I do agree something like this is a slippery slope on one hand but on the other they’re just taking things back to yesteryear. Back in the day sizes like that didn’t exsist and we did just fine without em so I guess I really don’t care.
Besides, I personally have never drank a 32oz container of soda…I just never felt the need…but I can still see why people want freedom of choice.
I suspect SteelyD lets his kids sleep in pajamas that aren’t flame resistant.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I suspect SteelyD lets his kids sleep in pajamas that aren’t flame resistant. [/quote]
In a house fire, flames don’t generally kill people.
Am wih jevohvas and others on this
also interestingly the uk is getting bigger and bigger portions in its restaurants probably a correlation to its rapidly increasing obessity and diabetes crisis
I bet we can limit obesity by banning full sized donuts and only allowing donut holes.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I suspect SteelyD lets his kids sleep in pajamas that aren’t flame resistant. [/quote]
We don’t worry about it now that we moved the gas cans from under their bed to inside their closets.
[quote]Brooks123 wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I suspect SteelyD lets his kids sleep in pajamas that aren’t flame resistant. [/quote]
We don’t worry about it now that we moved the gas cans from under their bed to inside their closets.[/quote]
What a relief. 
Hey, I just realized that I started drinking Diet Dr. Pepper really heavily during the Giuliani years. Irish, you’re a New Yorker. Please interpret.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Brooks123 wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I suspect SteelyD lets his kids sleep in pajamas that aren’t flame resistant. [/quote]
We don’t worry about it now that we moved the gas cans from under their bed to inside their closets.[/quote]
What a relief.
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Well, we kept burning houses down and going through kids like crazy until the state banned “gas cans over 2 gallons”. Now we’re doing fine!!!
It’s already been said but I think the problem is what the law leads to. What’s stopping them from taxing butter next? Or banning it? There are countries with a saturated fat tax. And what’s to stop them from setting portion sizes for red meat? That would be an easy one to pass, just pull up any poorly designed red meat will kill you if you go near it study that seems to be published annually. I do think people need to stop drinking so much damn soda but it isn’t something that should be forced.
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[quote]caveman101 wrote:
don’t need to ban them, just put horrifically disgusting pictures of naked obese people on all the cups, labels and related advertising [/quote]
Hey, what if I want a 32 oz diet soda?[/quote]
why the fuck do you colonials measure liquids by weight?
I think it’s a good start. Yes if people want to drink 32oz of soda they will just get 2 16 oz cans to compensate but I’m sure there are those who only need 16oz but end up drinking more simply because they paid for 32 oz and the soda is already in their hands so why not.
Definitely not the best solution but it’s a start, portion control does matter and anyone will notice if they travel outside places such as the U.S and the U.K where obesity isn’t as popular. I’ve been to Eastern Europe and South America and the portions there, on average, compared to the ones here in America, are much smaller, and guess what? the people seem to be smaller too.
I hope no one thinks that Steely D or myself or others that think laws like this are inane don’t also know that too much sugar and of course soda pop is not optimal for your health.
That’s why Steely D is making the “argument to absurdity” to make his point (though not using nuclear weapons in there…I think Rajraj might have better off suing hand grenades in that example)
Y’see…the idea that anything that becomes legislated will then becomes fact is wrong.
The whole reason we have laws against murder is not that the legal system actually expects it to deter murders, it’s because we of course need a system of rules in place so we can have punishments in place so that each instance of a crime is treated equally.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I hope no one thinks that Steely D or myself or others that think laws like this are inane don’t also know that too much sugar and of course soda pop is not optimal for your health.
That’s why Steely D is making the “argument to absurdity” to make his point (though not using nuclear weapons in there…I think Rajraj might have better off suing hand grenades in that example)
Y’see…the idea that anything that becomes legislated will then becomes fact is wrong.
The whole reason we have laws against murder is not that the legal system actually expects it to deter murders, it’s because we of course need a system of rules in place so we can have punishments in place so that each instance of a crime is treated equally.[/quote]
I actually think it’s ree-fucking-diculous to ban large size sodas to combat obesity. Ree.Fucking.Diculous.
But, you know what? It’s NYC. Let the retards do whatever the Hell they want. I’ll live in relative danger to myself, nanny-free, up here in the woods.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I actually think it’s ree-fucking-diculous to ban large size sodas to combat obesity. Ree.Fucking.Diculous.
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You know, I’m not completely certain this is wise either. I just think these slippery slope arguments are silly.
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[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Really? With half of NY’s adults overweight, and half the country set to be obese - not overweight, obese - by 2030, you guys don’t think any steps should be taken to stem that?[/quote]
It won’t work anyway. Fine, they ban that size drink - so people will just buy two smaller ones and get the same amount anyway! Honestly, the idea that the government could possibly control what people eat is a ridiculous notion.
This is just a stupid stunt by the mayor to look like he’s “combating obesity”. It’s an empty gesture that accomplishes nothing. [/quote]
Ban soda.
Eat donuts.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=8685040
June 1, 2012 (NEW YORK) – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg isn’t against all sugary treats.
He recently issued a proclamation declaring Friday as NYC Donut Day, honoring an annual tradition launched 75 years ago to honor women who served the treats to soldiers. City Hall officials emphasized the proclamation doesn’t represent Health Department policy.[/quote]
What a jackass.
Ooh! had another idea for an alternative:
Let them drink 32oz coke, but make the cups bowl shaped - really shallow and wide.
Lets see the fatties drink from that!
What worries me about things like this is that the people (government, medical boards, etc) that propose measures like this almost universally define obesity by BMI. Any body who is even a fairly successful builder or lifter, when judged solely by height v weight (BMI) would likely come up obese.
If measures like this result in lets say. . . higher insurance premiums for higher BMI's or higher food taxes for "unhealthy" foods (which would likely include beef,pork,eggs. . .hamburgers,BACON), a large number of people who enjoy this lifestyle (weightlifting, bodybuilding) would be unfairly affected.