[quote]tedro wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I’m still waiting for how Kerry was a traitor. Why don’t you throw that one out there first huh tough guy?
Since Bill must have missed this one, I’ll bite for you.
http://www.federationofstates.com/articals/sjkpt.htm
Count One: TREASON. - While still in the United States Naval Reserve, Lt. John F. Kerry did, in Paris, France, without authorization from the President or the State Department, undergo private negotiations with the enemy, a foreign government, North Vietnam and the Viet Cong thus giving, aid and comfort to the enemy in 1970 while active combat operations were in progress in violation of 18 USC 2381 - Treason and of the USCJ Section 904. Art. 104. Aiding the Enemy.
And the 14th Ammendment, clause 3:
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. [Emphasis mine]
Finally, given that he made an oath to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, I present article 3, section 3 of the Constitution, which defines treason:
Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.[Emphasis mine]
To summarize, in meeting and negotiating with representatives of the North Vietnam government without authorization, Kerry aided and comforted the enemy, which the U.S. constitution defines as treason. Committing treason is in direct contrast to the Oath he took upon serving the country in the military, and the constitution bars any person from serving as Senator who has previously broken an oath to uphold it.[/quote]
Thanks – I’d decided there was no value to FI’s posts and so don’t read them. But that was a point worth expanding on, since the media gave so little attention to this matter.
Now it’s arguable – as in the sense that it can be argued – that maybe that ought not to count. But also surely it’s arguable that it should.
My point is that the way our government works, people such as Kerry need have no fear of being held to account for such things. They’re “in” and the rest of the Senators, and the vast majority of the media, really and truly don’t care if by the intent of the Founding Fathers as written in the Constitution Kerry is ineligible. This is shown by the fact that there has never even been a hearing on it.
I expect that similarly there really and truly is no care among the vast majority of Congressmen, Senators, Supreme Court justices, other Federal judges, and the media as to whether Obama held or even exercised dual citizenship as an adult or even recently, or whether he was actually born in the US or not, etc. He is “in” in every sense of the word and need not fear such things, as personal opinion. He also need not fear the media or any judge giving him real grief over his having sealed all these records, thus making proof – of matters that the public should not be denied ordinary means to know – impossible.
Thus I don’t think that for practical purposes this is a big issue. He has a get-out-of-jail-free card on things such as this.