[quote]doogie wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Rah-Knee = Al Shades
Chock full of Tube Steak Boogie.
Fuck, I’ll admit that when I was a “student” I was an idealistic liberal douchebag. When I transferred from one college to another, Howard Dean’s cousin (my Constitutional Law professor) literally cried, blubbering, “You were the one”. Back then I wrote papers pointing out the pure evil of original intent. It only took graduation, the reality of our tax structure, and fatherhood to get my mind right.
I hold out hope that both Al Shades and Rah-Knee (assuming they are different people) come to their senses.[/quote]
Doogie Houser, A while back you made a limp wristed smart ass remark to something i posted,(what i dont remember,dont care) but your mind must not be right yet.And in my eyes your still a DOUCHEBAG!!!
Rah, I am very interested in you. I have to go back to work but I will get on later. Yes, yes, I am a Marine. But, honestly, I kind of like you. You are WAYYYYY at the other end of the spectrum that I am on, and that interests me. But before I go, I know about how the 300 saved Greece and all that, you stated what we already know. Please go back and look at my original questions. Call me all the names you want, but hell, we could be friends. And I deploy again soon, and can’t f’ing wait.
michael, i haven’t called you any names, nor will i likely do so.
what makes everyone think i’m a “liberal”?
about a year ago when i filled out my profile i was still a student. since then i’ve finished a master’s degree and gotten a job as a research chemist with an international oil company.
and i’ll “grow up” right after i finish this can of copenhagen and kill the last few afghani goat herds in the way of our new pipeline.
and i hate it when people in the military actually think they are defending my freedom and not the interests of very large companies. the freedom of americans in general has not been threatened since 1941, and even then only slightly. oh well, live your life as an ignorant pawn of Halliburton. it doesn’t matter to me.
michael c, i’ll give you a few reasons i think the way i do. the men at thermopylae knew they were going to die. not just thought there was a good chance they might be injured, the knew for certainty that they were going to die. they had the chance to abandon the field or surrender and let the persians pass through unhampered, which would have completely fucked over the rest of greece, as they were scrambling to assemble an army to deal with the invasion. the greek states and every person living in a democracy today owes those 300 men a great deal more than they probably know. had they taken the easy way out and not fought to the death, it likely would have meant the demise of democracy before it had a chance to spread outside of greece.
tillman isn’t a hero. his decision to join the military was a poor one at best and his death is ultimately meaningless, unless you’re a major shareholder in the companies behind the war or an immediate family member of friend.
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Jack Nicholson (Col. Jessup): “Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? I know deep down in places you dont talk about at parties, you don’t want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to!”
and i’ll “grow up” right after i finish this can of copenhagen and kill the last few afghani goat herds in the way of our new pipeline.[/quote]
See! We ARE alike! I dip Kodiak and have gotten rid of insurgents. You dip Cope and ENJOY whacking billy goats. I have a feeling this is going to become a beautiful friendship.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
michael, i haven’t called you any names, nor will i likely do so.
what makes everyone think i’m a “liberal”?
about a year ago when i filled out my profile i was still a student. since then i’ve finished a master’s degree and gotten a job as a research chemist with an international oil company.
and i’ll “grow up” right after i finish this can of copenhagen and kill the last few afghani goat herds in the way of our new pipeline.[/quote]
We think your a liberal because of the opinions you posted.
You claim to be in Afganistan, how wonderful, it presents an excellent opportunity for you.
It shouldn’t be too hard to find some American Soldiers. You could even seek out some Rangers. Engage them in a conversation about Pat Tillman. They are real easy to talk to so don’t hold back. Make sure you share with them what you shared with us. Let us know how that goes…ok.
You must have excellent connectivity so far out in the sticks…modern technology is simply amazing isn’t it.
i’m not in afghanistan, i interpreted the “kegger” comment as a shot at my being a student, as if being a student was somehow a bad thing. i was just returning in kind. anyways, some people seem to get me wrong. just because i don’t believe that dying in a friendly fire incident makes you a hero, they seem to think that i look down on the military. i don’t. and just because i realize the real role of the military doesn’t mean that i think it’s unimportant. protecting the rights of american companies is a vital role, and if we have to kill a few people to do so, then so be it.
i just wish the guys who are dying to make someone else richer could realize what’s happening to them.
It shouldn’t be too hard to find some American Soldiers. You could even seek out some Rangers. Engage them in a conversation about Pat Tillman. They are real easy to talk to so don’t hold back. Make sure you share with them what you shared with us. Let us know how that goes…ok.
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meh, take away the assault rifles, air support, and artillery and 99.9% of special forces guys are no harder to break than the average drunk in a bar. i’m willing to bet it would go very much in my favor.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
michael, i haven’t called you any names, nor will i likely do so.
what makes everyone think i’m a “liberal”?
about a year ago when i filled out my profile i was still a student. since then i’ve finished a master’s degree and gotten a job as a research chemist with an international oil company.
and i’ll “grow up” right after i finish this can of copenhagen and kill the last few afghani goat herds in the way of our new pipeline.[/quote]
Why is it every time I hear someone who is against the Iraq war, all I hear is oil, oil oil? Yet I’m still paying about $3.00 a gallon?
It shouldn’t be too hard to find some American Soldiers. You could even seek out some Rangers. Engage them in a conversation about Pat Tillman. They are real easy to talk to so don’t hold back. Make sure you share with them what you shared with us. Let us know how that goes…ok.
meh, take away the assault rifles, air support, and artillery and 99.9% of special forces guys are no harder to break than the average drunk in a bar. i’m willing to bet it would go very much in my favor.
I was in the U.S.M.C. for 8 years and am currently deployed with the Army reserve in the Balkans. What Tillman did there isn’t another football player that would do something like that. I can’t see myself turning down a pro career like that. Tillman was and still is a man’s man in my book, and i salute him. SEMPER FI and OORAH !!
I second that…not the oorah b/c i am not a marine or special forces gentleman.
Anyway, Ronnie or Rah-nee, whatever, you are doing a good job by inciting everybody, so you have done your job. But the rifles, artillary…drunk comments, well that was a little too much. You are stereotyping a little too much. I have made a point to not stereotype, but then people go about saying this crap. Look dude, it is so bad to give thanks that you dont have guns busting your doors down at 4am, or that around every corner there is a security scan, or that every bus and person you see may be loaded with a semi-automatic gun…well then shit, get the f out of here and find a more comfortable place to go. If you find one that has those ammenities, then you found Utopia in your world.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
…meh, take away the assault rifles, air support, and artillery and 99.9% of special forces guys are no harder to break than the average drunk in a bar. i’m willing to bet it would go very much in my favor.
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You don’t think our SF guys are any tougher or more skilled fighters than a drunken guy in a bar?
You weigh 175#'s! You are a joke.
I am sure it makes you feel better about yourself bragging how tough you are on an internet forum.
actually i’m up to 185 now. and i know a whole slew of military guys from high school and the industry i was in for the last 4 years or so. they are the first ones to run thier mouths, especially the special forces guys, and the first ones to get thier asses kicked. they don’t realize that bar fights don’t involve thier trusty m-4. a group of guys came into a bar i was at not more than 5 months ago, talking about how they were all navy seals and had all just come back from afghanistan. some friends of mine knew them from their old navy days and confirmed thier story. they were acting like douches, which unfortunately is typical for military guys around here. they managed to start a fight with a group of skinny mexican guys, and they managed to get thier asses kicked. very badly. i have no doubt that had weapons been involved they’d have smoked everyone. but weapons weren’t involved. and they got thier asses kicked.
anyways if any of you would like to continue a civil discussion, i’ll be around. the rest of you feeling the need to try and hurl insults will be left to wallow in your ignorance.
[quote]strongFB wrote:
…well then shit, get the f out of here and find a more comfortable place to go.
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That is what I was thinking. Rah, you DO look down on the military. And you have yet to answer my q’s. Like you owe me that, though. I just think you are a bit on the quirky side and want you to keep posting. Oh, an unless you have an MMA record better than mine, I doubt you could take me…and I don’t drink so you wouldn’t be so lucky.
It shouldn’t be too hard to find some American Soldiers. You could even seek out some Rangers. Engage them in a conversation about Pat Tillman. They are real easy to talk to so don’t hold back. Make sure you share with them what you shared with us. Let us know how that goes…ok.
meh, take away the assault rifles, air support, and artillery and 99.9% of special forces guys are no harder to break than the average drunk in a bar. i’m willing to bet it would go very much in my favor.
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I’ll bet it wouldn’t go your way at all. Give it a try. No sense in arguing with me ,you have som much to prove.
People who train for combat have a whole different mindset then you could even imagine.
Have a nice day and a wonderful time with the imaginary goats.
“We dont need your thanks or your support. We just do it anyway.”
you will never get my thanks, so don’t hold your breath. however i will support the doctrine of imposing our will on other nations. if you’re not fucking someone over, they’re fucking you over.[/quote]
I told you we dont need your thanks didnt I. And for someone like you there is no point in my trying to even talk to you. You take what we do for you and shove it back at us like what we do is pointless. When it is far from it. Ive never seen someone who was so far opposite of what I believe. I mean I have met people who didnt agree but still where thankful that they didnt have to do what we do. And appreciated what we do. Your just so far out there.
I have my own views about everything that I am told or taught in the military. I may not beleive in all of it but I know it has to get done by us or no one will do it. And as far as research goes, I dont need to do any research to know that my freedom before I joined was protected by men and women that have made so many sacrifices. Sacrifices that I could never imagine untill now. Now that I have seen first hand what has to be done and left a wife and kids at home.
So, I am still thankful for the men and women before me and the men and women that still do it today.
I do it so my son or daughter wont have to if they chose not to. So they will have a safe place to live and a future to look forward to. But, what ever they decide, you can bet that they will know the sacrifices and know what honor,courage,duty, and commitment are. And be thankful.
Now do I want you to say thank you? No. It would mean nothing to me comeing from you. And truth be told. It would probably piss me off.
But once again believe what you want to its the right and the freedom you have that has been provided for you free of charge by the military. It only took the lives of some of your fellow americans to pay for it for you.
