Those are essentially my initial / root symptoms pretty much on the nose that lead me to seek out TRT in the first place. I never suspected thyroid until reading on here and once my complications from TRT began but every Doctor I have spoke with since beginning TRT have told me that my thyroid is fine - a total of 3 doctors now.
I think I posted some temps earlier but I will run the full day of temps again tomorrow. I tested just now it was 96.8.
Would a GP be able to prescribe the time release T3? Sorry, I donāt know how this stuff works and since it has to be a compounding pharmacy I just didnāt know if a regular doctor even uses those or if only these TRT / anti-aging types do.
My Cortisol was tested exactly at 8am. I made sure I was the first blood draw of the day.
Thank you too! Iām glad Iām not crazy because to be honestā¦with everything going on inside my body and how my mind is complete mush these daysā¦I was beginning to think I was losing my mind.
@KSman would you be willing / able to write me up something I can take / send to the doctor that lays this out in a way they will accept / listen to? I donāt know if there are private messages on this forum or not.
You still have low estrogen and still being given the wrong test. I donāt see TT or FT on this set of blood workā¦ your being sold a crock of āwe donāt know enough to give you a real answer so we are gonna make up some vague $hitā. Itās up to you boss. I donāt want you to suffer but itās all STARING at you in the face.
The Free and Total Testosterone numbers are there (544/13.3) but I totally agree with you about the rest. I am already getting my info together to talk to the doctor(s) about. Iāll start calling them on Monday to set appointments - surely one of them will see it IF I can put into terms they understand.
Hey brother, I see them now. Yep. Your FT is on the low end and your TT is sub optimal with low estrogen. Iām still convinced that you need an increase in T with no AI. I canāt speak on thyroid issues and there are obviously some very knowledgeable individuals already addressing that. Based on what I see nothing has changed for the better since I started following your post. I can understand how you feel but until you address some of these concerns we wonāt know the outcome or if your body ārejectsā testosterone. Iāll keep watching and hoping for the best for ya bud.
Yes, my intention is to try to resume TRT once I have my thyroid sorted. I just think it will be easier to assess āwhat is doing whatā if I introduce one piece at a time and right now my thyroid takes priority - especially since it is probably the root cause of my initial problems AND the horrible issues I have on TRT (AI introduced problems aside).
I definitely appreciate the support and others reinforcing that Iām not crazy for thinking there had to be a reason my body reacted the way it did to testosterone. I just wish it wasnāt the weekendā¦I have to sit and be ticked for three days and then still wait for an appointment.
Iāve been doing a LOT of reading and everything lines up with @KSman recommendations for T3 only. I have read that if my adrenals are weak that I could have similar side effects from the T3 that Iāve had from testosterone (heart palpitations, anxiety, high BP, etc.) so should I be concerned? Should I run the 4x Saliva Cortisol test? I just do NOT want to start that all over again.
I also read where some people had luck running T3 for 8-12 weeks in order to reduce their rT3 and then taper off and their rT3 remained low (they called it āflushing out rT3ā). I donāt suppose there is a downside to thisā¦worst case would be I would just have to go back on T3 if my rT3 / symptoms returned.
All of this is just SO complicated and so many of the symptoms / side effects overlap between testosterone, thyroid and adrenals / cortisol. It seems impossible to know what needs fixed and what the root cause isā¦ some people say adrenal fatigue is caused by thyroid issues and others argue the reverse and some say adrenal fatigue is a myth.
Update: Went to the doctor today and he said my high rT3 āwasnāt a problemā and never shouldāve been tested and tried to prescribe me an SSRI - he says Iām just depressed. So I donāt know what to do from this point. I may try an endocrinologist but theyāre a couple hours away and scheduling a couple weeks out.
Thank you. It sucks for all of us that have to deal with this level of complacency (or perhaps itās incompetence) in a field that directly affects otherās health, well-being and quality of life. If itās something thatās uncommon or you donāt know - JUST SAY SO! Then crack a book and do some research. Itād take all of 5 minutes to see all these symptoms are caused directly by this issue. If this is the level of care in our healthCARE system then those of us that are willing to do the research should be able to personally get the medicines we need. If people make bad choices or misuse them then itās just āthinning the herdā but for those of us who care about our health and are trying to prolong our lives and the quality of that lifeā¦all they do is make us miserable and suffer. Thatās the only thing thatās making me depressed and Iām not going to take an SSRI for that.
Dude even the labs indicate your reverse T3 is high, doctor clearly doesnāt understand whatās at play or he does and is play the stupid card. At the end of the day everything boils down to money, he simply doesnāt believe you are stuffing enough for treatment. The must justify everything they do to insurance companies, if money grew on trees doctors would treat everyone who came in to the office.
Sick care model. Doctors seeing 35 patients a day and averaging 5 minutes per patient face to face and 10 minutes filling out insurance paperwork to get paid. Its broken.
Quick question: I have been researching the T3 meds and it appears that if my Iron level is not high enough (which I think I was below mid-point on the my range on the last test) I will have the side effects I hate most (rapid heart rate, high BP, palpitations, etc.) but my Hematocrit is already at the high end of the scale wonāt the Iron supplementation put me over? Then I will have to donate and that will cause a loss of Ironā¦seems like a merry-go-round I canāt win.