn’t always a good indicator of knowledge. I just saw my buddies brother almost lock out a 500 lb deadlift. He is 14, 6’1"and 160 lbs. He doesn’t know shit about training. His older brother pulls over 800 at the same height and 220 lbs. He knows how to train, but was pulling close to 700 with pretty minimal knowledge, and great genetics.
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May be. But it think it’s usually a good idea to ask the opinions of a bunch of different folks before you undertake any big task and then use your own extensive knowledge and experience to sift out the wheat from the chaff on your own, keeping what makes good sense to you, discarding what doesn’t.
This is an important life skill it took me 4 decades to realize.
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i do agree, but it all goes to shit when we actually have no idea who are most of those folks, since they have never even showed any of their success…
Lets look at it from finance perspective. You are 200% right that you should get opinions before starting a business… BUT… you have to be careful if you ask opinions somewhere where 1 of 10 people is successful in business, 4 of them are fuck ups, and 5 of them are homeless bums in there only for free drinks. In this case, the person would be better without any advice.
Fat cells are emptied by dieting but almost never become apoptotic meaning if you get fat, new fat cells form but when you diet they only empty but don’t die.
So number of fat cells nearly only increases making rebound fat gain easy. That’s the biggest motivation to never get too fat during bulking. Try to always stay under 20% BF. It will make staying lean easier.
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Good info. Exactly why I said not to go carb crazy. Bulk in a modest surplus with the right macros. Source your food from healthy choices. Bulking doesnt mean frequent visit to McDonalds or downing weight gain shakes like its nobody’s business. Take all advice as just that, advice, not gospel. Has the person giving advice shown their own success? What do you know about them? As @hankthetank89 said, you seem to know what you’re doing. I wouldn’t honestly change much at all other than stick with the same foods you’re eating now but add 20% more calories. See what that does and adjust.
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I’m considering cryolipolysis as a way to kill the cells so they can never refill.
That should work
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