I am personally amazed at all the misconstructions of a few people’s posts that have gone on in this thread.
[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
I am personally amazed at all the misconstructions of a few people’s posts that have gone on in this thread.[/quote]
I am curious do you mean the way a few people promote disinformation so the thread loses it’s intent ?
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
“Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie,
Which we ascribe to Heaven.”
“Flying spaghetti monster created the universe”
- Actually it was created by Fridge Magnet the Great, son of Frangipani Pants and I can prove it. You know all those things we can’t explain? Fridge Magnet does/did them. See?[/quote]
Nope, don’t see…Prove it.[/quote]
Now you’re just being difficult. How do you explain the complexity of the eyeball? Answer: Fridge Magnet. The fact that complicated organic systems exist is proof in itself of the existence of Fridge Magnet.[/quote]
How? Let’s see the argument. Sounds like a ‘Fridge Magnet of gaps theory’ to me…[/quote]
Not sure how far my sarcasm can carry me here but:
The gaps argument is predicated upon the idea that Fridge Magnet only operates in gaps. Fridge Magnet operates everywhere. And just because an event/action may be explained by scientific methods doesn’t mean that Fridge Magnet didn’t do it.
I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:<<< I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.[/quote]Arms open and waiting. Is this your higher power? Sounds like an AA meeting. This is, again, why epistemology is the only conversation that matters in any of this.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
“Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie,
Which we ascribe to Heaven.”
“Flying spaghetti monster created the universe”
- Actually it was created by Fridge Magnet the Great, son of Frangipani Pants and I can prove it. You know all those things we can’t explain? Fridge Magnet does/did them. See?[/quote]
Nope, don’t see…Prove it.[/quote]
Now you’re just being difficult. How do you explain the complexity of the eyeball? Answer: Fridge Magnet. The fact that complicated organic systems exist is proof in itself of the existence of Fridge Magnet.[/quote]
How? Let’s see the argument. Sounds like a ‘Fridge Magnet of gaps theory’ to me…[/quote]
Not sure how far my sarcasm can carry me here but:
The gaps argument is predicated upon the idea that Fridge Magnet only operates in gaps. Fridge Magnet operates everywhere. And just because an event/action may be explained by scientific methods doesn’t mean that Fridge Magnet didn’t do it.
I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.[/quote]
Ok, so, what does that have to do with anything?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:<<< I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.[/quote]Arms open and waiting. Is this your higher power? Sounds like an AA meeting. This is, again, why epistemology is the only conversation that matters in any of this.
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Do you know what the word ‘epistemology’ means? You’re misuse of the word here makes me think you do not.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:<<< I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.[/quote]Arms open and waiting. Is this your higher power? Sounds like an AA meeting. This is, again, why epistemology is the only conversation that matters in any of this.
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Do you know what the word ‘epistemology’ means? You’re misuse of the word here makes me think you do not.[/quote]You think in error and I stand by my statement.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:<<< I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.[/quote]Arms open and waiting. Is this your higher power? Sounds like an AA meeting. This is, again, why epistemology is the only conversation that matters in any of this.
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Do you know what the word ‘epistemology’ means? You’re misuse of the word here makes me think you do not.[/quote]You think in error and I stand by my statement.
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Ok, define it then…because your statement doesn’t make any sense. Has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing, just non-nonsensical.
Until we determine how anything whatever is known at all debating individual items of knowledge is meaningless. Like I told Ephrem. It’s like arguing over what’s on TV when you have no electricity.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Until we determine how anything whatever is known at all debating individual items of knowledge is meaningless. Like I told Ephrem. It’s like arguing over what’s on TV when you have no electricity.[/quote]
All you need is a TV guide 
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Until we determine how anything whatever is known at all debating individual items of knowledge is meaningless. Like I told Ephrem. It’s like arguing over what’s on TV when you have no electricity.[/quote]
Except you just introduced a massive red herring. That conversation is happening elsewhere actually.
These guys are trying and doing a rather poor job of, to prove I believe in a God of Gaps theory. No need to divert it by suddenly talking about epistemology, fascinating topic, but has nothing to do with this topic. There is plenty of material on epistimology, but you have to read satanic books like ‘A Prologema to Any Future Metaphysics’ to really understand the topic.
Now you already admit to a ‘God of gaps’ belief, where if anything a little weird happens you believe God came down from heaven and did it. This is caveman theology, but suit yourself.
Such a notion was dispelled well over 2000 years ago. Reason is a beautiful tool, it’s a shame you are so afraid of it.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
“Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie,
Which we ascribe to Heaven.”
“Flying spaghetti monster created the universe”
- Actually it was created by Fridge Magnet the Great, son of Frangipani Pants and I can prove it. You know all those things we can’t explain? Fridge Magnet does/did them. See?[/quote]
Nope, don’t see…Prove it.[/quote]
Now you’re just being difficult. How do you explain the complexity of the eyeball? Answer: Fridge Magnet. The fact that complicated organic systems exist is proof in itself of the existence of Fridge Magnet.[/quote]
How? Let’s see the argument. Sounds like a ‘Fridge Magnet of gaps theory’ to me…[/quote]
Not sure how far my sarcasm can carry me here but:
The gaps argument is predicated upon the idea that Fridge Magnet only operates in gaps. Fridge Magnet operates everywhere. And just because an event/action may be explained by scientific methods doesn’t mean that Fridge Magnet didn’t do it.
I have to go and prostrate myself before my fridge now.[/quote]
Ok, so, what does that have to do with anything?[/quote]
It’s my attempt to take the side of a debate that I would rather not be on, after posting a sarcastic remark and receiving pertinent challenges from the opposition. Like when we had a ‘marijuana should be legalised’ debate at uni and I was put on the pro side. I didn’t do very well. My invectives seemed disingenuous to say the least. I imagine it’s what criminal lawyers go through each time they have a scumbag defendant they know is guilty and have to enter a not guilty plea and defend them.