I don’t think criminals are necessarily more emboldened as much as they are arrested then released, to commit more crime, because of bail reform. Also, in places like NYC, the mayor has forced the department to stop any proactive policing. I think there are a lot of factors in play, which will vary by location, so it would be hard to just blame one thing for what is happening. It should be clear though, that the answer to crime is not to reduce policing. It’s possible that crime would have gone up regardless of the whole defund movement but at least, the police would have been better prepared to deal with it.
One last thing, in NYC at least, you have a lot more mentally ill people on the streets. Many of those Asian hate crimes are committed by them.
You’ve got cops in every jurisdiction including two in this thread telling you that the two are directly linked. It boggles my mind that people feel the need to explain that these LEOs are wrong from a position of such ignorance.
It would be like me arguing with Australian bodybuilders about why their steroid stack is wrong. It is a laughable premise to begin with. I don’t know anything about bodybuilding, steroids or a single Australian bodybuilder, but I still want to tell them they’re wrong.
It is obvious to anyone paying attention that they are linked. One reason is simple. Cops in Anytown, USA don’t want to become the next viral video and get vilified by the press and thrown in jail by Democrat activists with no regard for facts. Doing the bare minimum with an emphasis on covering ones own ass is the behavior being incentivized across the entire country,
That’s just one reason. Many others were explained upthread and in linked articles.
I don’t think you read what he said with an open mind, in fact, I know you didn’t. You mention two cops in this thread and every jurisdiction at the same time. Those two cops, who I don’t doubt, still represent TWO individuals. St. Louis has a shitty mayor and DA, no one should doubt that, but that isn’t every city or town in the US.
Anytown? Not in my town or the town I work in. There are plenty of towns where I live, that vote mainly democrat, who are also very pro police. But hey, let Fox news tell you how other people think and what they believe. It’s much easier than opening your eyes.
I don’t think this is as absurd as you make it out to be. I’m not discrediting the LEOs opinions by the way, I’m just saying that their specific observations may or may not be representative of what’s going on as a whole. What I found to be absurd is when people would ask me if my experiences in Iraq / Afghanistan were the direct result of Bush / Obama, as though my micro sample of experiences (that I couldn’t even explain fully) somehow made me an expert on foreign policy. The analogy’s not perfect but close enough for government work. I think LEOs are experts on their experiences and their opinions should carry weight, but to assert that they have near-perfect insight on how the social climate and policy rhetoric of the last two years has manifested on the street (edit: across the nation) doesn’t make sense.
Of course you guys. Democrats can’t be to blame. You’ve made many posts explaining how all of the clear connections between Democrat policy, rhetoric and actions are not to blame.
It is something else. Something unrelated to Democrat policy and rhetoric. I just need to open my mind and it will be clear what that is.
That’s all I’ve got today. I’m off to explain something I know fuck-all about to someone who does it for a living.
I’m confident it will go well. I know about a little website called google, after all.
No, you blame ALL democrats even when facts have proven you wrong. We all know that if someone points out something ridiculous that a republicans says or does and said it was a reflection of ALL republicans, you would cry foul. You have the Biden version of TDS. And posters pointed out how this would happen if Trump lost.
The truth is, I don’t care about either party. I think they are both equally bad when taken as a whole. They don’t speak for me or even most Americans because reality is not binary. However, I will point out when a poster is being disingenuous. You chose your side, warts and all, good for you. You are obviously happy. I, on the other hand, could never be happy if I deferred my intellect and sense of reality to some politician, political party, or news pundits.
BTW, you ignore my responses to you out of what I can only imagine is some fear of the truth or something. I however, have answered your “challenges” on this thread and you again, tuck your tail and ignore them. It’s quite sad, really. I expected more.
That’s an equally absurd position that I never laid out. In fact, I used very clear words to say that’s not what I mean, yet here you are still pretending that’s been my point. You’ve been arguing against a straw man using slippery words that contribute very little clarity to the discussion, as you usually do. You rarely stake out a clear position, instead spending your words trying to poke holes in clearly-stated positions with your meaningless semantic quibbling.
I’ve spent more words responding to your meaningless nit-picking than your words deserve.
You’re totally correct zecarlo, not ALL Democrats support the sociopathic anti-cop campaign through policy or rhetoric. It’s just the President, Vice president, every Democrat in the US House of Representatives, likely a majority of Senators and countless Democrats at varying levels of government getting stupid and sociopathic policies enacted, from DA’s to mayors to governors. Hardly any Democrats at all latched on to BLM’s popularity, certainly none worth mentioning.
Other forces are clearly at play when it comes to abysmal crime statistics and police staffing. It couldn’t possibly be a direct result of Democrat policy. Joe Biden says so!
Not a single Republican has advanced this type of policy or rhetoric, but thanks to your extensive efforts in this thread we all understand that not ALL Democrats in the USA actively supported this policy disaster.
We also know about Biden’s bold leadership thanks to your efforts at explaining how he doesn’t favor defunding the police. He just favors ending qualified immunity and making people believe that the white supremacy is rampant among LEO’s.
That’s what I call pro-cop in 2021.
Projection, perhaps? I come on here and make my own points in my own words and I’m not afraid to clearly stake out a position. I can think of few positions you’ve ever staked out and defended. All you do is try to poke little holes and act like you’re somehow above the fray with nonsense like…
For someone who doesn’t care you spend an awful lot of time writing about the subject matter.
In fact, that second sentence is about the closest thing to a clear position you’ve staked out in this thread. Perhaps that’s your mission here on PWI, to be the “both sides are the same” guy and perform the necessary mental gymnastics to preserve that idea.
Prosecutor was on maternity leave and this case did not get reassigned. Having to work with public agencies on a daily basis, this doesn’t surprise me in the least. And knowing a couple big city prosecutors, they are supremely overworked as-is, so no one was volunteering to take on another case.
Terrible situation, that should have been prevented. But, id guess this kind of thing happens more than we would hope.
I cringe when people are so ready and seemingly eager to explain away these types of abysmal outcomes.
If crime is so rampant that “oops, we forgot to show up for the murder trial” is unsurprising, expected and a reasonable explanation due to being over-worked, perhaps that’s a good sign that crime is, in fact, out of control. Here’s a more detailed article.
“The newspaper’s analysis of other court records in criminal cases showed entries of appearance by that assistant prosecutor in about 30 criminal cases — including 20 murders, one of them a death penalty case — after she began leave on May 10.”
It’s a good thing St. Louis elected so many Democrats, well-known for their diligent efforts to advance policy with proven track records of increasing public safety. I can only imagine how terrible things would be if not for their sensible and effective methods of governance.
“It’s miserable,” said Moore’s mother, who did not want to be identified for fear of her son’s alleged killer. “I feel like it just happened yesterday, just pain, just coming back. To think about somebody who took your son’s life and he’s out of jail. That’s horrifying.”
