Playstation 3 or Xbox 360?

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[quote]pookie wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
Especially if Uwe Boll makes it…

Argh! No!

What I don’t understand is that there was a Bloodrayne II made… and that Alone in the Dark II is currently being worked on. How many flops are required before they learn? Why in hell is anyone still letting that guy make movies based on their stuff?
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Bloodrayne II was even worse than the first one. Yes, I actually sat through it. At least the first one had nudity, but the second one had absolutely nothing redeeming about it. I believe there’s plans for a Bloodrayne III.

I don’t get it either. Perhaps Boll is adept at blackmailing people?

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[quote]Travacolypse wrote:
No flames here. Wii is awesome and the fun-factor for its best games is a lot higher than the other consoles.

The only reason I got a PS3 instead of a wii is the volume of decent titles coming out for the PS when compared to the wii. If you look on IGN, wii has games from 2006 still in its top 10 list. All it’s got is zelda, mario, and… well… that’s about it.[/quote]

Yeah, no flames at all. Unlike the PS or Xbox, the Wii can actually work as foreplay.

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[quote]chillain wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
No flames here. Wii is awesome and the fun-factor for its best games is a lot higher than the other consoles.

The only reason I got a PS3 instead of a wii is the volume of decent titles coming out for the PS when compared to the wii. If you look on IGN, wii has games from 2006 still in its top 10 list. All it’s got is zelda, mario, and… well… that’s about it.

Yeah, no flames at all. Unlike the PS or Xbox, the Wii can actually work as foreplay.

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Omg please explain!

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[quote]chillain wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
No flames here. Wii is awesome and the fun-factor for its best games is a lot higher than the other consoles.

The only reason I got a PS3 instead of a wii is the volume of decent titles coming out for the PS when compared to the wii. If you look on IGN, wii has games from 2006 still in its top 10 list. All it’s got is zelda, mario, and… well… that’s about it.

Yeah, no flames at all. Unlike the PS or Xbox, the Wii can actually work as foreplay.[/quote]

That’s not the same Wii we’re discussing here :slight_smile:

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[quote]chillain wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
No flames here. Wii is awesome and the fun-factor for its best games is a lot higher than the other consoles.

The only reason I got a PS3 instead of a wii is the volume of decent titles coming out for the PS when compared to the wii. If you look on IGN, wii has games from 2006 still in its top 10 list. All it’s got is zelda, mario, and… well… that’s about it.

Yeah, no flames at all. Unlike the PS or Xbox, the Wii can actually work as foreplay.

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What just happened?!

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Do you have HD TV? if so get the blu ray!!!
I haven’t regretted PS3 ever and all my xbox friends think that its better and sharper than the xbox!

GO GET IT!

add me misconception77 on ps3 when you get one!

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[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
Do you have HD TV? if so get the blu ray!!!
I haven’t regretted PS3 ever and all my xbox friends think that its better and sharper than the xbox!

GO GET IT!

add me misconception77 on ps3 when you get one![/quote]

Already got it man, sent you an add a little while ago.

If anyone else wants to add me on PSnetwork my name is Velron on there.

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[quote]beaudry wrote:
I really liked Assassin’s Creed, but that game is so damn repetitive. You save the same people, they all say the same thing after, etc. etc. [/quote]

That’s true, although you can skip most of the “rescue a citizen” mini-missions which are the most repetitive ones. I liked the one where you have to track down and silently eliminate 3 to 5 guards within a short time limit.

Same here. I’ve read rumors that it might be set in Japan… might the next assassin be a ninja? Or will they keep the current Templars vs. Assassins feud theme?

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[quote]pookie wrote:
beaudry wrote:
I really liked Assassin’s Creed, but that game is so damn repetitive. You save the same people, they all say the same thing after, etc. etc.

That’s true, although you can skip most of the “rescue a citizen” mini-missions which are the most repetitive ones. I liked the one where you have to track down and silently eliminate 3 to 5 guards within a short time limit.

I can’t wait to see what they do with part II, it has so much potential.

Same here. I’ve read rumors that it might be set in Japan… might the next assassin be a ninja? Or will they keep the current Templars vs. Assassins feud theme?
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Rescuing those citizens can be hard as hell if the goal is to avoid actually dueling each of them. Those soldiers actually fight pretty well for computer AI and they don’t give up looking for you unless you hide well.

Taking as many as you can out with throwing knives and then fighting the rest is the best bet.

I didn’t find that so repetitive since it isn’t that easy to kill all of those guards.

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So I went to GameStop last night since there is one right by my house and thought maybe I could get Assassin’s Creed or CoD4 used for pretty cheap. I found Assassin’s Creed and they wanted $25 for it…I was thinking “Do they really think I’m going to pay only $5 less for a used game than what I can buy it brand new for?” Actually newegg has it for $26.99 brand new and most local places $29.99 brand new. Shit almost made me laugh, I just left and went home.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
pookie wrote:
beaudry wrote:
I really liked Assassin’s Creed, but that game is so damn repetitive. You save the same people, they all say the same thing after, etc. etc.

That’s true, although you can skip most of the “rescue a citizen” mini-missions which are the most repetitive ones. I liked the one where you have to track down and silently eliminate 3 to 5 guards within a short time limit.

I can’t wait to see what they do with part II, it has so much potential.

Same here. I’ve read rumors that it might be set in Japan… might the next assassin be a ninja? Or will they keep the current Templars vs. Assassins feud theme?

Rescuing those citizens can be hard as hell if the goal is to avoid actually dueling each of them. Those soldiers actually fight pretty well for computer AI and they don’t give up looking for you unless you hide well.

Taking as many as you can out with throwing knives and then fighting the rest is the best bet.

I didn’t find that so repetitive since it isn’t that easy to kill all of those guards.[/quote]

I played the xbox version right after it came out (didn’t finish the game entirely though) and hmm. Maybe they have improved the AI via updates now or something, but I actually found it quite easy to fight a dozen or more guards at once (provided that all the ranged attackers were taken out before the fight)…

I’ve gone as far as using only the wristblade for that (killing 20+ guards while being surrounded all the time… Took an occasional hit maybe, but that was it)… You can’t deflect blows with it(wristblade) but as with all other melee weapons you can counter exactly when the enemy strikes when you’re in block mode…

(I at first didn’t even know you could use it in situations other than the jump-attack and from behind)

Sometimes you just kick them back or something, but most of the time you kill them immediately. The counters with the wrist-blade and dagger have some great (gruesome) animations (ramming the dagger through the skull of the other guy from above and then putting a foot in his face to pull the dagger back out… I don’t remember all the wristblade ones now (has been over a year since I played it last), but I thought they were even better.

Easiest is to use the sword though(best defense so that you can block enemy attacks better in case you didn’t see the guy attacking and hence didn’t counter… Also blocks most of the stronger swipes, which the dagger doesn’t). I think you don’t get as many criticals/instant kills with it however. Not sure, but I thought that you just knock them back more often with the sword instead of killing them. Only useful when you’re up high on some building where they can fall to their death… Or in pushing them back into others to create and opening for escape.

Of course this kind of kills the whole role-play aspect and it takes forever to defeat all of the attackers (they get reinforcements a lot, but eventually they’ll become afraid of you and all survivors run away).

Ok, so don’t do this unless you want to destroy the mood of the game…

It’s kinda fun on occasion though. Especially if you get tired of the A.I cheating (the guards making insane jumps that even you can’t do… Just so they can keep following you almost everywhere. Who’s the acrobat here? I found it amusing that a fully-armored Templar could jump higher/farther than me)

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If you like stealth shooters, pick up Socom:Confrontation. This game is by far going to be the biggest force for PS3 online. It has a lot of tweaks to work out which is why it received bad reviews (online-only and had a lot of server problems) but patches have been coming out and fixing them.

Not to mention all the old maps of Socom 1 and 2 will be released in downloadable content so I don’t think I could ever get bored with it.

It is so much more then just a run and gun killfest. Check it out if you have patience and like stealth shooting.

Also check out Dead Space, Fallout 3, and Resistance 2 if you are into those.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pookie wrote:
beaudry wrote:
I really liked Assassin’s Creed, but that game is so damn repetitive. You save the same people, they all say the same thing after, etc. etc.

That’s true, although you can skip most of the “rescue a citizen” mini-missions which are the most repetitive ones. I liked the one where you have to track down and silently eliminate 3 to 5 guards within a short time limit.

I can’t wait to see what they do with part II, it has so much potential.

Same here. I’ve read rumors that it might be set in Japan… might the next assassin be a ninja? Or will they keep the current Templars vs. Assassins feud theme?

Rescuing those citizens can be hard as hell if the goal is to avoid actually dueling each of them. Those soldiers actually fight pretty well for computer AI and they don’t give up looking for you unless you hide well.

Taking as many as you can out with throwing knives and then fighting the rest is the best bet.

I didn’t find that so repetitive since it isn’t that easy to kill all of those guards.

I played the xbox version right after it came out (didn’t finish the game entirely though) and hmm. Maybe they have improved the AI via updates now or something, but I actually found it quite easy to fight a dozen or more guards at once (provided that all the ranged attackers were taken out before the fight)…

I’ve gone as far as using only the wristblade for that (killing 20+ guards while being surrounded all the time… Took an occasional hit maybe, but that was it)… You can’t deflect blows with it(wristblade) but as with all other melee weapons you can counter exactly when the enemy strikes when you’re in block mode…

(I at first didn’t even know you could use it in situations other than the jump-attack and from behind)

Sometimes you just kick them back or something, but most of the time you kill them immediately. The counters with the wrist-blade and dagger have some great (gruesome) animations (ramming the dagger through the skull of the other guy from above and then putting a foot in his face to pull the dagger back out… I don’t remember all the wristblade ones now (has been over a year since I played it last), but I thought they were even better.

Easiest is to use the sword though(best defense so that you can block enemy attacks better in case you didn’t see the guy attacking and hence didn’t counter… Also blocks most of the stronger swipes, which the dagger doesn’t). I think you don’t get as many criticals/instant kills with it however. Not sure, but I thought that you just knock them back more often with the sword instead of killing them. Only useful when you’re up high on some building where they can fall to their death… Or in pushing them back into others to create and opening for escape.

Of course this kind of kills the whole role-play aspect and it takes forever to defeat all of the attackers (they get reinforcements a lot, but eventually they’ll become afraid of you and all survivors run away).

Ok, so don’t do this unless you want to destroy the mood of the game…

It’s kinda fun on occasion though. Especially if you get tired of the A.I cheating (the guards making insane jumps that even you can’t do… Just so they can keep following you almost everywhere. Who’s the acrobat here? I found it amusing that a fully-armored Templar could jump higher/farther than me)

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I am beginning to think there may be a slight difference between the xbox and ps3 versions. I would always get several guards running to me as back up (especially after I made a few high profile kills and they were looking for me). The further you got in the game, the harder they were to kill for me.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Rescuing those citizens can be hard as hell if the goal is to avoid actually dueling each of them. Those soldiers actually fight pretty well for computer AI and they don’t give up looking for you unless you hide well.[/quote]

I kinda like duelling each of them. I’ve beaten groups of over 25 of them at a time (I know this because there’s a game “achievement” for that particular event; there’s also one for having a battle last over 10 minutes.).

I find the combat to be pretty easy; but I like the cinematic look of it. It’s like watching ballet. I also try to use the hidden blade and not get hit; which can get pretty challenging. When you get the timing down pat, Altair is one impressive badass.

I also noticed that when you kill a lot of guards without taking any damage; the last two or three will often run away or fall to their knees and beg for their life. I found that refreshing. In most games, even if you kill 50 of their companions, the 51st soldier still comes at you as gung ho as the first.

That’s the other fun thing. Even if the rescue mission were repetitive, trying different approaches made it interesting. I managed to do one where I got behind the group and silently killed the two guards there, and then only had to do one counter-attack to take out the front one (who noticed me killing the second guard). Fastest rescue ever.

My favorite attack is hanging from a roof over a guard and then pressing X to fall on the victim and assassinate him. My wife has asked me to stop yelling “Death from above!” every time I do that.

I also discovered rather late in the game that you could do the same attack as the one shown in the opening cutscene, where you run and jump in the air before striking down your victim. Great fun.

It gets easier. After a while you should be able to take on any number of guards. They’ll surround you, but they always attack one at a time. Only when you’ve been hit and are off balance do they seem to pile on and hit you repeatedly.

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OMFG, I want that game! You guys make it sound so fun! Too bad no one is selling one real cheap on Craigslist…I’m being cheap right now I spent A LOT of money last 2 weeks.

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[quote]ZisDeadBaby wrote:
Also check out Dead Space, Fallout 3, and Resistance 2 if you are into those.[/quote]

I tried Fallout 3 and found it to be a very poor shooter. It’s probably a great RPG and great fun if you like running errands for cardboard people (I kid, I’m not into RPGs…) but as a shooter, it sucks.

There’s even a mode where you can pause the game, select a bodypart (with percentage probability of hitting), then dial in how many shots to fire and unpause. The game does it all for you. WTF? Why not a “Play The Whole Game For Me” choice on the main menu?

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[quote]josh86 wrote:
So I went to GameStop last night since there is one right by my house and thought maybe I could get Assassin’s Creed or CoD4 used for pretty cheap. I found Assassin’s Creed and they wanted $25 for it…I was thinking “Do they really think I’m going to pay only $5 less for a used game than what I can buy it brand new for?” Actually newegg has it for $26.99 brand new and most local places $29.99 brand new. Shit almost made me laugh, I just left and went home.[/quote]

Few games this gen are worth $60. AC is one of them. $30 is a steal, go back and buy it!

Also, get an Edge card for 15 bucks. 15 percent off used games, 15 percent added to trade-ins. It’s a good deal.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am beginning to think there may be a slight difference between the xbox and ps3 versions. I would always get several guards running to me as back up (especially after I made a few high profile kills and they were looking for me). The further you got in the game, the harder they were to kill for me.[/quote]

While they do indeed get stronger and stronger, the counter-attack still does them in easily. Works on all of the guards, as far as I remember.
You get different counter-attacks depending on what directional button you press while countering…

What really changes is how well you can defend against their attacks. At the beginning, they have a hard time breaking through your defense if you simply stay in block mode with the sword. Later on, they can knock you out of defense easily… The Templars can do it from the beginning. However, that isn’t so important as all you need to do is wait for the moment a guard strikes at you and counter… You can’t be attacked while the counter-animation runs, I believe.

Anyway, great game for sure. Beats mirror’s edge imo…

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[quote]josh86 wrote:
OMFG, I want that game! You guys make it sound so fun! Too bad no one is selling one real cheap on Craigslist…I’m being cheap right now I spent A LOT of money last 2 weeks.[/quote]

I’m really surprised the used ones are so expensive in your area. Got mine used (in near-mint condition, as they say) for $15.

I think the game is great fun, but some of that fun is from challenging yourself. If you just plow through the game, you’ll find parts of it to be very repetitive. You can do every battle just using your sword and doing the counter attack move. It’s much more fun to try and mix it up and use the short blade or, even better, the secret blade (which can’t be used to block, but with the right timing gives you an instant kill every time) or to use the dodge move before doing a normal attack, but the game itself won’t force you to do any of those things.

It’s also challenging to try and kill all the bosses using stealth. I was only able to do 3 (out of 9), and had to kill the others during a sword duel (sometimes after chasing them down through half the city with about 30 guards on our tails), but again, next time I play the whole game through, I won’t settle for a non-stealth kill for a boss.

Much of the fun will be from challenging yourself to try to do something the hard way. The game doesn’t require it, though.

Some of the “challenges” I had fun with:

  • Fight on a high roof (the guards will climb up to you) and win only by grabbing the guards and throwing them off the roof.

  • Fight on a pier and throw them in the water. No one could swim in 1191 apparently.

  • Stay on a ladder and kick or pull down every one who climbs up or down to you. Tough one.

  • Position yourself so that every dead guard falls over another dead one. It’s pretty hard, since you don’t know which stabbing animation you’ll get, but you can do nice body piles.

  • Do a large battle without using the counter-attack move. Dodges and attacks only. (You get the dodge move towards the end of the game).

  • Enter a city and try to kill every guard you see silently without raising an alarm. You have to be fast because dead bodies alarm the populace who call in guards to the area.

  • Get on the rooftops and remove all the rooftop guards across a city. I got bored before I finished - the cities are vast - but it was going well. You have to stealth kill them so that the bodies don’t fall to the streets.

  • Try to kill a whole guard patrol from horseback without getting knocked off your horse. I haven’t managed that one either. Yet.

Note that none of that is required by the game, but they are all great fun to try. With a friend over is even better.

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[quote]Applesauce wrote:
josh86 wrote:
So I went to GameStop last night since there is one right by my house and thought maybe I could get Assassin’s Creed or CoD4 used for pretty cheap. I found Assassin’s Creed and they wanted $25 for it…I was thinking “Do they really think I’m going to pay only $5 less for a used game than what I can buy it brand new for?”

Actually newegg has it for $26.99 brand new and most local places $29.99 brand new. Shit almost made me laugh, I just left and went home.

Few games this gen are worth $60. AC is one of them. $30 is a steal, go back and buy it!

Also, get an Edge card for 15 bucks. 15 percent off used games, 15 percent added to trade-ins. It’s a good deal.[/quote]

Oh man what I was saying is that the game is old now and so its come down in price. It sells brand new for $30 everywhere I’ve looked…and GameStop wanted $25 for it still, used. I thought that was a bit ridiculous…I’d rather go buy it brand new from Fry’s Electronics for $29.

Thanks for the tip on the Edge Card though. =)