Obama's Hubris

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Arguing over semantics reminds is a bit Rumsfeldian.

When I mean marginalized, I don’t mean the absolute, but the decaying amount of consideration the rest of the world, specifically Russian and China, pays to our interest in their calculus. [/quote]

That’s to be expected in a nascent multipolar international system. Russia and China are simply pursuing great power politics.

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Arguing over semantics reminds is a bit Rumsfeldian.

When I mean marginalized, I don’t mean the absolute, but the decaying amount of consideration the rest of the world, specifically Russian and China, pays to our interest in their calculus. [/quote]

Do you actually have insight into their internal meetings and how their attitude towards the U.S. calculate into the specifics of those meetings?

Where is the graph depicting the plummeting morale with the U.S. Military? Thanks to our Sunni-in-Chief. Talk to some of our military, they will gladly tell you.

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Arguing over semantics reminds is a bit Rumsfeldian.

When I mean marginalized, I don’t mean the absolute, but the decaying amount of consideration the rest of the world, specifically Russian and China, pays to our interest in their calculus. [/quote]

Do you actually have insight into their internal meetings and how their attitude towards the U.S. calculate into the specifics of those meetings?[/quote]

Look at this latest Nicorette gum chewing fiasco. The Chinese propagandized it and put it out to their news media. You don’t need to be inside these meetings when you see what was decided.

This is an actively hostile measure meant to further humiliate and hurt the perception of America as a world leader.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Arguing over semantics reminds is a bit Rumsfeldian.

When I mean marginalized, I don’t mean the absolute, but the decaying amount of consideration the rest of the world, specifically Russian and China, pays to our interest in their calculus. [/quote]

That’s to be expected in a nascent multipolar international system. Russia and China are simply pursuing great power politics.[/quote]

Of course it is, but that’s because as you’re so fond of saying each player in the IR stage is only concerned with the national interests of their country.

On the other thand, your biggest competitors should always, ALWAYS, be intimidated by you psychologically and (preferably at least) militarily. But certainly feel outmatched and intimidated, just not desperately so to the point they do something drastic.

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Arguing over semantics reminds is a bit Rumsfeldian.

When I mean marginalized, I don’t mean the absolute, but the decaying amount of consideration the rest of the world, specifically Russian and China, pays to our interest in their calculus. [/quote]

Do you actually have insight into their internal meetings and how their attitude towards the U.S. calculate into the specifics of those meetings?[/quote]

Look at this latest Nicorette gum chewing fiasco. The Chinese propagandized it and put it out to their news media. You don’t need to be inside these meetings when you see what was decided.

This is an actively hostile measure meant to further humiliate and hurt the perception of America as a world leader. [/quote]

And this administration is complicit in it. It’s “unfair” to have a lone superpower.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Arguing over semantics reminds is a bit Rumsfeldian.

When I mean marginalized, I don’t mean the absolute, but the decaying amount of consideration the rest of the world, specifically Russian and China, pays to our interest in their calculus. [/quote]

Do you actually have insight into their internal meetings and how their attitude towards the U.S. calculate into the specifics of those meetings?[/quote]

Look at this latest Nicorette gum chewing fiasco. The Chinese propagandized it and put it out to their news media. You don’t need to be inside these meetings when you see what was decided.

This is an actively hostile measure meant to further humiliate and hurt the perception of America as a world leader. [/quote]

And this administration is complicit in it. It’s “unfair” to have a lone superpower.
[/quote]

I’d love for you to produce evidence of that. Unipolarity is exceededly rare, and when it does occur, it is not unsustainable.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Where is the graph depicting the plummeting morale with the U.S. Military? Thanks to our Sunni-in-Chief. Talk to some of our military, they will gladly tell you. [/quote]

I work with a couple of retired military intelligence officers that would argue that the 13 years of unbroken war which have cost te United States 6714 lives, many more wounded, and $4-6 trillion has an exponentially greater impact on morale than whatever straws your grasping at.

Obama was handed a poisoned chalice. The Bush/republican admin were the real villains and warmongers. The USA is now seen as (dare I say it) evil and a bullying, self serving nation. Nobody could have repaired the damage bush caused

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Anybody on PWI with a background in Psychology?[/quote]

I do. Why?[/quote]

Can you give an analysis of Obama’s personality?

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Where is the graph depicting the plummeting morale with the U.S. Military? Thanks to our Sunni-in-Chief. Talk to some of our military, they will gladly tell you. [/quote]

I work with a couple of retired military intelligence officers that would argue that the 13 years of unbroken war which have cost te United States 6714 lives, many more wounded, and $4-6 trillion has an exponentially greater impact on morale than whatever straws your grasping at.[/quote]

But have you ever served? Get to know our NCOs.

[quote]ThaSpider79 wrote:
Obama was handed a poisoned chalice. The Bush/republican admin were the real villains and warmongers. The USA is now seen as (dare I say it) evil and a bullying, self serving nation. Nobody could have repaired the damage bush caused[/quote]

Nice! It’s all on Bush after all.

/sweet jeebus a 3 post MSNBC’r

You gotta be a euro

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Anybody on PWI with a background in Psychology?[/quote]

I do. Why?[/quote]

Can you give an analysis of Obama’s personality?[/quote]

Sex Machine already did.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
But have you ever served? Get to know our NCOs. [/quote]

Have you?

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
But have you ever served? Get to know our NCOs. [/quote]

Have you?[/quote]

Of course. Where do you think I get my opinion? Along with 90% of the guys I know.

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Anybody on PWI with a background in Psychology?[/quote]

I do. Why?[/quote]

Can you give an analysis of Obama’s personality?[/quote]

Sex Machine already did.[/quote]

Do you think he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)?

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
having to “deal” with Iran.
[/quote]

Do you take issue with the P5+1 nuclear negotiations with Iran? If yes, why?[/quote]

There’s nothing to negotiate. [/quote]

Isn’t there? Iran wants crippling economic sanctions to be lifted. The P5+1 (and numerous other states) do not want Iran to become a nuclear weapons state. [/quote]

There is nothing to negotiate. They are not to have a nuclear weapon and it must be prevented either by diplomatic pressure, or force. Anything else is a stupid dangerous game.
Iran has nothing to offer in terms of negotiation. Any such perception is tacit permission for them to create a nuclear weapon which will compromise any possible peace in the middle east. No, I don’t expect omaba to get that. Netanyahu’s approach is the only correct one.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Anybody on PWI with a background in Psychology?[/quote]

I do. Why?[/quote]

Can you give an analysis of Obama’s personality?[/quote]

Sex Machine already did.[/quote]

Do you think he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)?
[/quote]

One cannot truly diagnose such a thing without proper testing. However, narcissism definitely plays a role in his hubris. When you talking disorder, your talking about a debilitating issue that usually plays a role in a person’s self destruction. Obama is definitely narcissistic and arrogant beyond belief.

I don’t think he is mentally disordered in a technical sense. I think really, simply, he is an asshole, determined to chart his own course despite the moratorium placed on his policies through out the last two congressional elections.

From a psychological perspective, what I found most interesting is his ‘hearing’ of the 2/3’s of people who did not vote. It tells me that he’s hedging his bets that those who did not vote was some sort of symbolic support of his path forward. He has no intention of giving an inch. He will not work with the new congress, he will buck them at every moment and blame them for not getting anything done.
He’s gambling. He truly believes that most people agree with him, perhaps they just don’t know it yet.

If the republicans play this smart, they can make an ass of him. If they try to focus on shit he will never sign, like repealing obamacare, they will fail. If they nip at it, and ‘correct’ minor things and force his hand on things he claimed publicly to agree with, they can make a fool of him. They should tread carefully and get things done that undermines him without him being aware of it, and take the whitehouse in 16 if they play their cards right. We’ll see how smart they are soon.

That’s a good take on him Pat. I especially like the 2/3s perspective.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
That’s a good take on him Pat. I especially like the 2/3s perspective. [/quote]

If memory serves me, Pat doesn’t hold a doctorate in psychology, and I’m unsure if he has a bachelor’s degree in the field for that matter. The psychological analysis of statesmen is no easy task. Even if he had advanced training in psychiatry, which he doesn’t, that alone would still be insufficient for the complex and daunting requirements of the task. As evidenced by the CIA’s political psychology program launced in 1965, such a Herculean intellectual endeavor requires many highly qualified individuals working in close collaboration.