Parents Keep Child's Gender Secret

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[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
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What do you mean it doesnt matter what gender you assign your child??? You don’t have to, nature already did.

Penis=Boy
Vagina=Girl

It’s that simple!

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Gender is a social construct but these kids live in society. As social animals, they will experience ostracism and the resulting feelings of misplacement, which could lead to deeper issues of self-worth as a result of what their parents are doing. As much as we’d like to philosophize about self-worth coming from within, the entire concept of it only makes sense in relation to society.

If someone reaches adulthood and decides that the gender idea doesn’t work for them and knowingly decides to reject it (as many have done), that’s awesome and even admirable. To force that on a child before they can decide for themselves or are aware of the societal implications of your decision for their life can almost be considered cruelty.

You don’t experiment with children.

Edit: There’s nothing wrong with raising your kid without favoring a gender as the parent (not buying them certain colors unless they specifically ask, letting them pick their own toys etc), but raising your kids as the opposite gender is experimentation and a pretty mean one at that.

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[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

What do you mean it doesnt matter what gender you assign your child??? You don’t have to, nature already did.

Penis=Boy
Vagina=Girl

It’s that simple!
[/quote]

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Although I do think it should be against the law to raise your obviously male or female child as a member of the opposite sex, it will only serve to confuse the poor child. But don’t hold your breath for the homosexual and/or feminist lobbies to push for any laws against that.

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[quote]Oleena wrote:
You don’t experiment with children.[/quote]

+1

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[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

CRACKER ASS CRACKERS!

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]SuperAlienFreak wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

Yep. SMH @ silly pseudo-intellectual white people.[/quote]

Racist.[/quote]

Meh. There might be a few individuals that are like that of other races, but lets face it-- most of these wackos are white. Nothing but an observation. Nothing against white folk, I love white wimmenz.[/quote]

yes, its an observation that I, as a white woman, have also made and show great disdain for. So sue me.

Anyways, rich White folk, which are a cohort that are typically correlated with being highly educated, have nothing to “fight” for, nothing to complain about, no injustices to overcome of their own - so they just concoct stupid shit to be outraged about (unless they’re bitching about not getting bigger tax breaks or something equally nefarious).

If only they’d channel their energies to helping out their fellow man, rather than trying to be “progressive” for the sake of their egos. [/quote]

White and proud of it. [/quote]

I always get confused when I see this - or black pride, for that matter, or brown pride (like cain velasquez’ tattoo). What do you have to be proud of? Obviously nothing to be ashamed of, but are past accomplishments of whites somehow reflective on you? Obviously you had no cobntribution to the achievements of whites who died before you were even born, so what is it? I genuinely feel like somethign’s being lost in translation when people start telling me what they are proud of.

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]SuperAlienFreak wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

Yep. SMH @ silly pseudo-intellectual white people.[/quote]

Racist.[/quote]

Meh. There might be a few individuals that are like that of other races, but lets face it-- most of these wackos are white. Nothing but an observation. Nothing against white folk, I love white wimmenz.[/quote]

yes, its an observation that I, as a white woman, have also made and show great disdain for. So sue me.

Anyways, rich White folk, which are a cohort that are typically correlated with being highly educated, have nothing to “fight” for, nothing to complain about, no injustices to overcome of their own - so they just concoct stupid shit to be outraged about (unless they’re bitching about not getting bigger tax breaks or something equally nefarious).

If only they’d channel their energies to helping out their fellow man, rather than trying to be “progressive” for the sake of their egos. [/quote]

White and proud of it. [/quote]

I always get confused when I see this - or black pride, for that matter, or brown pride (like cain velasquez’ tattoo). What do you have to be proud of? Obviously nothing to be ashamed of, but are past accomplishments of whites somehow reflective on you? Obviously you had no cobntribution to the achievements of whites who died before you were even born, so what is it? I genuinely feel like somethign’s being lost in translation when people start telling me what they are proud of.[/quote]

LOLOLOLOLOL

I am just bored at work.

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No matter how important and valid and convincing your argument is, an uncomfortable close-up video of you rambling while eating in a public cafeteria really works against you.

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]SuperAlienFreak wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

Yep. SMH @ silly pseudo-intellectual white people.[/quote]

Racist.[/quote]

Meh. There might be a few individuals that are like that of other races, but lets face it-- most of these wackos are white. Nothing but an observation. Nothing against white folk, I love white wimmenz.[/quote]

yes, its an observation that I, as a white woman, have also made and show great disdain for. So sue me.

Anyways, rich White folk, which are a cohort that are typically correlated with being highly educated, have nothing to “fight” for, nothing to complain about, no injustices to overcome of their own - so they just concoct stupid shit to be outraged about (unless they’re bitching about not getting bigger tax breaks or something equally nefarious).

If only they’d channel their energies to helping out their fellow man, rather than trying to be “progressive” for the sake of their egos. [/quote]

White and proud of it. [/quote]

I always get confused when I see this - or black pride, for that matter, or brown pride (like cain velasquez’ tattoo). What do you have to be proud of? Obviously nothing to be ashamed of, but are past accomplishments of whites somehow reflective on you? Obviously you had no cobntribution to the achievements of whites who died before you were even born, so what is it? I genuinely feel like somethign’s being lost in translation when people start telling me what they are proud of.[/quote]
It’s about not being ashamed of yourself because of your skin color. Black people were often looked down upon because they were black, and Black pride is not thinking poorly of your self because of your own skin color.

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Anyone else think the baby was born a hermaphrodite and these poor parents have melded confusion with denial?

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Someone was eventually going to try it. I think it could be interesting what can be learnt from it, despite the fact that this child’s life will probably be fucked up. It might just put the argument of gender as social construct to rest.

Plus these guys are obviously morons, so at least they won’t be polluting the gene pool for too much longer.

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[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

What do you mean it doesnt matter what gender you assign your child??? You don’t have to, nature already did.

Penis=Boy
Vagina=Girl

It’s that simple!
[/quote]

You are so incredibly lost it’s not even funny.

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[quote]lemonman456 wrote:

[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]SuperAlienFreak wrote:

[quote]cct wrote:

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Well, they’re not incorrect in stating that “gender is a social construction” as that is indeed the case.

Sex is biological. Gender is constructed. And frankly, it doesn’t really matter what gender you assign your child as their psycho-social development and their interaction with society will inevitably dictate their gender preference and sexual-orientation. Besides, despite the child’s unconventional upbringing, I’m sure s/he will just grow-up despising its parents - which is quite normal!

Just another case of silly over-educated white people trying to be controversial.
[/quote]

Yep. SMH @ silly pseudo-intellectual white people.[/quote]

Racist.[/quote]

Meh. There might be a few individuals that are like that of other races, but lets face it-- most of these wackos are white. Nothing but an observation. Nothing against white folk, I love white wimmenz.[/quote]

yes, its an observation that I, as a white woman, have also made and show great disdain for. So sue me.

Anyways, rich White folk, which are a cohort that are typically correlated with being highly educated, have nothing to “fight” for, nothing to complain about, no injustices to overcome of their own - so they just concoct stupid shit to be outraged about (unless they’re bitching about not getting bigger tax breaks or something equally nefarious).

If only they’d channel their energies to helping out their fellow man, rather than trying to be “progressive” for the sake of their egos. [/quote]

White and proud of it. [/quote]

I always get confused when I see this - or black pride, for that matter, or brown pride (like cain velasquez’ tattoo). What do you have to be proud of? Obviously nothing to be ashamed of, but are past accomplishments of whites somehow reflective on you? Obviously you had no cobntribution to the achievements of whites who died before you were even born, so what is it? I genuinely feel like somethign’s being lost in translation when people start telling me what they are proud of.[/quote]
It’s about not being ashamed of yourself because of your skin color. Black people were often looked down upon because they were black, and Black pride is not thinking poorly of your self because of your own skin color. [/quote]

No. Black pride is being proud to be black. It’s being proud of something that you have absolutely no control over, and that is why it is a flawed concept.

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[quote]clip11 wrote:
Apparently this whacked out couple is raising their male child as a girl and the other child doesnt even have a gender. They seem to believe gender is just a social construct.
[/quote]

If i remember reading correctly, they are letting the older male child wear and behave however he wants to. They are NOT making him act like a girl

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Why would a child need rules and a sense of direction??? Come on, they are fully capable their own decisions. (sarcasm)

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This reminds me of a documentary I watched in an Anthro class. Quite a sad story actually. I realize that this is not the same situation, but it is a look at one case of manipulating gender and trying to manipulate sex.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/reimer/

Gender is an interesting topic. If I recall correctly, there have been (or currently exist) cultures that have three or more genders which are different combinations of masculine and feminine traits.

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[quote]Mascherano wrote:
If having children is your biological right, and the children are your property and not those of the state, how is it the government’s right to interfere in your child rearing if you’re not harming the child?

Even Christian Scientists get a bye by the gov when they don’t take their kids to the doctors for “religious reasons” - why would this be any different?[/quote]
Although procreation is your biological right, our government only grants parental rights on the basis of “good behavior.” If you act out of accordance of loosely defined social norms, your children are legally removed from your care.

As for christians getting a bye on religious practices leading to legally defined child abuse, read the following:

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The one boy, Jazz, is already getting upset about his gender ambiguity. He wants people to know he is a boy (the camp rangers) but wears his hair long and dresses in what are considered “girly” colors and even girl clothes sometimes because he likes to. He knows he can cut his hair and wear “boy” clothes and not get the stares and the questions, but he doesn’t care, he likes pink and purple and girl things. Their personalities are still forming, who knows how they’ll end up.

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[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
Those kids will be crucified once they enter the real world(assuming the piece of shit parents let them, that is).[/quote]
The parents probably won’t let them for some time. Apparently they are being “unschooled” which is like homeschooled but the kids just do whatever they want.

Plus, the kids all sleep with the parents. Really an odd messed up family.

Here is an article with more details: