Oral Deca?

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[quote]taxmanchris wrote:
BAD BRAD-POLOKO wrote:
What’s the clomid going to do for if you have progestin related sides from the DECA ?

Hey! You’re pretty sharp! First, Winstrol may have anti-progestenic effects.

Second, Clomid will help to guard against testicular atrophy. That way you will still have something to eat.

Third, post-cycle, Clomid will help to jumpstart endogenous T production.

You are truly a dumb bastard.[/quote]

Your going on Deca and winstrol with not enough test to balance the cycle off and your talking about keeping your balls and sex drive up with CLOMID NO SIR YOU ARE TRULY A DUMB NEWBIE !

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[quote]BAD BRAD-POLOKO wrote:
Your going on Deca and winstrol with not enough test to balance the cycle off and your talking about keeping your balls and sex drive up with CLOMID NO SIR YOU ARE TRULY A DUMB NEWBIE !

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Hey, my good buddy Brad! I’ll be starting my cycle in the middle of July and finishing near the end of September. I’ll let you know how everything went.

Of course, if my balls don’t shrink and my sex drive stays up, I’ll get back to you sooner. I’m interested in that ORAL PLEASURE you offered a few days ago.

Sincerely,
Dumb Newbie

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[quote]taxmanchris wrote:
BAD BRAD-POLOKO wrote:
Your going on Deca and winstrol with not enough test to balance the cycle off and your talking about keeping your balls and sex drive up with CLOMID NO SIR YOU ARE TRULY A DUMB NEWBIE !

Hey, my good buddy Brad! I’ll be starting my cycle in the middle of July and finishing near the end of September. I’ll let you know how everything went.

Of course, if my balls don’t shrink and my sex drive stays up, I’ll get back to you sooner. I’m interested in that ORAL PLEASURE you offered a few days ago.

Sincerely,
Dumb Newbie[/quote]

Take the advice And add in the extra test also And maybe look into some ritalin for that ADD as it’s getting real bad as it seems you are starting to confuse T-Nation with your gay an lesbian chat line .

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[quote]BAD BRAD-POLOKO wrote:
Take the advice And add in the extra test also And maybe look into some ritalin for that ADD as it’s getting real bad as it seems you are starting to confuse T-Nation with your gay an lesbian chat line .

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Brad–I don’t particularly care for you, but for once, you’ve made me laugh. That’s the first good comeback you’ve had.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Chris

I really think that you should increase the weekly amount of test… really.

150mg is a tiny dose by itself. I know you’ve got the SHBG effects of the winny to increase free to bound test ratio, but you’ve also got a fair amount of deca shutting you down.

400 mg / week would be a better ball-park figure.

Also, there has been research to suggest that the longer you take clomid, the less sensitive to it you become. This might make your PCT pretty tricky. Also don’t forget that clomid can make you feel very ‘weird’ in an emotional, girly way. It does to me and I absolutely HATE the feeling…something to consider.

Good luck
bushboy[/quote]

It appears that I’ve got a few options. Back in the 90’s, I read everything written by Dan Duchaine. I know a lot of people don’t like him, but the guy definitely knew his shit. He often recommended, for a regular, non-pro guy like me, to stay at or under a gram a week. What doseages would you recommend for the cycle I’m planning, using deca, prop, and winstrol depot?

One of the reasons that I want to use deca is because it’s supposed to be easy on the hairline. I know that there is some risk with anything, but I’m leaning toward safe and sane amounts. My dad started going bald in his late teens/early twenties, but I’m almost 33 and haven’t lost a single hair. I don’t know if this is any indication of my genetics. I just don’t want to lose any hair.

As far as the attenuation of Clomid’s effects, should I save it for the last few weeks and then PCT, and opt for something else during the rest? Which anti-e would you recommend? I live 90 minutes away from Tijuana, and can probably get almost anything.

Thanks for your help.
Chris

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Deca is easy on the hair, for those that are prone to hairloss Winny is the worst, hands down.

500 mgs of test would work nicely, you could go lower, or higher, but 500 is nice.

Arimidex is my favorite anti-e for substantial test use, 500mgs wouldn’t need much so err on the side of less arimidex, trust me too low estrogen levels is not fun. You need a little estro for your libido, believe it or not. That said for post cycle therapy I like throwing in Nolva: I don’t like high doses of clomid and there seems to be a rebound estrogen affect coming off of arimidex, or any anti-aromitase, although I’ve only used arimidex enought to experience that. I used letro a short while, didn’t like it.

Dan Duchaine was quite knowledgable but became disenchanted with the whole juice scene towards the end. That makes his writings on juice very, very dated. Granted as far as steriods go not much has changed, but PCT and estrogen controlling therapies have improved dramatically in the last few years.

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When I saw this thread title I was like, “Oral Deca, Bullshit”!! But found out that there is such a thing, along with oral Trenbolone and Masteron.

Continue on fellas I just thought that, that would be an interesting little tid bit, along with my new killer recipe for 7layer dip nachos!!:wink:

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Go with Nolva during, clomid (+ nolva) for PCT. This is widely recognised as the way to go. If you can afford it then an AI is very useful. I have been using it for the first time in this cycle and am pleased with the results.

Gonna stop typing now
bushboy[/quote]

Thanks for the info!

By AI, I assume you mean aromatase inhibitor. The only one I have ever learned about was called Teslac, or something like that. Which ones would you recommend? I may be going to Tijuana this week or the next. If they are halfway affordable, I may get one.

Also, would anything change about the timing/dosage of an estrogen antagonist if I use an aromatase inhibitor?

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[quote]Sancho wrote:
When I saw this thread title I was like, “Oral Deca, Bullshit”!! But found out that there is such a thing, along with oral Trenbolone and Masteron.

Continue on fellas I just thought that, that would be an interesting little tid bit, along with my new killer recipe for 7layer dip nachos!!;)[/quote]

I’m aware of oral tren and masteron But DECA are you sure your not thinking about ORABOLIN or some otc 19 nor precursor I know some call ORABOLIN oral DECA but it’s not .

Sancho It would be great if you could post info on the Oral Deca as I can’t find any evidence of it’s existance anywhere .

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[quote]taxmanchris wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Go with Nolva during, clomid (+ nolva) for PCT. This is widely recognised as the way to go. If you can afford it then an AI is very useful. I have been using it for the first time in this cycle and am pleased with the results.

Gonna stop typing now
bushboy

Thanks for the info!

By AI, I assume you mean aromatase inhibitor. The only one I have ever learned about was called Teslac, or something like that. Which ones would you recommend? I may be going to Tijuana this week or the next. If they are halfway affordable, I may get one.

Also, would anything change about the timing/dosage of an estrogen antagonist if I use an aromatase inhibitor?[/quote]

Arimidex (anastrozole),Femara   (Letrozole)  there are more But these are the most common and easily available .
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[quote]BAD BRAD-POLOKO wrote:
Sancho wrote:
When I saw this thread title I was like, “Oral Deca, Bullshit”!! But found out that there is such a thing, along with oral Trenbolone and Masteron.

Continue on fellas I just thought that, that would be an interesting little tid bit, along with my new killer recipe for 7layer dip nachos!!:wink:

I’m aware of oral tren and masteron But DECA are you sure your not thinking about ORABOLIN or some otc 19 nor precursor I know some call ORABOLIN oral DECA but it’s not .

Sancho It would be great if you could post info on the Oral Deca as I can’t find any evidence of it’s existance anywhere .

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You were right bro, I had the wrong compound!

The oral Masteron and Trenbalone are made by IP and I was reading the IP catalog a little to fast!

My apologies fellas!!

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[quote]Sancho wrote:
BAD BRAD-POLOKO wrote:
Sancho wrote:
When I saw this thread title I was like, “Oral Deca, Bullshit”!! But found out that there is such a thing, along with oral Trenbolone and Masteron.

Continue on fellas I just thought that, that would be an interesting little tid bit, along with my new killer recipe for 7layer dip nachos!!:wink:

I’m aware of oral tren and masteron But DECA are you sure your not thinking about ORABOLIN or some otc 19 nor precursor I know some call ORABOLIN oral DECA but it’s not .

Sancho It would be great if you could post info on the Oral Deca as I can’t find any evidence of it’s existance anywhere .

You were right bro, I had the wrong compound!

The oral Masteron and Trenbalone are made by IP and I was reading the IP catalog a little to fast!

My apologies fellas!!
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 I was looking at the chinaman's catalog and noticed he is starting to carry alot of human grade in addition to his own UG stuff  But you really can't beat a 100 ml flask at his price  in the first place .
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Yes BBP,

IP has some good stuff!! There have been all kinds of feedback on IP’s gear as well. Some love it some think it’s bunk, I’ve only used his Test E once and I liked it alot.

I have a chance to get some of his Chewable Orals too! The chewables are supposed to be more quickly “absorbed”.

And like you said BBP, you just can’t beat the price on his 100ml flask!!