Pat Robertson Should Be Assassinated

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]throttle132 wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Just weighing in on this and for the record: I think Robertson was right on. And the fact that so many liberals on this site and elsewhere are so inflamed and frothing at the mouth over this issue confirms it for me.

It’s about time that the despicable, Death-to-America crowd, pricks of this world ala Chavez, Castro, Hussein, Bin Laden, Kim Jong-il, etc. felt the wrath of the nation they hate so much.

It shouldn’t be about liberal or conservative it should be about what is right and wrong. Why can’t another nation choose their own form of governmnet even if it is more socialized in nature?

Socialism and a people’s right to choose their own form of government is totally irrelevant to my point. But I do agree with your statement.

Contrary indeed. It is germane to the point. Robertson called Chavez a strong arm dictator. Untrue. He’s been elected by landslides during the last 6 years. Just because he won’t play capitalist games and has the balls to stand up to the leviathan Exxon/Mobile, all the sudden he needs to be assasinated. He takes profits from his own counrties oil reserves and uses them for social programs to help the poor. How dare he!

Yep! You’re right. I did a Google search for “benevolent, nice all-around guy” and shore nuf, there was a picture of Chavez.[/quote]

Yeah and I bet Bush was the first, huh.

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[quote]throttle132 wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:

He’s been elected by landslides during the last 6 years.

So has Castro…for the last 40 years…and Saddam Hussein had the landslide thing figured out too…and Josef Stalin…and Kim Jong Il…

Just because he won’t play capitalist games

That stinker! That stick-in-the-mud! That party pooper!

and has the balls to stand up to the leviathan Exxon/Mobile,

Yeah, that’s pretty much the only reason we don’t like him…

All in all it bears repeating: “It’s about time that the despicable, Death-to-America crowd, pricks of this world ala Chavez, Castro, Hussein, Bin Laden, Kim Jong-il, etc. felt the wrath of the nation they hate so much.” [/quote]

Your allusion to strong-arm tactics as a way Chavez has been elected is baseless. The masses of Venezualens love him. It is only the few rich who despise Chavez.

The fact that he faced up to American corporate power is certainly one of the main reasons he is hated by our leaders. And also his criticisms of U.S. foreign policy doesn’t make him popular either.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
throttle132 wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:

He’s been elected by landslides during the last 6 years.

So has Castro…for the last 40 years…and Saddam Hussein had the landslide thing figured out too…and Josef Stalin…and Kim Jong Il…

Just because he won’t play capitalist games

That stinker! That stick-in-the-mud! That party pooper!

and has the balls to stand up to the leviathan Exxon/Mobile,

Yeah, that’s pretty much the only reason we don’t like him…

All in all it bears repeating: “It’s about time that the despicable, Death-to-America crowd, pricks of this world ala Chavez, Castro, Hussein, Bin Laden, Kim Jong-il, etc. felt the wrath of the nation they hate so much.”

Your allusion to strong-arm tactics as a way Chavez has been elected is baseless. The masses of Venezualens love him. It is only the few rich who despise Chavez.

The fact that he faced up to American corporate power is certainly one of the main reasons he is hated by our leaders. And also his criticisms of U.S. foreign policy doesn’t make him popular either.

Sounds like you have spent some time in Venezuela as an election observer and part-time (or full time) resident? You’d have to be in order to be able to honestly make the above statements. If you have actually done that, it is quite interesting and your input carries a much higher value. If not, then your statements are “baseless”.[/quote]

If my statements are baseless because I haven’t observed the election then so are the rest of the posters on here who allude to the election as being a fraud because they weren’t there either. So how would you determine who is right and who is wrong?

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You hit the nail on the head. It does boil down to the information you recieve.

And here is the crux of a massive problem within our country. The mass media are highly propagandized and should be read alongside non-corporate news, foreign news and human rights organizations. Also chrurch reports from the third world. If you did you’d be amazed at the difference between what the U.S. press says and what other reports claim. Major paragraphs that are crucial to the story are cut out and sanitized by the corporate media because they will not advance the interests of the elite. They disect and sanitize the news to serve their own ends which is the antithesis of what is percieved as their standard function.

To be honest I can’t claim to know much about Castro. I only know that I’m supposed to hate him because the political clas told me so. And also what I learned in history books. But here again it’s problematic because most history books are written or sponsored by major corporations.

There is some truth in the addage you bring up about the ‘birds of a feather’. But this doesn’t bode well for the United States when you consider all of the tyrants we’ve supported in the past. What about Rumsfeld shaking hands with that mass murderer Saddam? Wouldn’t he be guilty by association?

I’m not claiming that Chavez is my Lord and personal savior, I’m just saying that the people of his country love his policies and the U.S. has no business meddeling in their affairs - like we always do.

We are making more and more enemies with our foreign policy and it’s frightening to think of the blowback to come.

So I still believe Robertson was way out of line. He may just be completely ignorant of what he said or he is practicing deciet.

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Leave Castro, and what Cubans think of him, out of this. The vast majority of Cubans are terribly ambivalent towards Castro. If you say he is nothing but a murdering thug, I’ll argue. He has done a lot of good things for Cuba, and for the world in his lifetime. If you say he is a great leader, and a man to be emulated, I will argue with you, because he has oppressed his own people, he has picked his self-interests over what’s best for the country, and he has turned the country into a police state (in some neighbourhoods, there is a police officer on every block).

So anyway, Chavez associating with Castro does not make him bad, it just means they have something in common. They are both critical of the US, and the US has responded by trying to assassinate both of them. There’s nothing like assassinations attempts by a common enemy to solidify a friendship…