[quote]polo77j wrote:
It’s not just oppressive to free speech it’s mind control. These kids don’t see what gigantic piece of shit hypocrites they are. They want safe space and tout PC non-sense in order to preserve their feelings but don’t understand that they’re causing undue stress on the kids who just want to keep their head down and focus on school and don’t buy into their namby pamby bullshit (which is the majority of kids). THAT majority needs to stand up and tell these assholes to sit down, shut up, and stop being bullies.[/quote]
Oppressing freedom of speech is mind-control, as controlling the flow and perceived validity of information, as well as individual perceptions of normativity, come part and parcel with complete dominance of a discourse.
I don’t believe that it’s entirely the students’ fault, but must be shared with educational institutions as well. University students are taught to believe that these views are enlightened and tolerant, yet the hypocrisy lies in their inability to see just how close-minded and educationally elitist they are. We are taught to cram facts (biased, just as any information source is) into our brains rather than the ability to approach learning from a skeptical standpoint, i.e. we are given information, but are not taught the abilities to process it critically.
[quote]cavemansam wrote:
that video was f–king funny
GOOD MORNING AMERICA WHAT OFFENDS YOU TODAY!!![/quote]
I specifically chose Maher because he is a liberal atheist, to illustrate the problem. If even liberals feel stifled and pissed, because of the actions of other libreals, then you know there is a problem.[/quote]
That’s because all those college students/people who support them are “liberals in name only”.[/quote]
so, fascists in practice[/quote]
Your comment reminded me of this. There’s a little quiz. You can find out if you’re a fascist or not.
We talked quite a bit about Freedom of Speech and campus activism and intolerance on the Mizzou thread. It’s so fundamental to what freedom is, it’s still just unbelievable that it’s even an issue.
I’m about as un-PC as possible and I have fun with it. I also have less of a filter, if I think it has to be said, I say it. I agree that it is an attack on our freedom of speech. If I offend someone, grow a pair, FFS.
[quote]cavemansam wrote:
that video was f–king funny
GOOD MORNING AMERICA WHAT OFFENDS YOU TODAY!!![/quote]
I specifically chose Maher because he is a liberal atheist, to illustrate the problem. If even liberals feel stifled and pissed, because of the actions of other libreals, then you know there is a problem.[/quote]
That’s because all those college students/people who support them are “liberals in name only”.[/quote]
so, fascists in practice[/quote]
Your comment reminded me of this. There’s a little quiz. You can find out if you’re a fascist or not.
We talked quite a bit about Freedom of Speech and campus activism and intolerance on the Mizzou thread. It’s so fundamental to what freedom is, it’s still just unbelievable that it’s even an issue. [/quote]
Interesting article, but I disagree about tearing down flyers in all situations. That depends entirely on where the flyers are. Unless the flyers are posted on private property by the owner of that property or are officially sanctioned by the government in a public place, the flyers don’t have some protection. Tearing down flyers on public property from private individuals is just cleaning up litter. If you disagree with the flyer, that’s just bonus.
Oppressing freedom of speech is mind-control, as controlling the flow and perceived validity of information, as well as individual perceptions of normativity, come part and parcel with complete dominance of a discourse.[/quote]
The entire concept of policy-making, and by extension everything involved in it, can be construed as mind control, though it would depend on just how you define mind control…
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
I don’t believe that it’s entirely the students’ fault, but must be shared with educational institutions as well. University students are taught to believe that these views are enlightened and tolerant, yet the hypocrisy lies in their inability to see just how close-minded and educationally elitist they are. We are taught to cram facts (biased, just as any information source is) into our brains rather than the ability to approach learning from a skeptical standpoint, i.e. we are given information, but are not taught the abilities to process it critically.[/quote]
I disagree. Rather, I would argue that these people become so bull-headed in their belief PRECISELY because they believe they are approaching it from a skeptical standpoint.
Notice how polo77j responded to me earlier with “Careful. You’re bias is showing…”.
That is, one notices biases in another’s thinking much more readily than one’s own, especially if that person supports an opinion that one is critical of.
I’ve placed some superficial thought on this, and have come to the conclusion that we’d suffer from paralysis by analysis if we didn’t have some degree of conviction in our beliefs. If we weren’t reasonably sure in our beliefs, we’d be spending all of our time questioning said belief. And it’s quite difficult to get anything done if we spend so much time questioning ourselves.
I no longer believe “objective” thought is possible, and I believe that we are much more prone to pointing out this “failure” in others than notice it within ourselves.
Some of it stems from the idea that if someone disagrees with you, or if you find their words hurtful, then they shouldn’t be able to say them. We’ve come up with the idea of “hate speech” but that idea tends to be very subjective and poorly defined.
Honestly, many of the liberal professors are completely upset by this interpretation. As mentioned in the Mizzou thread when we were talking about this, the PC pendulum swung too far and now they are saying “woah, now…that’s not what we meant.” They don’t want to feel fear about bringing up certain topics in the classroom which may be “sensitive.”
lately being the butthead i tend to be as i approach people i know to be easily offended i greet them with
GOOD MORNING AMERICA WHAT OFFENDS YOU TODAY!!!
some of them seem to be offended by that greeting
Prolly because of the blatant passive-aggression. If you’re going to be passive aggressive at least make sure you’re a progressive, then you’ll get a pass
