Perpetual Motion

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Damn it Vroom, I was just getting ready to send bullpup a check for $500 to get in on this action. Hell, I just sent off for my solar panal and LCD light perpetiual light maker. It’s going to be a good year at T-Nation.

What’s really funny is I just read a book a couple of months ago called Junk Science that describes this senerio exactly. I guy from Mississippi ripped off thousands of people in the 80’s selling them investments in cars that ran on a 9 volt battery, ever running generators, and other perpetual motion crap.

His whole schtik was the “I’m a good old coutry boy out thinking them new fangled scientist” Surprise surprise he never delivered anything.

Bullpup you device is stupid. If it even had a chance of working I would be using one right now instead of running the 150K generator thats cranking. Maybe you should try to develop the self licking icecream cone or something else. This one is doomed.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Shoot!

And here I was getting excited, thinking maybe bullpup could shrink the technology and deliver it in flashlight sized increments.

Just think, you could hand crank it for a second and run it for a few years… and if you wanted to, you could charge batteries connected to solar panels when you didn’t need the light yourself.

Woohoo!

Oh, sorry, am I being an inconsiderate naysayer picking on the geniuses of tomorrow again?

I can’t wait for tomorrow…

The end of coal, the end of dependence on oil, the end of nuclear technology, wow, we’ll all just crank up our generators and live off all the extra power they generate for the rest of our lives.

I hope I didn’t make any spelling mistakes, because we all know that would invalidate everything I said, and that would be such a shame, this holds so much cough promise.[/quote]

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[quote]bullpup wrote:

I didn’t think of this idea to make millions it was a brain storm.

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This brainstorm of yours is very good ! Can I have some ?

If you add a Gasoline engine, an Alternator and a Battery, what do you get ?

Last time I looked under the hood of my car, I saw the exact same items.

With no gas I’m pretty sure that you could wear out the battery in less then a minute…

Those dumb close minded engineers at Honda, GM, BMW, Volkwagen, Ferrari, Toyota, Ford, Mercedes… should read this thread.

Maybe they could learn a thing or two.

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[quote]bullpup wrote:
Guys,

An electrical engineer that I work with agreed that it would work.

When I talked to him about it he said he did an expirement in his post graduate studies similar to this and he said his contraption extended the discharge rate of the deep cycle battery by 75%.

I am aware of the parasitic loss of power due to friction, heat, etc… But I was really looking for other ideas and or opinions that could help me. I’m not trying to change the world, I’m not worried about gas prices, but If i could extend the charge life of a battery and in the process not use the gasoline resources I have durring a time of need I think I have accompolished something.

I’m going to try and get one put together if time permits. I just think the idea seems to simplistic not to work.

The light bulb idea shining on a solar panel has some merit, but the light bulb should be an LED light. An LED light produces 94% efficent light with out the production of heat. It’s common knowledge that heat associated with a standard light bulb wastes 85% of the energy used to make the light bulbs filament glow.

Just a thought

Remeber they thought Leonardo Da Vinci was a fool too…

Bullpup[/quote]

Yeah but it is such fun stirring him up.

Besides the original post is hinting at perpetual motion / energy, not extending the discharge rate.

And there are probably much better alternatives.

If I lived in an area like that (apart from having a house that stays above the water line) I’d want a generator, a tonne of fuel, and a lot of batteries charged up, solar power, the works. Not just for myself but to sell to others when the disaster strikes (or share if I want to be kind) I would also stock water bottles and water filters.

I would not try and setup some kind of magic generator-battery system in the hope that it is enough.