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[quote]SexMachine wroteZEB wrote:
Wow, there’s a lot of hate out there for the other guys candidate.
Out where? What’s that got to do with this thread?[/quote]
EVERYTHING. This thread is based on shear nonsense mixed with a good dose of hate.
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ZEB I like you more and more.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wroteZEB wrote:
Wow, there’s a lot of hate out there for the other guys candidate.
Out where? What’s that got to do with this thread?[/quote]
EVERYTHING. This thread is based on shear nonsense mixed with a good dose of hate.
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There are no birthers posting in this thread. There is no one who sees this as anything other than an interesting Constitutional question that will have no bearing on Obama’s second term whatsoever. And I just don’t see the ‘hate.’
But, I’ll let you off the hook by not asking you to explain any of that. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a politically expedient course for you to follow.[/quote]
Don’t flatter yourself, I’m not on the hook my friend. The fact that someone is attempting to make Obama look like an illegitimate President is based on hate for the man. You mean to tell me that there is no better way for these people to spend their time and money than to attempt to take Obama to court?
Nonsense, shear and utter nonsense!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
The fact that someone is attempting to make Obama look like an illegitimate President is based on hate for the man.
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I wasn’t aware that anyone in this thread had attempted to do so.
No. I mean to tell you that you are jumping to conclusions zeb. Read what I said, carefully again. Birthers are idiots. Anyone who thinks the “natural born” clause can harm Obama is an idiot. But that has nothing to do with this interesting Constitutional question.
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Nonsense, shear and utter nonsense![/quote]
Oh zeb you’re so clever! Just ask optheta and pittbull. 
EDIT: Do you know about Obama’s history of Communist/Marxist agitation, black racialism, involvement in widespread voter fraud, shakedowns, blackmail and vexatious litigation? Do you think I have I misrepresented the man or am I right?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
ZEB wrote:
The fact that someone is attempting to make Obama look like an illegitimate President is based on hate for the man.
I wasn’t aware that anyone in this thread had attempted to do so.[/quote]
Stop playing dumb – Look up at the title of the thread.
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Oh zeb you’re so clever! Just ask optheta and pittbull. [/quote]
I hope that I never get so partisan that I cannot take an objective look at a situation and give an honest answer.
I know of his association with various hate groups. One only has to look at the type of Church that he attended for 20 years to know that the guy is a borderline racist. But you’ll never hear any of that from the main stream liberal media. And as a side note they will be out in full force to see that he’s reelected.
But…none of that disqualifies him to hold the office of President of the United States. And this thread is indeed as bad as the birther thread. People need to focus on the issues and forget about “Obama not being eligible” nonsense.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Stop playing dumb – Look up at the title of the thread.
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Fair point. I was talking about the people who had posted since the OP. I was also disputing the ‘hate’ part.
I disagree that Obama is ‘racist’ in the sense that Jeramiah Wright is racist. Obama is a product of Saul Alinsky. He attended a radical activist church and sunday school from a young age - First Unitarian Honolulu. It promoted draft dodging during the Vietnam War and so on. It was a product of Alinsky’s efforts to co-opt churches. Alinsky of course preached the co-option of the institutions he wished to destroy.
[T]he president is an Alinskyite, so steeped in the ideology of the seminal community organizer that he became a top instructor in Alsinkyite tactics for other up-and-coming radicals.
…Alinskyites are fifth-column radicals. They have, in substance, the same goals as open revolutionaries: overthrowing the existing free-market republic and replacing it with a radical’s utopia. That’s why Obama could befriend such unrepentant former terrorists as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, and take inspiration from Jeremiah Wright, a black-liberation theologist. But Alinskyites are more sophisticated, patient, and practical. They bore in, hollowing out the system from within, approating the appearance and argot of mainstream society. Their single, animating ambition is to overthrow the capitalist social order, which they claim to see as racist, corrupt, exploitative, imperialistic, etc. Apart from that goal, everything else - from the public opinion to Afghanistan - is negotiable: They reserve the right to take any position on any matter, to say anything at any time, based on the ebb and flow of popular opinion. That keeps them politically viable while they radically transform society. Transform it into what, they haven’t worked out in great detail - except that it will be perfect, communal, equal, and just. - Andrew C. McCarthy III, a former Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York. A Republican, he is most notable for leading the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others. The defendants were convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and planning a series of attacks against New York City landmarks. He also contributed to the prosecutions of terrorists who bombed US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He resigned from the Justice Department in 2003. He is currently a columnist for National Review.
'The Alinsky Model, words that are important to keep in mind whether you are viewing these extremists from an historical perspective or in connection with the radical goals they hope to achieve via the Obama presidency:
Guided by Alinsky principles, post-Communist radicals are not idealists but Machiavellians. Their focus is on means rather than ends, and therefore they are not bound by organizational orthodoxies in the way their admired Marxist forebears were. Within the framework of their revolutionary agenda, they are flexible and opportunistic and will say anything(and pretend to be anything) to get what they want, which is resources and power.’ - David Horowitz, who was a “red diaper baby” - a child of old left parents(Communist Party USA) - and a former member of Students for Democratic change - the Weatherman terrorist group was an offshoot of SDS on Obama
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But…none of that disqualifies him to hold the office of President of the United States. And this thread is indeed as bad as the birther thread. People need to focus on the issues and forget about “Obama not being eligible” nonsense.[/quote]
I agree that questioning Obama’s qualification to hold the presidency as a political means is a silly idea.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
But…none of that disqualifies him to hold the office of President of the United States. And this thread is indeed as bad as the birther thread. People need to focus on the issues and forget about “Obama not being eligible” nonsense.
I agree that questioning Obama’s qualification to hold the presidency as a political means is a silly idea.[/quote]
Thank you.