Omega 3's Are Bad For You?

Nutrition
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[quote]PaleoMuscle wrote:
Absolutely. 10000 years is nothing when we’re talking a span of over a million or more.
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AMAZING!! You actually know the degree of variation that has occurred in the human genome in the last 10,000 years? Do tell.

Stop eating your peanut butter then, skippy, as well as beef, chicken, fish, milk products, etc.

I asked a couple PhD’s in human physiology about this. They say you’re wrong. Why are you correct? What are your sources on this grain allergy and the immune system?

What region/gene pool is what she was getting at smart guy.

That current levels are too high.

What’s instinctual about eating what you can get?

I give up after this. You can’t fix stupid.

-Dan

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[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
PaleoMuscle wrote:
Absolutely. 10000 years is nothing when we’re talking a span of over a million or more.

AMAZING!! You actually know the degree of variation that has occurred in the human genome in the last 10,000 years? Do tell.

Yes.

Stop eating your peanut butter then, skippy, as well as beef, chicken, fish, milk products, etc.

Exactly. The newest foods in humankind’s diet are the most allergenic. Ofcourse everyone responds differently (for example many are allergic to cooked eggs, but when eaten raw they have no allergy). Don’t forget many of these allergies could primarily be due to consumption of grains affecting their immune system. As for protein powders and fish oil, neither has been proven long term.

I asked a couple PhD’s in human physiology about this. They say you’re wrong. Why are you correct? What are your sources on this grain allergy and the immune system?

Hundreds of thousands of years ago – primative man.

What region/gene pool is what she was getting at smart guy.

Furthermore our consumption of saturated fat has actually changed little in the last 100 years or so.

…and it has been in the last 100 years that chronic disease has continued to be a major health problem.

What’s your point?

That current levels are too high.

It’s not? I would think eating to survive is fairly obvious.

What’s instinctual about eating what you can get?

I give up after this. You can’t fix stupid.

-Dan[/quote]

You’re clueless buddy, as your other posts prove too.

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[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Most of the fat I eat is from block cheddar cheese and butter. Also egg yolks, sour cream, and natural fats in meat as well(primarily beef). I usually eat the fatty portion on the outside of the steak.

Heh, I didn’t think it’d be available in capsule form :slight_smile: Although I hear pork fat popsickles are convenient after making bacon.

The reason I ask where you were getting them is I thought the difference in how you feel may be due to the simple increase in caloric intake. Have you tried higher unsat/omega 3’s for a year vs higher sat fat for a year while basically controling for caloric intake? Sorry if you mentioned that earlier in the thread, a lot of the responses threw me off track of the intelligent stuff.

Have a good one,

Dan

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Pork fat popsicles… mmmmmmmmmm. Yeah I’ve tried the monounsaturated and Omega 3 route in very high doses. Up to 2L a week in Olive oil and 15g a day of combined EPA/DHA. Gram per gram saturated fat provides much more satiety for me than mono/poly fats. I’m probably eating a little less calories now considering sat fat curbs my appetite considerably more.

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[quote]Angelbutt wrote:
Bri - just to clarify, I wasn’t taking a stab at you in particular.

…a good thread, you’ve started! [/quote]

LOL Thanks, no offence taken. :slight_smile:

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I think it’s important to note, we will never adapt to todays Standard American Diet. Give it a million years and it’ll never happen. For this to occur, the people with the best tolerance for this diet will have to have more children than the people who poorly tolerate it. Presently birthrate seems to be dictated for the most part by education and socioecomonics. Genes don’t magically change after eating the same foods over generations.

I think a good starting place is to look at what hunter/gatherer’s may have eaten. If that’s the food we had available at the time, the people who thrived on the foods that allowed us bigger brains and certain other adaptations would be selected from the population.

But I’d think it only gives us guidelines. We’d be better off with experimentation to see what we actually do best on rather than using logic from ages ago to dictate our eating habits. Include the incredible variation in the human race and it’s makes things even harder to decipher. Most nutritional/medical research on people assumes that we are all the same. I don’t see how we are going to move ahead unless we get rid of this mindset.

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[quote]Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Pork fat popsicles… mmmmmmmmmm.
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A strongman classic :slight_smile:

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Yeah I’ve tried the monounsaturated and Omega 3 route in very high doses. Up to 2L a week in Olive oil and 15g a day of combined EPA/DHA. Gram per gram saturated fat provides much more satiety for me than mono/poly fats. I’m probably eating a little less calories now considering sat fat curbs my appetite considerably more.[/quote]

Interesting - have you maintained the same weight throughout playing around with your fat intake?

-Dan

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[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Pork fat popsicles… mmmmmmmmmm.

A strongman classic :slight_smile:

Yeah I’ve tried the monounsaturated and Omega 3 route in very high doses. Up to 2L a week in Olive oil and 15g a day of combined EPA/DHA. Gram per gram saturated fat provides much more satiety for me than mono/poly fats. I’m probably eating a little less calories now considering sat fat curbs my appetite considerably more.

Interesting - have you maintained the same weight throughout playing around with your fat intake?

-Dan

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My bf% doesn’t really change too much. It usually hovers around 8. My bodyweight is heavier now but I’ve also increased my protein so it’s hard to say what’s doing what. I have a feeling it’s more a function of increased protein than anything. I was eating 200 grams a day of protein pretty consistantly up until about a year ago. I usually stayed at around 220lbs, then went up rather quickly to 230lbs upon eating 300 a day. I even went up to 400 grams for a point and got up to 238 lbs but I started to feel not as healthy, and playing volleyball was getting harder to do.

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[quote]Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
buffalokilla wrote:
Bri Hildebrandt wrote:
Pork fat popsicles… mmmmmmmmmm.

A strongman classic :slight_smile:

Yeah I’ve tried the monounsaturated and Omega 3 route in very high doses. Up to 2L a week in Olive oil and 15g a day of combined EPA/DHA. Gram per gram saturated fat provides much more satiety for me than mono/poly fats. I’m probably eating a little less calories now considering sat fat curbs my appetite considerably more.

Interesting - have you maintained the same weight throughout playing around with your fat intake?

-Dan

My bf% doesn’t really change too much. It usually hovers around 8. My bodyweight is heavier now but I’ve also increased my protein so it’s hard to say what’s doing what. I have a feeling it’s more a function of increased protein than anything. I was eating 200 grams a day of protein pretty consistantly up until about a year ago. I usually stayed at around 220lbs, then went up rather quickly to 230lbs upon eating 300 a day. I even went up to 400 grams for a point and got up to 238 lbs but I started to feel not as healthy, and playing volleyball was getting harder to do.[/quote]

What are your protein sources? Do you supplement with any powders?

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[quote]PaleoMuscle wrote:
What are your protein sources? Do you supplement with any powders?
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Protein sources are eggs, beef and protein powders for the most part. I get some chicken and pork the odd time too. I probably consume too much from protein powders but it’s cheap and convenient. I usually don’t factor in the protein I get from cheese and other foods. It’s all estimations really. I don’t break out the scale. :slight_smile:

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Wow,sounds like we have a bunch of DHA experts here.You see,the problem I have is no one here knows exactly what effects long chain polyunsaturated fatty acids have on a cellular level.Yet,we have someone post a concern over the possible dangers associated with both n-3 and n-6 pufas.

Quickly someone pointed out his motive to sell his product.Somewhere along the line,this same person was sold on the benefits of DHA.I remember when n-6 pufas were going to rid the planet of cardiovascular disease and obesity.Didn’t quite work out.Now the newest superhero is n-3 pufas.You should not be so dismissive of the dangers related to pufas.

The World has been duped into believing cholesterol needs to be eliminated from our diet.We have been told for many decades now to replace cholesterol with pufas.There isn’t a shred of proof that cholesterol is causitive of most diseases today.The same cannot be said for pufas.Ask any doctor today to check your cholesterol level.Chances are you may be put on a statin.

Ask that same doctor how pufas alter cholesterol synthesis and degradation machinery or possibly affect protein s-acylation.Ask how depletion of cholesterol will affect mitochondrial function.Ask how esterification differences in n-3 pufas may lead to insoluble soap formation with divalent cations and affect proper digestion.

The problem I have is that the individuals that have the least amount of knowledge regarding pufas are usually the first to tell you how great DHA is.We might as well be adding it to infant formula.Oh wait,We are.
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Of all the threads to post on, you bump an almost 4 year old one! wtf

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Nobody listens to me anyway!

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interesting