[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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This is exactly my point.
[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
The STAGE of the chicken[/quote]
of course it is , Holy POO we agree:)
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Who gives a shit about a chicken?
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Any one that cares about words and what they mean . You can win any debate if you are allowed to change what words mean
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
So now you agree that a chicken is a chicken from the moment of conception, good to know.
How are humans any different?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
The STAGE of the chicken[/quote]
of course it is , Holy POO we agree:)[/quote]
GOOD to know you can agree with certain logic.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
More than one sperm and an egg are needed to qualify as a person.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
Two humans at the egg and sperm stage, or a human egg and a human sperm?[/quote][/quote]
Holy POO we agree again[/quote][/quote]
I agreed to what you erased and said that it depends on development
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Fuck. If a single one of you pro-aborts could graduate from Pitttbull’s Dipshit Elementary school that would be great.
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Like semen is a human life?
I like how desperately he hangs on to that one. He acts like that is going to actually convince us that because semen is part of the reproductive process, that it’s a human life.
Maybe if we lived in the same trailer park as he does, we would also be convinced??[/quote]
if you are going to quote me get it right , a human sperm is a human life , it is not a person just as a zygote is not a person either . It is a matter of development .
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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unlike you we have all developed
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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This is exactly my point. [/quote]
says the man with out a brain
[quote]Bismark wrote:
Science hasn’t yet defined personhood.[/quote]
Because it’s an utter horse shit concept used to dehumanize those you don’t want to view as they are.
Science can’t prove a sophomoric philosophical facade.
A unique human being is created at conception. Irrefutable scientific fact.
We know it isn’t a tree, nor magic fairy dust that makes this non-tree grow and continue through the stages of human development.
This tired argument has been rehashed and beat to death. You’re on the losing side of a dumb semantic game.
The sentences before this where you try and pretend basic biological facts aren’t true.
The projection following this statement for one.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
Like it or not, it’s the law of the land, and the so-called pro-life movement would be better served by advocating for improved sex education and subsidized birth control to address the demand side of abortion rather than charging a castle with little more than sharpened sticks. [/quote]
Ahh yes, the tired and true “but it’s the law, so therefore it’s okay” losing rationale.
Yes, people should just go along with immoral laws because they are laws and treat symptoms and not cures.
Nice projection. To the tune of about a million babies sliced up and vacuumed out of the womb, yeah that qualifies as wholesale slaughter.
No you don’t. Because if it was fundamental, you’d preserve it for the babies in the womb who don’t have that right protected for them.
If abortion is a fundamental right, we must outlaw abortion because aborting a person takes away there right to abort there own babies…
Pro-aborts have a problem with logic.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
It would be interesting if the dogmatic pro-life side would be able to put forth an argument without devolving to references to slavery, genocide, or the holocaust. Abortion is an individual medical decision.[/quote]
It would be interesting if the dogmatic pro-abort side would stop being so offended by this apt comparisons.
But they won’t, they’d have to stop playing pretend about what an abortion is.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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This obvious point will continue to be ignored, over an over and over again.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
Abortion is [/quote]
I actually think you’ll figure this out one day. Seriously. [/quote]
I do too, that’s why it’s frustrating.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
(a thing cannot cease to do what it is not doing). [/quote]
I suppose prevention of doing what it will do, or forcing that thing to do something it otherwise wouldn’t are super chill then?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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unlike you we have all developed
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Hey look, a typical democrat, a person isn’t a person unless that person looks the way pittbull likes them to look.
You’d have been a great slaver Pitt.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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This is exactly my point. [/quote]
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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unlike you we have all developed
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Hey look, a typical democrat, a person isn’t a person unless that person looks the way pittbull likes them to look.
You’d have been a great slaver Pitt. [/quote]
typical red herring defense
[quote]Sloth wrote:
An individual human life is deliberately destroyed. Fact.
This human life is known to either have, or to develop “personhood” Fact. You would literally have to argue that human “persons” are not in fact replaced/propagated by the reproductive act. Absolutely absurd.
Stop talking about the brain dead as if there is even a remotely similar situation going on. It is an absurd and offensive argument.[/quote]
The point here is many think destroying an individual human life is not equal to murder, so much so that it shouldn’t even be illegal.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We won this argument at the fact the embryo is an individual human life already working through its life cycle. In other words, killing sloth embryo would be/is killing sloth forum contributor. I am that individual in both cases. No switcheroos are done in the womb guys. No organismal sleight of hands. I’m that same individual life throughout my cycle.
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unlike you we have all developed
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Hey look, a typical democrat, a person isn’t a person unless that person looks the way pittbull likes them to look.
You’d have been a great slaver Pitt. [/quote]
typical red herring defense
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Pointing out you either ignore or are ignorant of basic biological fact while commenting on biology is a red herring?
Making fun of that is a defense?
lmao.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
An individual human life is deliberately destroyed. Fact.
This human life is known to either have, or to develop “personhood” Fact. You would literally have to argue that human “persons” are not in fact replaced/propagated by the reproductive act. Absolutely absurd.
Stop talking about the brain dead as if there is even a remotely similar situation going on. It is an absurd and offensive argument.[/quote]
The point here is many think destroying an individual human life is not equal to murder, so much so that it shouldn’t even be illegal. [/quote]
Because that makes perfect sense…
