[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
There should be an outright ban on the sentence, “I was spanked and I turned out fine” in this thread.
There are tons of people who had to endure terrible abuse as kids and they turned out “fine”, not because of that abuse but despite it.*
*Not singling out usmc, or suggesting he was abused.
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Obviously he was abused. If you wouldn’t literally defend him from physical abuse as a child and defend his child from the same cycle of abuse, you are the problem.[/quote]
Lol, you sir are a fucking idiot if you think I was abused.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
There should be an outright ban on the sentence, “I was spanked and I turned out fine” in this thread.
There are tons of people who had to endure terrible abuse as kids and they turned out “fine”, not because of that abuse but despite it.*
*Not singling out usmc, or suggesting he was abused.
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I agree. This is just poor logic.
If somebody said, “I was spanked and I really feel it helped me grow into a well adjusted adult with a healthy respect for authority and appropriate boundaries, and as a result I have made a considered decision to apply a similar approach to my own child”, that would hold more water for me.[/quote]
I was spanked a handful of times and feel it helped me grow into a well adjusted adult with a healthy respect for authority. When I have children (2 or 3 years hopefully) I will apply the same approach with my kids.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
There should be an outright ban on the sentence, “I was spanked and I turned out fine” in this thread.
There are tons of people who had to endure terrible abuse as kids and they turned out “fine”, not because of that abuse but despite it.*
*Not singling out usmc, or suggesting he was abused.
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I agree. This is just poor logic.
If somebody said, “I was spanked and I really feel it helped me grow into a well adjusted adult with a healthy respect for authority and appropriate boundaries, and as a result I have made a considered decision to apply a similar approach to my own child”, that would hold more water for me.[/quote]
I was spanked a handful of times and feel it helped me grow into a well adjusted adult with a healthy respect for authority. When I have children (2 or 3 years hopefully) I will apply the same approach with my kids. [/quote]
Yeah, this is how my daughter will be raised. My dad always believed that he shouldn’t have to adjust what he was doing because I wouldn’t behave. At a very young age I knew that what dad said dad meant and the consequences of not doing that were a spanking, or as I got older, hard work and losing privileges. I remember touching stuff that I wasn’t supposed to, Mom would always try to move it and Dad would put it right back and tell me not to touch it. The whippings you got from disobeying a direct instruction such as that made you learn pretty quickly that it was better to just mind. I intend on my daughter having the same understanding.
Every kid is different. My eldest has only been spanked three times in his life. My youngest gets spanked three times a month. I’ve been told my youngest is a lot like me when I was young and I used to get the shit beaten out of me. Sticks, belts, brushes, extension cords, shoes, she broke a broomstick over by back one time. But it didn’t do anything for me other than to make me endure pain better. It certainly didn’t curb my bad behavior.
Now with my eldest kid, he and I have a very close relationship and he values my trust more than he values what ever stupid shit he wants to do in the moment, and he has since he was about eight or nine. My youngest just turned seven and is big, tough, hard headed little asshole who knows how to manipulate his mother to get his way all the time. Frankly, the situation sucks. Every time I set a boundary, she undermines it. It’s better when I get him for several days at a time so that he get’s out of the pattern of being an asshole until the adult gives in and he gets his way. But it’s a LOOOONG few days LOL.
I also THREATEN with the belt, but don’t use it. I’ll take it off, fold it over and SNAP! SNAP! a few times, but I wont hit him with it.
I had no idea what a switch was until I googled it. I didnt grow up in a house where beatings/whoopings took place. I think I can count on 1 hand how many times it happened to me. How you discipline your child is a very personal subject and I do believe culture, geopgraphical area do make a difference, somewhat. I do believe a parent has a right to discipline their child in a way he / she sees fit, there is obvious differences between physical discipline and criminal assault. As a parent I dont want my children to fear me, I want them to give me the utmost respect devoid off physical fear. I want them to fear dissapointing me more than anything else.
I feared dissapointing my father more than anything
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I’ve been told my youngest is a lot like me when I was young [/quote]
Not sure the world is ready for two of you… Just be honest. ;)[/quote]
Dude - tell me about it!
You guys think I’M an asshole? My kid just turned 7, he’s 4’8" tall and weighs 87lbs, built like a brick shit house. His nickname is Bam-Bam because he literally destroys shit when he’s pissed off. He broke my couch because he turned it over and pushed it halfway down the stairs… Because I wouldn’t buy him a game on the I-Pad… He’s got a temper that borders on crazy and he’s big enough and tough enough to where a simple spanking won’t cut it. I don’t even bother anymore. In fact, he fucks with you by looking at you and spanking him SELF. Hard. Seriously, I love that kid to death, but he is an ASSHOLE!
But when he’s NOT being an asshole, he is literally the sweetest little boy on the planet. He shares, super affectionate, outgoing and adventurous - a boy’s boy. But when he’s pissed… LMAO FML
[quote]doogie wrote:
I was beat as a child. Like pinned down, grabbed by the ears, head banged on the ground until I couldn’t see. Thumped on the head with a big metal college ring so it looked like I was hit with a hammer. I was also whipped fairly often, many times with the buckle end of the belt. I don’t know if I turned out alright or not.
That said, I don’t really have anything against swatting a little kid on the butt to get his attention. Once they are able to reason a little bit, it seems like a lazy way to parent to me. I raised my 20 year old step daughter from the age of four, and my 15 year old from birth and never did more than pop them on the butt to let them know I was serious. Most of those times were when they were doing something that could hurt themselves or someone else.
I also taught for four years. I also worked at a a halfway house for kids convicted of molesting other kids. I also worked for Child Protective Services. I kind of believe some kids are “born bad.” I don’t think that can be beat out of a kid, but I don’t really know how to fix them either.[/quote]
You might not know if you turned out alright but from this post it sure as hell looks like you did.
I have a twin, so growing up there wasn’t ever really a shortage of incidents where we wouldn’t find ourselves sticking our noses where they didn’t belong, never anything too serious though.
We used to get the wooden spoon to the ass if we were doing something we shouldn’t, didn’t happen too often, never left bruises, just red welts that I’m sure some of you are familiar with. Anyway, it eventually got to the point where we’d know if we did something we shouldn’t have, so we’d hide the spoons. Well, guess what tips someone off that you’ve been doing shit you shouldn’t be doing? lol
Another time, while my dad fell asleep on his stomach watching a movie, my twin and I got the great idea of grabbing the cutlery (spoons, forks, butter knives, nothing sharp enough to cut by grazing), and stuffing it up the ankles of his pants. I still remember when he stood up, and the jangling of the cutlery falling out of his pants onto the floor, I started laughing my ass and he stormed over to me, pulled my pants down and basically five-starred my ass. So I showed my mom the hand print on my butt, and she gave him shit! hahaha, oh man
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Parents who rely on physical punishment are pathetic. Deal with your kids intellectually. [/quote]
Aren’t you the guy who got arrested for getting caught jerking off in a car while high as a kite?
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If so, then he’s the perfect role model.
As an aside: I never understood the whole jerking and driving thing. Is it that bad that you can’t wait to get home? Or, do you hope someone sees you or something?
