But you trust a random drug dealer whose qualifications are unknown?
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I need a diagram for this logic train.
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I assure you that the irony of what I said is not lost on me, I live in an apartment with limited space and I have no interest in selling to other people so the cost of a properly sterilized environment would be too much for only my consumptions besides the fact that I don’t have the space for it
I’m hoping that these mass producers have a more appropriate production environment than I could ever setup for my use, otherwise we are all screwed and people would be dropping like flies and it would be all over the news. Since it is not, I’m assuming/hoping/praying they are doing a decent job of maintaining a decent production environment, not out of any concern for their users but to protect their business
Maybe the fact that I know how easy it is to taint things is making me paranoid, I think if I was ignorant of how many things can go wrong very easily I would be more inclined to cook in less than a perfect environment
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If you’re concerned about it (as one SHOULD be), then stick to pharmaceutical grade gear. You can go a long way with test, primo, and HGH, all of which can be purchased as pharma grade.
How do you know if it is, anyone can claim that their gear pharmacy grade it’s not like they are licensed businesses or inspected by health authorities
The websites that sell it will have pics of the gear that include the brand name/manufacturer. Plenty of pharma companies make test.
When you receive an order, the packaging should have a lot number, manufacturing date, expiration date, the city and country of production, a complete list of ingredients (including amounts), and it should include a thorough informational insert inside the package. As far as I understand, few-to-no UGLs include all of this.
The gamble, of course, is that you can’t see all of this until it arrives, so it could be money wasted. That’s why thorough research of a seller should be performed prior to buying.
You need like 25sq ft and the environment does not need to be sterile. Home brewing is a world away from running an actual lab that sells to the public.
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But that’s exactly what I mean, unless the labs are using a sterile environment then they are home brewing on a larger scale.
You are injecting this stuff into your self, you are not going to produce 5-10 vials at a time you will at a minimum produce 25-50 vials, no one will sell you the raw powder in less than 50 grams if not more, at 100mg/ml that’s 50 vials of 10ml each. You can increase the concentration so you produce fewer vials but then you would have to increase the solvents which will increase the burn at the injection site, besides the fact you won’t use higher concentration vials at the same speed.
I’ve never made more than 50ml at a time.
Very very untrue. You can buy as little as 1g at a time if you so choose. I know of two raw suppliers who sell by the gram and do very robust business.
when I looked into buying, the suppliers I found were all in China, and they didn’t ship anything less than 50 grams, and the shipping cost was very high, if memory serves correctly it was more than the cost of the Test Enanthate, to be fair they had much lower shipping costs if you wanted it to be shipped from China, if you wanted it shipped locally it was much higher, but for me it was safer to have them ship it to someone else, and then that person shipping it to me locally so I don’t run the risk of seizure or having to answer questions to big brother
A few things. One, yes every single raw supplier is in China. (Many many many of them are in Wuhan, which is fun) Two, there is a major supplier in China operated by an American who ships to anywhere in the world. It comes through Customs, goes to a domestic reshipper, then arrives at the customer’s door like any other USPS piece of mail. That’s a fairly standard business model for raw vendors these days. The supply of black market drugs is vast and it outstrips demand by a wide margin.
thank you for your information, I don’t want to exceed our hosts hospitality on T-Nations, so I sent you an email to continue the conversation outside of t-nation if you are ok with that. Thank you