Only Public or Private Schools?

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[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Public or private, does it matter as long as basic education is mandatory? As an example, Finland wouldn’t be the relatively wealthy country it is today without a public school. Look at the rise of India or China, public basic education, it is the best way to reach to the potential in lower classes. If the public schooling system sucks, as it in America apparently does for the most part, thats another question entirely.[/quote]

Private, but mandatory. I like it.[/quote]

That’s essentially the idea of the voucher system. Which is probably at least a little better than what we have right now.
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As long as it was left at the state level it would be a lot better.
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Well of course. The more decentralized, the better.

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[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Public or private, does it matter as long as basic education is mandatory? As an example, Finland wouldn’t be the relatively wealthy country it is today without a public school. Look at the rise of India or China, public basic education, it is the best way to reach to the potential in lower classes. If the public schooling system sucks, as it in America apparently does for the most part, thats another question entirely.[/quote]

Private, but mandatory. I like it.[/quote]

That’s essentially the idea of the voucher system. Which is probably at least a little better than what we have right now.
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As long as it was left at the state level it would be a lot better.
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Well of course. The more decentralized, the better.[/quote]

Also with Private schools class rooms would be smaller and thus more teacher student interaction which leads to better education.

Compared to what we have now the Voucher system is like night and day.

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A true education should impart accumulated knowledge and should teach critical thinking and reasoning skills.

Quickest way to best answer of which institution (public or private) accomplishes the above mission - take a poll of our PWI “libertarians” and see the basis of their education. Then, we have our answer as to which is best - the other one.

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I grew up in public schools, but my undergrad and graduate work were in a Private University. I will say I learned more in College of how to critically think and reason than all of my previous 13 years in public school.

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@TB: The majority of ones education is privately obtained regardless if ones formal education was obtained in a public or private institution.

And besides, just because one goes to “school” does not mean one has been educated.

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[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
I live by the virtue of empati.

but I am concerd, because I believe that it is importent in a democracy that
all of the public knows how to read, that they know history and more.

on the other hand I aknowledge the importence of intellectual skills to succseed
in our modern society. people who is left out of the education system does have bigger
a bigger chance to fall in the bottom of the society that their educated counterparts.
and since I am an egalitarian person by heart ( have always been, even as a child ) this is importent
for me. maybe not for you, but you have other ideals than me.
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I wrote a gem of a post, but sadly, my pc froze.

So heres the short version:

Heres the problem
People see the poor and ask “How are they going to receive education in a private system?” Their instinctive collective answer is " WE got to do something". They have immediatly thrown me and others into the mix. They ask for my money, my time. They do not take into account my goals, my happiness, my aspirations. They do not ask themselves “What I can do”. But if they were really passionate about it, they would ask that. They would raise the capital. Make the time. Produce connections and persuade investors. They would create schools that ran off donations, charities, investments, and private money. The ones with a sound philosophical base do it this way. They don’t sit in room writing up a bill that is going to FORCE others to donate to this view.

So if your not going to pursue this idea of helping the poor through private means and your own measures then you 1) dont really give a shit and lack the passion or 2) Have been brainwashed by the collective WE idea.

ps- I have a strong passion for education and I will be the guy who will open up a center for the unfortunate. :)[/quote]

I agree with your basic principle. Some wealthy businessman was looking how to invest his and other investors money for his community. He crunched some hardcore numbers and found that a headstart pre-preschool program will reduce incarceration rates down the line at a massive savings to tax payers.

we should be doing much much more of this. Unfortunately social programs aint looking so hot right now and I don’t see communities investing private funds at any great rate either.