Old Biotest Euphoric Product?

[quote]T Ham wrote:
Because even if these products don’t work as well as they possibly could, like all other Biotest products, having something that works decently (for the price) is better than nothing at all.[/quote]

I remember reading a few years back that some products don’t make it because they are not affordable. They used Ribose-C as an example. Biotest used to make that product but it went away because it was just too expensive to produce to Tim’s standards. (Correct me if I’m wrong.)

[quote]TC wrote:
jdrannin1 wrote:
DSQ98 wrote:
A while back I remember reading a post by TC saying that that product never materialized. They couldn’t get it up to Biotest standards. I don’t believe the current Spikes related but don’t hold me to that. Also I know Brock Strasser was working on that product and I believe he jumped ship some time back.

Brock Strasser is Bruce Kneller. The guy busted for steroids and illegal possetion of firearms.

I think he was better with Biotest. Biotest’s old products kill Gaspari’s new ones.

TC mentioned him a while ago. I dont think in a very fond light either. lol

“Brock” never developed a single supplement for Biotest.

He would just read a few research papers and then try to kitchen-sink a “supplement” together with little rhyme or reason.[/quote]

Wow! By reading “Brocks” posts and articles back in the day you would have thought he was much more involved. He definitely came across that way. At the time I thought him and Bill Roberts were responsible for half the Biotest product line.

The “Giants of Sports-Nutrition Research” article was interesting as it introduced us to a couple of the other Biotest research scientists and some new possible products. Any more product teasers, TC?

[quote]DSQ98 wrote:
TC wrote:
jdrannin1 wrote:
DSQ98 wrote:
A while back I remember reading a post by TC saying that that product never materialized. They couldn’t get it up to Biotest standards. I don’t believe the current Spikes related but don’t hold me to that. Also I know Brock Strasser was working on that product and I believe he jumped ship some time back.

Brock Strasser is Bruce Kneller. The guy busted for steroids and illegal possetion of firearms.

I think he was better with Biotest. Biotest’s old products kill Gaspari’s new ones.

TC mentioned him a while ago. I dont think in a very fond light either. lol

“Brock” never developed a single supplement for Biotest.

He would just read a few research papers and then try to kitchen-sink a “supplement” together with little rhyme or reason.

Wow! By reading “Brocks” posts and articles back in the day you would have thought he was much more involved. He definitely came across that way. At the time I thought him and Bill Roberts were responsible for half the Biotest product line.

The “Giants of Sports-Nutrition Research” article was interesting as it introduced us to a couple of the other Biotest research scientists and some new possible products. Any more product teasers, TC?
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Bill Roberts was, and still is, a valuable member of our R & D team.

More product teasers? Let’s just say we’re working on a number of things, many of which will be released this year.

Yeah, I know that’s vague, but it’s the best I can do right now.

[quote]TC wrote:
More product teasers? Let’s just say we’re working on a number of things, many of which will be released this year.

Yeah, I know that’s vague, but it’s the best I can do right now.

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Wow, that’s almost the closest thing we’ve gotten to a date. And even that has still made me excited.

Excuse me, I have to find a replacement Fanboy knob so I can turn it to 1. Maybe 2.

No one mentioned Z-12? I usually like booze primarily because it relaxes me and thus improves my mood. Z-12 gets rid of my anxiety and can even give me a sense of euphoria. So lately I’ve been using it as an alternative to imbibing.

I’m also interested in a product called U4EA. This month I could only afford one, so I went with more Z-12, but I’m going to run a comparison next month.

[quote]wfifer wrote:
No one mentioned Z-12? I usually like booze primarily because it relaxes me and thus improves my mood. Z-12 gets rid of my anxiety and can even give me a sense of euphoria. So lately I’ve been using it as an alternative to imbibing.

I’m also interested in a product called U4EA. This month I could only afford one, so I went with more Z-12, but I’m going to run a comparison next month.

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Post when you get the results, will ya? I’ll be getting my order tomorrow and I’ll have some Z-12 in there, so we’ll see how it does.

Wow, never mind. Apparently the active ingredient in U4EA, 2-aminoethane sulfonic acid, is in fact plain old taurine. There’s also glycine and some GABA derivative. They claim that special formulations of taurine can be effective at a low dosage, but taurine itself requires anywhere from 5 to 60g to do the trick. I’ve never taken more than 5g, personally. So I’ll try more and see what happens.

[quote]TC wrote:
DSQ98 wrote:
TC wrote:
jdrannin1 wrote:
DSQ98 wrote:
A while back I remember reading a post by TC saying that that product never materialized. They couldn’t get it up to Biotest standards. I don’t believe the current Spikes related but don’t hold me to that. Also I know Brock Strasser was working on that product and I believe he jumped ship some time back.

Brock Strasser is Bruce Kneller. The guy busted for steroids and illegal possetion of firearms.

I think he was better with Biotest. Biotest’s old products kill Gaspari’s new ones.

TC mentioned him a while ago. I dont think in a very fond light either. lol

“Brock” never developed a single supplement for Biotest.

He would just read a few research papers and then try to kitchen-sink a “supplement” together with little rhyme or reason.

Wow! By reading “Brocks” posts and articles back in the day you would have thought he was much more involved. He definitely came across that way. At the time I thought him and Bill Roberts were responsible for half the Biotest product line.

The “Giants of Sports-Nutrition Research” article was interesting as it introduced us to a couple of the other Biotest research scientists and some new possible products. Any more product teasers, TC?

Bill Roberts was, and still is, a valuable member of our R & D team.

More product teasers? Let’s just say we’re working on a number of things, many of which will be released this year.

Yeah, I know that’s vague, but it’s the best I can do right now.

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Boy, that is vague! At least we have some new supplements to look forward to this year. I know a lot of people bitch about the supplement plugs on this site but I for one enjoy reading up on new and innovative products. And ultimately you decide if you want to purchase it in the end. Nothing has to be purchased in order to be a member of this site.

I follow a process before I purchase any supplement regularly. 1. Read up on a new supplement 2. Evaluate it’s purpose and compare to my current goals 3. Purchase supplement 4. Evaluate effectiveness

I’m looking forward to whatever’s in the works!

So I just took about 10g of taurine sublingually. Wow. I feel really intensely focused and really strung out at the same time. I feel very calm and content. It’s pretty cool.

i reckon it’d be cool if could get fitted hats and/or beanies with the T-Nation symbol…just an idea but anyways i cant wait too see whats next, hopefully its stuff thats legal in australia