NFL 2012 Part 2

Dude do you think its possible that Phillip Rivers finds his way to NY after this season?

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Totally agree both of our teams are a bunch of paper fucking tigers…I think Im stuck with my blowhard coach for another year though. I think you can finally get rid of yours

Forget what I said about firing Garrett. I don’t think we need to blow this team up either. O-line def needs addressed this off-season no matter what our record ends up. Only o-line player safe for me is left tackle Smith. Safety position needs addressed on the d-side of the ball. If we can get a badass running back or reciever take them. But, Garrett is the right man for the job, I hope hope he can just start to get fired up. I thought red heads were supposed to freak the fuck out sometimes…maybe he will finally just snap and it will start to click. I just feel that we need ‘something’ to make it all finally click, then it is on like donkey kong with this team. Cowboys fan for life! Even though sometimes it is really hard to be.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]

Dude, I think obviously he gets a lot of attention because he is the quarterback for America’s Team, but I think people underestimate how good he really is. There I said it, Tony Romo is underrated.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]
Sorry but this shows a real lack of football knowledge. I’m on my iPad or I would type out a lot more.

He has NO running game and almost again brought his team back to a win. Romo and Garret are far from the problem, Pat explained it perfectly. I love football but I could not build a fucking Super Bowl team.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]
Sorry but this shows a real lack of football knowledge. I’m on my iPad or I would type out a lot more.

He has NO running game and almost again brought his team back to a win. Romo and Garret are far from the problem, Pat explained it perfectly. I love football but I could not build a fucking Super Bowl team. [/quote]

almost brought his team back to a win against a horrible pass D LOL… I get it, I would take Romo over many QBs in the leaque, but he is not going to win Dallas any SBs :wink:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Dude, I think obviously he gets a lot of attention because he is the quarterback for America’s Team, but I think people underestimate how good he really is. There I said it, Tony Romo is underrated.[/quote]

This.

The Jerry Jones criticism is obv warranted – I think it was DP’s radio show talking about how then-HC Jimmy Johnson made sure ALL personnel control was written into his contracts there – but talk of blowing that DAL squad up is incredibly naive.

Fact is, there’s at least ten teams out there for which QB-Romo would be a savior, nevermind a mere upgrade.

edit - decided to think thru and list em: KC, ARI, JAX, BUF, NYJ, MIN, MIA, CLE, OAK definitely and prob TEN, TB, SEA as well. (I’d prob wait-and-see on Locker but I’m sure I’ve seen enough with Freeman and Wilson. imo)

49ers vs. Saints tomorrow.

Should be fun. FUNNNN!

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
49ers vs. Saints tomorrow.

Should be fun. FUNNNN![/quote]

I added Kaepernick to my fantasy team and put him in the starting lineup over Eli Manning. I feel that good about this guy.

Whoever said that Alex Smith does not represent an upgrade over Sanchez is off their rocker though. He probably wouldn’t win any more games in NY than Sanchez, but he certainly wouldn’t look nearly as bad in the process.

Sanchez doesn’t do one thing really well at all. He’s not much of a runner, his arm strength and accuracy are both about average, he doesn’t appear to be a very smart, instinctive player in terms of reading defenses or being smart with the ball, his pocket presence is shaky at best (although his line being so bad doesn’t help things at all) and he’s never been considered a very mentally-tough player throughout his college and pro career. His performances in the playoff wins were good, but that was two and three seasons ago now and he’s clearly regressed since then, not improved, regardless of the fact that the overall talent level on offense is waning as well.

Smith isn’t a great QB by any means, but he DOES do some things really well that Sanchez does not. He reads defenses before the snap better, he has better command of the offense he plays in (which is much, much more complex than what Sanchez is running), he makes smart decisions for the most part and while he doesn’t run exceptionally well, he’s still light years ahead of Sanchez in that department. Harbaugh’s superior coaching has a lot to do with this as well, but Smith deserves credit for responding well to his coaching also.

That being said, Smith’s days as a starter in SF may be over, and quite frankly, I’m more than surprised at the way it has come about. I’m not surprised with Kaepernick’s play thus far. I’m surprised with how quickly Harbaugh seems to have opened the position up to competition as well as the circumstances under which he’s done so. The fact that is that you NEVER see a QB having as good a season as Smith potentially lose the starting job to a guy with so little experience, especially on a team with a record as good as SF’s.

Granted, Smith was injured and I’m not sure as I type this if he’s been officially medically-cleared yet. But every indication is that Kaepernick already has the starting position locked up for as long as he plays well, no matter how healthy Smith is now.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I hate my team…I knew they were bad, I knew they didn’t have the personnel to compete, but this was utterly embarrassing. You guys generally know I defend my team all the time sometimes to a fault. There is no defense to this. Ultimately this may be a blessing in disguise…clean fucking house and start over…again[/quote]

I’m in NY too… The Jets have sunk to a new low. Sanchez really never had what it takes to be a franchise QB. They pumped him up these past few years all for nothin’. They need to clean house, no other remedy for what’s been allowed to go on.

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I hate my team…I knew they were bad, I knew they didn’t have the personnel to compete, but this was utterly embarrassing. You guys generally know I defend my team all the time sometimes to a fault. There is no defense to this. Ultimately this may be a blessing in disguise…clean fucking house and start over…again[/quote]

I’m in NY too… The Jets have sunk to a new low. Sanchez really never had what it takes to be a franchise QB. They pumped him up these past few years all for nothin’. They need to clean house, no other remedy for what’s been allowed to go on. [/quote]

I think it’s a coaching problem, not a player problem.

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I hate my team…I knew they were bad, I knew they didn’t have the personnel to compete, but this was utterly embarrassing. You guys generally know I defend my team all the time sometimes to a fault. There is no defense to this. Ultimately this may be a blessing in disguise…clean fucking house and start over…again[/quote]

I’m in NY too… The Jets have sunk to a new low. Sanchez really never had what it takes to be a franchise QB. They pumped him up these past few years all for nothin’. They need to clean house, no other remedy for what’s been allowed to go on. [/quote]

I think it’s a coaching problem, not a player problem.[/quote]

Don’t forget management has a part to play in this.

I still want to see Tim Tebow start just for comical relief.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]
Sorry but this shows a real lack of football knowledge. I’m on my iPad or I would type out a lot more.

He has NO running game and almost again brought his team back to a win. Romo and Garret are far from the problem, Pat explained it perfectly. I love football but I could not build a fucking Super Bowl team. [/quote]

almost brought his team back to a win against a horrible pass D LOL… I get it, I would take Romo over many QBs in the leaque, but he is not going to win Dallas any SBs :wink:
[/quote]
No QB could win with this teams O line 4 new starters last week and again no running game. No he will not win SB with this team run like this. The media loves Romo cause he is an easy target like most QBs but people who know football know that Romo is not the problem.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]
Sorry but this shows a real lack of football knowledge. I’m on my iPad or I would type out a lot more.

He has NO running game and almost again brought his team back to a win. Romo and Garret are far from the problem, Pat explained it perfectly. I love football but I could not build a fucking Super Bowl team. [/quote]

almost brought his team back to a win against a horrible pass D LOL… I get it, I would take Romo over many QBs in the leaque, but he is not going to win Dallas any SBs :wink:
[/quote]
No QB could win with this teams O line 4 new starters last week and again no running game. No he will not win SB with this team run like this. The media loves Romo cause he is an easy target like most QBs but people who know football know that Romo is not the problem. [/quote]

He may not be the problem, but he ain’t the answer either :wink:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
My bad Pat, judging from last year I thought you were a Bronco fan, your actually a Falcon fan…[/quote]

Yes, I am. And believe me, I like the Jets just the way they are. But if you want a chance at winning another game you need to change shit up. Sanchez is the 31rst ranked QB, only Weeden is worse, who is a rookie. Putting an once of faith in that guy is begging for failure.
And their are plenty of losing lockerooms in the NFL, only the Jets are fighting with each other, and calling each other out in the media. LT said it was the worst in the NFL.

So keep everything exactly the same. It’s fine with me.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]
Sorry but this shows a real lack of football knowledge. I’m on my iPad or I would type out a lot more.

He has NO running game and almost again brought his team back to a win. Romo and Garret are far from the problem, Pat explained it perfectly. I love football but I could not build a fucking Super Bowl team. [/quote]

almost brought his team back to a win against a horrible pass D LOL… I get it, I would take Romo over many QBs in the leaque, but he is not going to win Dallas any SBs :wink:
[/quote]
No QB could win with this teams O line 4 new starters last week and again no running game. No he will not win SB with this team run like this. The media loves Romo cause he is an easy target like most QBs but people who know football know that Romo is not the problem. [/quote]

He may not be the problem, but he ain’t the answer either :wink:
[/quote]
Oh and who is? Very easy to sit back say heis not the answer, much harder to have a actual true recommendation. This is the NFL not fantasy football.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
My bad Pat, judging from last year I thought you were a Bronco fan, your actually a Falcon fan…[/quote]

Yes, I am. And believe me, I like the Jets just the way they are. But if you want a chance at winning another game you need to change shit up. Sanchez is the 31rst ranked QB, only Weeden is worse, who is a rookie. Putting an once of faith in that guy is begging for failure.
And their are plenty of losing lockerooms in the NFL, only the Jets are fighting with each other, and calling each other out in the media. LT said it was the worst in the NFL.

So keep everything exactly the same. It’s fine with me.[/quote]

I really dont understand what your talking about…obviously I want to change things up, I have repeatedly said we have the worst offense in the league. I repeatedly have stated our GM needs to be fired. You just harp on Sanchez, I am not willing to part with Sanchez UNLESS you have a clear cut better option. I will say it again and I will also say you dont know the Jets the way I do and I KNOW Sanchez is the least of their worries , they have nothing , Z E R O ability on offense, you could be JOHNNY FUCKING UNITAS and he wouldn’t win with this squad.

I think you should worry about your dirty birds and if they could win a fucking playoff game. When was the last time…ummm 2008? Worry about your own fucking team and their, and their Paltry post season showing. At least my shit team has won playoff games within the past 4 years

Me and Derek have to repeatedly defend our QBs and our teams who loves to see our teams lose…its amazing how people on here love to just shit on what the surface seems to be the problem, but we know its much deeper than that.

LETS GO BUCS! looks like Matty Ice…be melting.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Tony Romo has a very shitty offensive line. he still tries to make jedi plays and does sometimes. He is starting to take sacks a little better and take care of the ball a little better. Romo will win a superbowl in Dallas, mark my words. Yes, he has pissed me off sometimes, but Romo is the real deal, and is one of the elite qb’s in the league. To address we have never had a great Quaterback in Dallas. Aikman was deadly accurate, and a great leadre. Roger the Dodger was one of the greats all time. Dallas Cowboys…America’s Team! [/quote]

LOL, he has flashed of brilliance, but Romo sucks. If he was on any other team no one would care about him.[/quote]
Sorry but this shows a real lack of football knowledge. I’m on my iPad or I would type out a lot more.

He has NO running game and almost again brought his team back to a win. Romo and Garret are far from the problem, Pat explained it perfectly. I love football but I could not build a fucking Super Bowl team. [/quote]

almost brought his team back to a win against a horrible pass D LOL… I get it, I would take Romo over many QBs in the leaque, but he is not going to win Dallas any SBs :wink:
[/quote]
No QB could win with this teams O line 4 new starters last week and again no running game. No he will not win SB with this team run like this. The media loves Romo cause he is an easy target like most QBs but people who know football know that Romo is not the problem. [/quote]

He may not be the problem, but he ain’t the answer either :wink:
[/quote]
Oh and who is? Very easy to sit back say heis not the answer, much harder to have a actual true recommendation. This is the NFL not fantasy football.[/quote]

FUCKING X 20000…I love this get rid of him BS…whose your fucking replacement? Have a fucking plan before making changes just for changes sake…FTR Ill take Tony Romo on the Jets tomorrow

[quote]bond james bond wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I hate my team…I knew they were bad, I knew they didn’t have the personnel to compete, but this was utterly embarrassing. You guys generally know I defend my team all the time sometimes to a fault. There is no defense to this. Ultimately this may be a blessing in disguise…clean fucking house and start over…again[/quote]

I’m in NY too… The Jets have sunk to a new low. Sanchez really never had what it takes to be a franchise QB. They pumped him up these past few years all for nothin’. They need to clean house, no other remedy for what’s been allowed to go on. [/quote]

I think it’s a coaching problem, not a player problem.[/quote]

Don’t forget management has a part to play in this.

I still want to see Tim Tebow start just for comical relief.
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agree except the teblow part…Tannenbaum is the main issue here horrible talent on this team and he is the purveyor of same.