[quote]watermelon_2001 wrote:
I graduated University in July of last year, took a couple months to just chill out and not have to worry about education, work, etc. and then set out looking for work the start of November. 12 months and 70 job applications later, I’m still unemployed, with no prospects. Having stayed in education up to the age of 21, achieving high grades, and even going out to achieve additional qualifications by entering into part-time courses, I can safely say that I feel completely fucking cheated for putting so much effort into all those years, only now to be rejected from posts as high-calibre as ‘dishwasher’, McDonald’s ‘counter assistant’ and chip-shop ‘fish fryer’. Always being told that studying hard will get me where I want to go in life, it seems ironic that had I chose to end my education early and get a head-start on some sort of career, I’d probably be doing better than I am now. Basically what I’m trying to say is, I feel you, OP.[/quote]
I took 7+ years to get an undergrad because I worked full-time the whole duration, and took as many internships as I could get. My grades were nominal because I was always so busy, but I had a rock solid job the day I graduated. I’ve never had a problem getting new jobs in my career field, but that’s always because of my work experience. Never once have I been hired because of a 10 year old degree, nor have I even been asked about it in an interview.
With my kids, I plan on working as many contacts as I can possibly bring to bear to get them a career oriented job during college, and I will do their fucking homework for them just so they can get that little piece of paper. The standard model of “education is your job” is a joke and out of touch with reality.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Overqualified is the nice term for ‘we’re not going to hire you because we know you’re just buying time while looking for a career’. You’re not overqualified, but for a bartender position, I would say you’re other-qualified. How about doing temp work? You can always say no if they offer something real bad, and they just keep searching for assignments that match your availability/interests. You can potentially make some good connections, if you’re a hard worker. The money can be ok, if the right opportunity comes along. I did a 6 month assignment upgrading PC’s (for which they gave you a script a retarded monkey could follow) at $20/hr., which ain’t bad by temp standards.[/quote]
Ditto - Why would I hire you when based on your resume I know you’re not planning to stick around.
Look at it from the employer’s side. I have to invest time and money into hiring and training you. I want/ need a return on my investment. If you plan to come work for me and then leave in 1 mos, 4 mos - who knows how short a time, I’m right back to where I started and now need to start the hiring process all over again. Which means me posting a job and interviewing asshats.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Overqualified is the nice term for ‘we’re not going to hire you because we know you’re just buying time while looking for a career’. You’re not overqualified, but for a bartender position, I would say you’re other-qualified. How about doing temp work? You can always say no if they offer something real bad, and they just keep searching for assignments that match your availability/interests. You can potentially make some good connections, if you’re a hard worker. The money can be ok, if the right opportunity comes along. I did a 6 month assignment upgrading PC’s (for which they gave you a script a retarded monkey could follow) at $20/hr., which ain’t bad by temp standards.[/quote]
Ditto - Why would I hire you when based on your resume I know you’re not planning to stick around.
Look at it from the employer’s side. I have to invest time and money into hiring and training you. I want/ need a return on my investment. If you plan to come work for me and then leave in 1 mos, 4 mos - who knows how short a time, I’m right back to where I started and now need to start the hiring process all over again. Which means me posting a job and interviewing asshats.[/quote]
QFT
I need at minimum a year commitment for the benefits and training expense.
Hey LD you ever get what you needed from that PM you sent me?
[quote]watermelon_2001 wrote:
I graduated University in July of last year, took a couple months to just chill out and not have to worry about education, work, etc. and then set out looking for work the start of November. 12 months and 70 job applications later, I’m still unemployed, with no prospects. Having stayed in education up to the age of 21, achieving high grades, and even going out to achieve additional qualifications by entering into part-time courses, I can safely say that I feel completely fucking cheated for putting so much effort into all those years, only now to be rejected from posts as high-calibre as ‘dishwasher’, McDonald’s ‘counter assistant’ and chip-shop ‘fish fryer’. Always being told that studying hard will get me where I want to go in life, it seems ironic that had I chose to end my education early and get a head-start on some sort of career, I’d probably be doing better than I am now. Basically what I’m trying to say is, I feel you, OP.[/quote]
I took 7+ years to get an undergrad because I worked full-time the whole duration, and took as many internships as I could get. My grades were nominal because I was always so busy, but I had a rock solid job the day I graduated. I’ve never had a problem getting new jobs in my career field, but that’s always because of my work experience. Never once have I been hired because of a 10 year old degree, nor have I even been asked about it in an interview.
With my kids, I plan on working as many contacts as I can possibly bring to bear to get them a career oriented job during college, and I will do their fucking homework for them just so they can get that little piece of paper. The standard model of “education is your job” is a joke and out of touch with reality.
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Seriously, I graduated with a BS in Mech Engineering and took around 1.5 years to get a full-time job after graduating. All my engineering friends that had internships during school got jobs pretty much immediately after graduation. I didn’t do any internships during school. Stoopid on my part.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
Overqualified is the nice term for ‘we’re not going to hire you because we know you’re just buying time while looking for a career’. You’re not overqualified, but for a bartender position, I would say you’re other-qualified. How about doing temp work? You can always say no if they offer something real bad, and they just keep searching for assignments that match your availability/interests. You can potentially make some good connections, if you’re a hard worker. The money can be ok, if the right opportunity comes along. I did a 6 month assignment upgrading PC’s (for which they gave you a script a retarded monkey could follow) at $20/hr., which ain’t bad by temp standards.[/quote]
Ditto - Why would I hire you when based on your resume I know you’re not planning to stick around.
Look at it from the employer’s side. I have to invest time and money into hiring and training you. I want/ need a return on my investment. If you plan to come work for me and then leave in 1 mos, 4 mos - who knows how short a time, I’m right back to where I started and now need to start the hiring process all over again. Which means me posting a job and interviewing asshats.[/quote]
Yeah, when I was out of work and getting really desperate I left off portions of my resume that would leave me overqualified…for some reason the grocery stores still didn’t call me.
All companies know the job market is saturated. They want 20 years exp. for entry level pay. Ten years ago jobs were offering me $100+k to leave college and work for them. I actually had an entry level sales job paying close to this part-time, while I was in school. Today this isn’t going to happen.
Who cares about your degrees, can you fill the bar?
All I hear is you’re out of school, getting old and are not affiliated with groups or clubs that would come to party. You can teach anyone how to pour a manhattan but you can’t teach popularity and good people skills.
Also if every bartender but you is stealing then I don’t want to hire you either. You’re an idiot for not doing the same.
Second what someone said about barbacking. Although if these managers were even considering OP they would have said “wellll we don’t need a bartender but have you considered barbacking?”