They will still probably get killed by the worse Republicans.
And how long did the vaccines take under Trump’s Warp Speed when compared to previous vaccines?
So where is all your faith in the dynamic private sector to come up with a solution?
No. These fuels aren’t “coming”. The space shuttle used lox/lh2 for decades already. Hypergolic mixtures are currently used to launch geosynchronous satellites. Lox/etoh has been in use since ww2. All icbms and anti-satellite missiles use hypergolic combinations of hydrazine derivatives and nitric acid. All solid rocket boosters use ammonium perchlorate or ammonium nitrate, inorganic compounds.
At this point we are waiting for renewables and nuclear to proliferate (pun intended) through the supply chain. The actual rocketry part is already figured out.
C’mon bros! I’m trying real hard to be funny.
Don’t call me bro, buddy.
We’ve made breakthroughs in Fusion as recently as yesterday!
I’m not sure the world is ready for whale farms.
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I’d like a really small whale, like a tea cup chihuahua version that Castoli can keep in his purse.
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Seems a tad bit capitalist for him.
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Are you saying that oil is not used build any of the parts that produce 90% of that electricity where you live?
He doesnt realize it, but he’s like an apex capitalist.
Using a base capital to take advantage of the fluctuations in currency values for profit is like the fentanyl version of capitalism.
All of this stuff he keeps blathering about is just his own rationalization to convince himself that he isnt hurting anybody.
Castoli needs a whale purse to go with his baby seal fur coat.
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Initially, I was rejecting the foolish claim that only oil based propellants are viable. But then he made the claim that it’ll take 50 years to develop a production system that won’t use oil for any part of the process. I’m rejecting that claim as pure idiocy, oil will be obsolete long before then.
With respect to renewable electricity generation, as more renewables are produced, more renewable electricity will be used to produce new components. I’m expecting full separation from the oil economy within decades, necessarily since wells run out lol. There is also an undeniable push by the private sector towards onshoring operations, adopting sustainable inputs, and cutting ties with autocratic governments (which hold most of the oil reserves). Even the saudi state run oil firm is investing in renewables, they know that oil is on the way out
May i ask where you live?
So most of this thread I think is kinda dumb, and so I’ve only been sorta following it. That being said.
Was this ever actually claimed? It maybe was, IDK. I didn’t see it, but as I said, only really skimming.
So there is a difference perhaps in what is possible and what is likely to occur. I do think there will be some components that are oil based in 50 years. There are things that are used that just work, and switching it to something else just for it to not be oil based seems like something that isn’t a goal right now. Things like o-rings that have been verified to work in the way they currently are used will probably be there a long time. It just doesn’t make any sense to change it.
If I had to make a bet on the claim “no oil will be used to produce and launch a rocket (one that could launch a satelite into space) in 50 years”, I’d would bet that there still will be oil products used.
Man, you got me all figured out.
I completely disagree with this unless some radical new tech is found power source wise.
This is also bullshit. Wells have been found to be replenishing themselves. The idea that oil is from biocarbon’s falling into the crust is laughable. Research from the last decade found that hydrocarbons are synthesized abiotically. Oil is not running out anytime soon and there is PLENTY.
I would bet we are much much further than 50 years from doing away with oil in any meaningful way.
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Green energy has been politically pushed for well over 2 decades. The electric utility that I worked for 41 years has been making business decisions to reduce its carbon footprint for those 2 decades. They recently closed a coal fired generating station. Most of the power (about 1,600 MW) that is generated locally is natural gas powered. There are still two 300 MW petcoke powered turbines.
They bought a 15 MW solar plant. But the capacity factor of solar is at best 25%. You do understand that when the sun sets the solar power generated is zero. And a thunderstorm puts a large notch is the power generation curve during daylight hours. They claim that they supply 15 MW of solar power to the grid. That is obviously misleading, but politically it sounds good.
Until we can store solar power America wide, the peak load claim is misleading. I don’t know how far into the future solar storage America wide is.
Why the greenies aren’t fully behind nuclear power is beyond my understanding.
The expansion of EV’s will require more power generation capacity.
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Yes, the propellant thing was actually claimed (lol). I’m going to have to take the other side of that bet, respectfully, because in 50 years either there won’t be oil left to extract or it will all be under control of unfriendly regimes. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch chemicay to say that it will be fairly simple to transition plastics manufacturing to other carbonaceous starting materials.
I’m also a skimmer here, I only responded because something really dumb was said about rockets. I’ve got no interest in any of the other points.
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Nah, not interested in sharing.
Didnt think so…understood
This is where I stand too. No way oil is “obsolete” in 50 years. Diminished usage is possible if viable alternatives become cost effective.
On a similar note, last year I did a broad estimation of how much area of solar panels it would take to power just Orange County, CA (there power consumption per year is listed online) based on the average efficiency and outputs of 1 acre of solar panels in AZ (where sunlight is great). Turns out that an area larger than the US would need to be covered in solar panels just to power Orange County with today’s solar tech.
Solar energy is great for small scale implementation, but cannot meet current demand on the macro scale.
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There is enough oil and shale oil in the continental US to last us 100’s of years.
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